Organized Muslim action burns 80+ cars in Sweden
N_Fiddledog @ Sat Aug 18, 2018 11:20 am
desertdude desertdude:
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Don't bother me with the facts, my mind is already made up
FIFY
What facts?
You discovered some facts did you, DD? That would be a first. Please share.
BartSimpson @ Mon Aug 20, 2018 8:14 am
desertdude desertdude:
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Don't bother me with the facts, my mind is already made up
FIFY
Feel free to provide me with any proof you have that these attacks were not carried out by Muslims.
Myself, I can easily determine that these WERE Muslim attacks because:
1. They took place in Muslim dominated neighborhoods.
2. If they were NOT carried out by Muslims then the Muslims who dominate these neighborhoods would be out protesting the 'hate crimes' that were carried out.
3. There are no such protests going on. Therefore the Muslims who live in these areas know that it was other Muslims who carried out the attacks.
DrCaleb @ Mon Aug 20, 2018 9:17 am
All that depends on #1 being true, and I showed you earlier that it's not.
https://www.thelocal.se/20170621/no-go- ... rable-aeas
desertdude @ Mon Aug 20, 2018 9:32 am
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Feel free to provide me with any proof you have that these attacks were not carried out by Muslims.
Errr...nope, burden of proof clearly lies with you, since your are the one making these claims, despite no evidence and proof. All you have is hearsay and your own assumptions.
And plenty and facts and figures to the contrary has been provided by Doc here already.
I know you really want it to be true just like you wanted the Fredericton shooter to be a brown Muslim guy because that furthers you bias and bigotry, went on for 5 pages about it and the instant it was found out to be a white non muslim shooter you and your ilk dropped the thread like a hot potato.
Tricks @ Mon Aug 20, 2018 9:46 am
desertdude desertdude:
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Feel free to provide me with any proof you have that these attacks were not carried out by Muslims.
Errr...nope, burden of proof clearly lies with you, since your are the one making these claims, despite no evidence and proof. All you have is hearsay and your own assumptions.
And plenty and facts and figures to the contrary has been provided by Doc here already.
I know you really want it to be true just like you wanted the Fredericton shooter to be a brown Muslim guy because that furthers you bias and bigotry, went on for 5 pages about it and the instant it was found out to be a white non muslim shooter you and your ilk dropped the thread like a hot potato.
Except the couple who still tried to claim he could be a convert.
Vbeacher @ Mon Aug 20, 2018 9:47 am
But... but... diversity is our strength! If you question any element of diversity you're a racist and a bigot and a xenophobe! Our prime minister has said as much, and all party leaders, major media representatives and academics are in total agreement!
N_Fiddledog @ Mon Aug 20, 2018 10:29 am
desertdude desertdude:
And plenty and facts and figures to the contrary has been provided by Doc here already.
No, he didn't. He provided some quibbles over terms. Is it a no-go zone if there are circumstances and selected areas of them or times of day where fire, police and ambulance can enter, they ask.
I would say yes, it can be when there are also over-lying pressures where they are not.
Media friendly to Swedish authority say police claim 'nothing to see here.' They're talking about what the police bureaucrats and government administrators say. But other media have police and other services on the street telling them there are no-go zones and using that term. Doc's Swedish bureaucrat friendly media tells us not to worry about Muslims. It's only gangs they say. But other media are calling them "Muslim Gangs."
These riots happen frequent enough to present patterns and the patterns say the riots happen out of what some media, police, ambulance and fire services on the street are calling 'no-go' zones. We've seen on video what happens when media such as the Australian version of 60 minutes enters these zones. They get attacked or pressured out by police.
So we can believe the media that are taking the word of a Swedish authority that has done things like hide rape statistics by Muslim demographic when they started revealing uncomfortable truths or we can believe media that actually goes into these no-go zones to try to talk to the people affected by them and gets chased out.
Tricks @ Mon Aug 20, 2018 10:47 am
Vbeacher Vbeacher:
But... but... diversity is our strength! If you question any element of diversity you're a racist and a bigot and a xenophobe! Our prime minister has said as much, and all party leaders, major media representatives and academics are in total agreement!
You should probably read the thread. There is no evidence it was muslims.
N_Fiddledog @ Mon Aug 20, 2018 11:18 am
Here, I'll give you some evidence.
Here's a little mini documentary showing the evolution of the no-go zone in Rinkerby.
It starts out showing how Rinkerby was designed as a kind of stepping stone for Sweden's blonde headed less fortunate. That's in the seventies. By the nineties a journalist is interviewing a visiting politician telling him 80% of the population is now immigrant. The immigrants we see range from Somalia to Bosnia. If you zip up to the 12 minute mark you'll see what's happening in Rinkerby current day. Not nice. But not too worry the local Muslims running the place will tell you what the real problem is. Racists, they say.
N_Fiddledog @ Mon Aug 20, 2018 11:24 am
But here's a local giving you a look at these latest "coordinated attacks" from multiple no-go zones. He'll show you some "facts" concerning who the perps were.
BartSimpson @ Mon Aug 20, 2018 11:37 am
desertdude desertdude:
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Feel free to provide me with any proof you have that these attacks were not carried out by Muslims.
Errr...nope, burden of proof clearly lies with you, since your are the one making these claims, despite no evidence and proof. All you have is hearsay and your own assumptions.
And plenty and facts and figures to the contrary has been provided by Doc here already.
I know you really want it to be true just like you wanted the Fredericton shooter to be a brown Muslim guy because that furthers you bias and bigotry, went on for 5 pages about it and the instant it was found out to be a white non muslim shooter you and your ilk dropped the thread like a hot potato.
There's been one arrest of a young man who was trying to escape to Turkey.
https://www.thelocal.se/20180815/more-c ... est-sweden
$1:
The man, who is in his 20s, travelled to Turkey on Tuesday but was stopped at the border.
"We found out that this person left for Turkey and then issued a 'no entry' to border police there who managed to seize him. Hopefully he is to return today and then Swedish police will take care of him," Dan Windt, head of the southern Gothenburg policing area, told Gothenburg newspaper GP.
"We found out that this person left for Turkey and then issued a 'no entry' to border police there who managed to seize him. Hopefully he is to return today and then Swedish police will take care of him," Dan Windt, head of the southern Gothenburg policing area, told Gothenburg newspaper GP.
Now tell me how rare it is to find a Muslim in Turkey.
N_Fiddledog @ Mon Aug 20, 2018 11:43 am
The current Swedish government and their media present a version of what's happening.
Apparently some you like to call this version "facts." Others are skeptical.
One looks at a Swedish neighbor like Denmark where they are being forced to face the truth:
$1:
Danish Prime Minister Lars Løkke Rasmussen has warned that his country may be seeing a rise of Muslim “parallel societies” and no-go zones and has promised to take steps against them.
The Danish prime minister said that the problem has become so prevalent in Denmark that he is considering state intervention in some areas. The move is unusual for Denmark which rarely ever sees the government interfere in the operation of schools or set specific rules for housing estates, Jyllands-Posten reports.
The move is doubly unusual for Europe, where the normal approach of establishment politicians is to deny the existence of no-go zones altogether. The comments by Løkke Rasmussen seem to suggest a radical break from his fellow Western European leaders in that regard.
“It’s a matter of being realistic about the situation,” Rasmussen said, “and there are areas where there is already a different set of rules. Where the gangs are in control and the police can not work. I can not sit and passively let it happen.”
“We have tried everything possible, but we just could not solve the problem,” Rasmussen said and called on the Danish parliament to “engage us in a different and more robust way”.
Rasmussen has called on three ministers in his cabinet to brainstorm ideas on how to better integrate Muslim pupils in schools or solve complex issues in housing estates to prevent the emergence of parallel societies. The ministers would then be given special authority to interfere in local areas once only under municipal authority.
The Danish prime minister said that the problem has become so prevalent in Denmark that he is considering state intervention in some areas. The move is unusual for Denmark which rarely ever sees the government interfere in the operation of schools or set specific rules for housing estates, Jyllands-Posten reports.
The move is doubly unusual for Europe, where the normal approach of establishment politicians is to deny the existence of no-go zones altogether. The comments by Løkke Rasmussen seem to suggest a radical break from his fellow Western European leaders in that regard.
“It’s a matter of being realistic about the situation,” Rasmussen said, “and there are areas where there is already a different set of rules. Where the gangs are in control and the police can not work. I can not sit and passively let it happen.”
“We have tried everything possible, but we just could not solve the problem,” Rasmussen said and called on the Danish parliament to “engage us in a different and more robust way”.
Rasmussen has called on three ministers in his cabinet to brainstorm ideas on how to better integrate Muslim pupils in schools or solve complex issues in housing estates to prevent the emergence of parallel societies. The ministers would then be given special authority to interfere in local areas once only under municipal authority.
https://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/0 ... s-denmark/
N_Fiddledog @ Mon Aug 20, 2018 11:45 am
Go ahead bash Breitbart but first show me why their claim below isn't a for real and actual "fact."
$1:
Danish Prime Minister Lars Løkke Rasmussen has warned that his country may be seeing a rise of Muslim “parallel societies” and no-go zones and has promised to take steps against them.
N_Fiddledog @ Mon Aug 20, 2018 11:49 am
Here's a quote from the above concerning the no-go zone of Rinkerby:
"The majority are Muslims from East Africa and they don't assimilate well into the Swedish culture or Swedish society..."
Also did you notice the close-ups of what "Swedish youths" of the car-burning-riots sort actually look like?
CharlesAnthony @ Mon Aug 20, 2018 4:40 pm
N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:
Go ahead bash Breitbart but first show me why their claim below isn't a for real and actual "fact."
To hell with facts. $1:
Danish Prime Minister Lars Løkke Rasmussen has warned that his country may be seeing a rise of Muslim “parallel societies” and no-go zones and has promised to take steps against them.
Ask the Prime Minister the obvious: "Who the hell is in control of the country????"