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ShepherdsDog @ Sun Jun 19, 2005 6:06 pm

China's sole desire/obsession is to establish itself as the sole superpower in Asia. It continues to develop its offensive and defensive capabilities and maintains a belligerent attitude. It now has an effective ballistic sub launched nuclear vehicle.



http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/ ... 2003259858

   



GreatBriton @ Tue Jun 21, 2005 10:46 am

Wanted: Bulls in the China Shop

By Azhar Javed

'Catch me if you can” are the words fit for China because it is on a long march to capture the world economic markets and develop resources as part of Beijing’s ‘go forth’ policy to ride the globalisation bandwagon. China is emerging as an economic superpower within a decade.
Meanwhile, the world looks at the phenomenon of ‘Made in China’ with awe and ponders over its repercussions the moment the WTO comes into effect.

China is the largest exporter of photocopiers, micro ovens, CD players, which is the 70 per cent of total exports of these products in the world. It exports 50 per cent digital cameras and 20 per cent computers and computer related accessories.

China is also major exporter of meat, cotton, peanut, canola, fruit, iron, coal, cement, fertilizer, cloths, television, toys, auto parts, crockery, stationery, shoes, firecrackers and many other unaccountable goods.
The 1.3 billion population has become an asset for China as the wage advantage and big domestic consumption are attracting investors and manufacturers, specially for multi-national companies to set up their main plants offices, industrial units there or relocate from other parts of the world. By reforming economic policy, China has become the world’s cheapest manufacturing country, which has attracted a substantial foreign direct investments (FDIs).

The World Bank has predicted at least 9.2 per cent growth for China this year (2004), up from 9.1 per cent in last fiscal year 2003.

Chinese organisations are moving up the ladder as their country’s membership of the WTO guarantees them access to world markets. From toys to computer chips, everything is being exported to the rest of the world these days.

China’s economy accounts for about 12 per cent of world output, double its input a decade ago.

Figures released by the Commerce Ministry of China showed that in the first 10 months of this year, China has attracted $53.8 billion in FDIs, up 23.47 per cent year-on-year.

It is amazing to note that three decades ago, China was among the world’s poorest countries with 80 per cent of the population having incomes less than $1 per day. Only one-third of adults were able to read or write. By 2000, China had become one of the fastest economically growing countries in the world with real per capita growth close to 9 per cent per annum between 1980-2000.

Consequently, China’s per capita income doubled every ten years, faster than almost any other country in the world.

China now exports over $500 billion a year and is committed to continue opening up and active participation in economic globalisation.

A study by investment bank Goldman-Sachs predicts China will overtake Germany in economic output by 2008, Japan by 2015 and the United States by 2040. If the Chinese kept up with the pace of growth, they are bound to overtake Britain and France to become the world’s fourth biggest exporter country before the end of 2005. Whereas World Bank admitted that China has already become fourth largest exporter country of the world.

The multinational firms/factories has rushed to China for boost up of their businesses and more profits owing to the cheap labour. The latest is Ford, which announced plan to set up new $1.5billion plant there.

USA the largest exporter of the world has also worried about the growth and development of the China in all fields. In fact, China has captured the US market through floating the goods on cheaper rates.

European countries are facing the challenges of the China products. According to European Union’s executive commission annual “competitiveness report”, EU warns that China is turning itself into a low-cost competitor in high-skill industries”.

The lesson for companies in the West are that they must pour funds into research and development, continually adapts, if they are to fend off the seemingly unstoppable rise of China.

China is the 25-nation EU’s second largest trading partner after the United States. But much of that trade is one-way. From a surplus in 1995 with the EU’s older 15 members, the bloc now has a massive deficit with China of more than 10 billion Euros (13 billion dollars).

The electronics sector in Hungary has notably lost jobs to China, which has poured investment into cutting-edge sectors such as production of dynamic random access memory chips to leapfrog past eastern European rivals.
Whereas Chinese exports of information-technology (IT) goods to the EU-15 countries rose by about 25 per cent over 1996-2002, they soared by more than 50 per cent to the 10 new members over the same period.

China looks set to entrench its dominance in the rag trade when global import quotas are lifted from January, leading to EU warnings that it will safeguard its textiles industry to prevent a flood of Chinese imports.
But the textiles trade provides a case in point for how the EU can respond to the growing might of China, the European Commission report said.

No doubt, time has proved in the past that China remained a true and loyal friend of Pakistan. The economically growth of China is not threatening at all. It does not believe in hegemony or expansionism.

According to a Chinese official who released the latest China-Pakistan trade figures, China is ready and anxious to help Pakistan to boost its exports to China but the Pakistani businessmen have to take the lead and develop contacts with Chinese businessmen. They have been too slow in doing real things except visiting Beijing at times.
These businessmen are only doing business of importing commodities in containers from China whereas they should try to get transfer of technology to set up huge industrial zones in the country.

Unfortunately, the traders and industrialist classes still perceive China as ‘the workshop of the world’. Not much has so far been done to conduct serious research on the country as a potential market for Pakistan’s exports.
Fierce competition, rising costs of production, law and order situation and political uncertainty has put most manufacturers at the end of their wits. All they seek is safe exit from the field.

Some manufacturers, in sectors other than textile, have already shifted their major interests from industry to trade. Instead of planning additional investment, most are more occupied in preserving their already invested money. In such an environment there is little hope that private sector could take a lead to take the trouble and bear the cost of assessing the depth and breadth of the Chinese market for Pakistani industrial or agricultural products.

Pakistan’s exports have been going down day by day while the imports of China from all over the world increased. The latest figures released in Beijing show while Pakistan exported goods worth $561 million to China in 2000, its exports dropped to $537 million in 2002.
In the same two-year period Pakistan’s imports from China jumped from $796 million in 2001 to $1.2 billion in 2002. The prospects of imports from China would expand steadily as the Chinese products are cheaper and their quality is improving steadily. China is making headway in the electronic sphere and moving towards high tech manufactures, which it can sell at very low prices in Pakistan.

Chinese imports are now worth $230 billion and it has a $30 billion trade surplus. And it is not that only the advanced countries can export plenty to China. The US has, undoubtedly, a large trade deficit with China; simultaneously countries like Malaysia, Thailand and South Korea have large trade surplus with China. And if Pakistan goes about it the right way it can export far more to China.

China has so far just been perceived and projected as a country that is willing to assist Pakistan in development of metallurgy in public sector. For the private sector, it is a country that has potential to export both finished products and raw material at affordable prices in abundance.

“We have no interest in destroying any industry in Pakistan. We export on demand. Pakistani traders visit China, they place orders and get their consignments on terms and conditions agreed between trading partners”, contends Mr. Zuo, Vice Counsel, Economic and Commercial Office of the Chinese Consulate. China, he argues, as a policy encourages exports and even gives 15 per cent rebate to producers.

A clear-headed and optimistic paradigm shift can turn the “Chinese threat” into the “Chinese opportunity”. It is upto the business community of our country to plan out their WTO regime strategy wisely.


According to economists Goldman Sachs, China will overtake the US as the world's largest economy within the next few decades. By 2050, it will be signifcantly larger than the US.

World's largest economies in 2050 according to Goldman Sachs.

(US$bn)

1. China - 50000
2. US - 35000
3. India - 27000
4. Japan - 6000
5. Brazil - 5100
6. Russia - 5000
7. Britain - 4100
8. Germany - 3900
9. France - 3700
10. Italy - 3000


http://nation.com.pk/daily/dec-2004/6/bnews1.php

   



Zipperfish @ Tue Jun 21, 2005 4:41 pm

I don't think that the US will allow China to threaten it economcially. They will take military measures to prevent this. The sabre rattling will begin in earnest soon (this year). I imagine it'll be similar to a Col War scenario where coutries will state their allegiance and conflicts will be resolved on a proxy basis in regional theatres.

   



Tman1 @ Tue Jun 21, 2005 11:09 pm

GreatBriton GreatBriton:
Wanted: Bulls in the China Shop

By Azhar Javed

'Catch me if you can” are the words fit for China because it is on a long march to capture the world economic markets and develop resources as part of Beijing’s ‘go forth’ policy to ride the globalisation bandwagon. China is emerging as an economic superpower within a decade.
Meanwhile, the world looks at the phenomenon of ‘Made in China’ with awe and ponders over its repercussions the moment the WTO comes into effect.

China is the largest exporter of photocopiers, micro ovens, CD players, which is the 70 per cent of total exports of these products in the world. It exports 50 per cent digital cameras and 20 per cent computers and computer related accessories.

China is also major exporter of meat, cotton, peanut, canola, fruit, iron, coal, cement, fertilizer, cloths, television, toys, auto parts, crockery, stationery, shoes, firecrackers and many other unaccountable goods.
The 1.3 billion population has become an asset for China as the wage advantage and big domestic consumption are attracting investors and manufacturers, specially for multi-national companies to set up their main plants offices, industrial units there or relocate from other parts of the world. By reforming economic policy, China has become the world’s cheapest manufacturing country, which has attracted a substantial foreign direct investments (FDIs).

The World Bank has predicted at least 9.2 per cent growth for China this year (2004), up from 9.1 per cent in last fiscal year 2003.

Chinese organisations are moving up the ladder as their country’s membership of the WTO guarantees them access to world markets. From toys to computer chips, everything is being exported to the rest of the world these days.

China’s economy accounts for about 12 per cent of world output, double its input a decade ago.

Figures released by the Commerce Ministry of China showed that in the first 10 months of this year, China has attracted $53.8 billion in FDIs, up 23.47 per cent year-on-year.

It is amazing to note that three decades ago, China was among the world’s poorest countries with 80 per cent of the population having incomes less than $1 per day. Only one-third of adults were able to read or write. By 2000, China had become one of the fastest economically growing countries in the world with real per capita growth close to 9 per cent per annum between 1980-2000.

Consequently, China’s per capita income doubled every ten years, faster than almost any other country in the world.

China now exports over $500 billion a year and is committed to continue opening up and active participation in economic globalisation.

A study by investment bank Goldman-Sachs predicts China will overtake Germany in economic output by 2008, Japan by 2015 and the United States by 2040. If the Chinese kept up with the pace of growth, they are bound to overtake Britain and France to become the world’s fourth biggest exporter country before the end of 2005. Whereas World Bank admitted that China has already become fourth largest exporter country of the world.

The multinational firms/factories has rushed to China for boost up of their businesses and more profits owing to the cheap labour. The latest is Ford, which announced plan to set up new $1.5billion plant there.

USA the largest exporter of the world has also worried about the growth and development of the China in all fields. In fact, China has captured the US market through floating the goods on cheaper rates.

European countries are facing the challenges of the China products. According to European Union’s executive commission annual “competitiveness report”, EU warns that China is turning itself into a low-cost competitor in high-skill industries”.

The lesson for companies in the West are that they must pour funds into research and development, continually adapts, if they are to fend off the seemingly unstoppable rise of China.

China is the 25-nation EU’s second largest trading partner after the United States. But much of that trade is one-way. From a surplus in 1995 with the EU’s older 15 members, the bloc now has a massive deficit with China of more than 10 billion Euros (13 billion dollars).

The electronics sector in Hungary has notably lost jobs to China, which has poured investment into cutting-edge sectors such as production of dynamic random access memory chips to leapfrog past eastern European rivals.
Whereas Chinese exports of information-technology (IT) goods to the EU-15 countries rose by about 25 per cent over 1996-2002, they soared by more than 50 per cent to the 10 new members over the same period.

China looks set to entrench its dominance in the rag trade when global import quotas are lifted from January, leading to EU warnings that it will safeguard its textiles industry to prevent a flood of Chinese imports.
But the textiles trade provides a case in point for how the EU can respond to the growing might of China, the European Commission report said.

No doubt, time has proved in the past that China remained a true and loyal friend of Pakistan. The economically growth of China is not threatening at all. It does not believe in hegemony or expansionism.

According to a Chinese official who released the latest China-Pakistan trade figures, China is ready and anxious to help Pakistan to boost its exports to China but the Pakistani businessmen have to take the lead and develop contacts with Chinese businessmen. They have been too slow in doing real things except visiting Beijing at times.
These businessmen are only doing business of importing commodities in containers from China whereas they should try to get transfer of technology to set up huge industrial zones in the country.

Unfortunately, the traders and industrialist classes still perceive China as ‘the workshop of the world’. Not much has so far been done to conduct serious research on the country as a potential market for Pakistan’s exports.
Fierce competition, rising costs of production, law and order situation and political uncertainty has put most manufacturers at the end of their wits. All they seek is safe exit from the field.

Some manufacturers, in sectors other than textile, have already shifted their major interests from industry to trade. Instead of planning additional investment, most are more occupied in preserving their already invested money. In such an environment there is little hope that private sector could take a lead to take the trouble and bear the cost of assessing the depth and breadth of the Chinese market for Pakistani industrial or agricultural products.

Pakistan’s exports have been going down day by day while the imports of China from all over the world increased. The latest figures released in Beijing show while Pakistan exported goods worth $561 million to China in 2000, its exports dropped to $537 million in 2002.
In the same two-year period Pakistan’s imports from China jumped from $796 million in 2001 to $1.2 billion in 2002. The prospects of imports from China would expand steadily as the Chinese products are cheaper and their quality is improving steadily. China is making headway in the electronic sphere and moving towards high tech manufactures, which it can sell at very low prices in Pakistan.

Chinese imports are now worth $230 billion and it has a $30 billion trade surplus. And it is not that only the advanced countries can export plenty to China. The US has, undoubtedly, a large trade deficit with China; simultaneously countries like Malaysia, Thailand and South Korea have large trade surplus with China. And if Pakistan goes about it the right way it can export far more to China.

China has so far just been perceived and projected as a country that is willing to assist Pakistan in development of metallurgy in public sector. For the private sector, it is a country that has potential to export both finished products and raw material at affordable prices in abundance.

“We have no interest in destroying any industry in Pakistan. We export on demand. Pakistani traders visit China, they place orders and get their consignments on terms and conditions agreed between trading partners”, contends Mr. Zuo, Vice Counsel, Economic and Commercial Office of the Chinese Consulate. China, he argues, as a policy encourages exports and even gives 15 per cent rebate to producers.

A clear-headed and optimistic paradigm shift can turn the “Chinese threat” into the “Chinese opportunity”. It is upto the business community of our country to plan out their WTO regime strategy wisely.


According to economists Goldman Sachs, China will overtake the US as the world's largest economy within the next few decades. By 2050, it will be signifcantly larger than the US.

World's largest economies in 2050 according to Goldman Sachs.

(US$bn)

1. China - 50000
2. US - 35000
3. India - 27000
4. Japan - 6000
5. Brazil - 5100
6. Russia - 5000
7. Britain - 4100
8. Germany - 3900
9. France - 3700
10. Italy - 3000


http://nation.com.pk/daily/dec-2004/6/bnews1.php



Riiiiight, Im sure Italy, France, and oh of course the almighty Russia will just Ziiiiip on by racking in the dough. What BS. All threes economies are in shambles whereas Canadas can easily take over 3000 by 2050.

   



dgthe3 @ Wed Jun 22, 2005 1:53 pm

Can anyone tell me about any major exports that were designed in China by Chinese and built by Chinese? China is an exporter of goods that were designed somewhere else. Although that works well for everyone at the moment, there is a slight catch: what happens when it becomes more expensive to build things like microwaves in China? The US, Japan, and Europe will find other places to make such items for them. At that point the bubble will burst, so to speak. The countries that design those things will make slightly less profit, but China will rapidly lose money.

Also

$1:
Figures released by the Commerce Ministry of China showed that in the first 10 months of this year, China has attracted $53.8 billion in FDIs, up 23.47 per cent year-on-year

Never trust economic figures from Communist states. The USSR more or less went broke because the reports were saying that they were doing fine but in reality there were esentially in a depression. It was done in part because the superiors wanted to hear that things were going well an in part because of politics. Because of that, I have a sneaking suspicion that China may not be doing as well as it appears.

In any event, i agree that there will continue to be cold war style conflicts between the US and China because regardless of the fact that China gets a lot of their money from the US, they still get money. With money the can buy weapons and governments. I think that Tiawan (sp?) will become prettty central to the conflict, as will the middle east of course

   



CanukdownUnder @ Sun Jun 26, 2005 5:03 pm

With a PRC standing army of 350 million personnel, saber rattling will be just that. The US can't afford to take any military actions against China. Trade talks and embargoes will be more likely, but since China and India have become trading partners, they have already emerged as a economic power by shear numbers alone with a consumer base of 3 billion people.

The big question is what happens when 3 billion people want the same standard of living as the US, who has less people but uses more in fossil fuels and electricity?

   



Constantinople @ Sun Jun 26, 2005 6:08 pm

I wouldn't exactly call China and India bosom buddies.

   



GreatBriton @ Tue Jul 12, 2005 12:25 pm

I found this. It doesn't actually have any connection with this thread, but it talks about France as a world power. The writer says that the 4 most powerful countries in the world at the moment are -

1) United States
2) Britain
3) Russia
4) France

So he obviously doesn't think that China is anywhere near the US, just yet, militarily.



By Harold C. Hutchison


France, as a military power, has been the butt of jokes since the controversy over the liberation of Iraq in 2003. But France is a major world power, with a professional military that has superb equipment, much of it indigenously-designed and produced. France spends about $45 billion a year on defense, about 2.6 percent of France’s GDP.

One of the biggest claims France has to major power status is its nuclear arsenal. Consisting of four SSBNs, three Le Triomphant class and the L’Inflexible, each of these carries sixteen M4/M45 missiles, which have a range of 5300 kilometers, and carrying six MIRVs packing a 150-kiloton nuclear warhead. France also has a force of 70 Mirage 2000N bombers carrying the ASMP cruise missile, with a range of 300 kilometers and packing a 300-kiloton warhead. Super Etendards flying from the Charles de Gaulle can also carry this missile.

The French Army is also a powerful force. This force consists of eight brigades, and is now all-volunteer. This has made is much more capable. Equipped with a mixture of LeClerc (240) and AMX-30 (780) tanks, 1050 AMX-10 IFVs, 3820 VAB APCs, and a mix of artillery (216 towed 155mm artillery pieces and 372 self-propelled artillery pieces). The French Army also operates 80 Tigre attack helicopters and 267 Gazelle attack helicopters. Since shifting to an all-volunteer force, the French army has become much better in terms of quality, backed by career non-commissioned officers. This force has carried out operations, mostly in Africa (4,400 in Cote d’Ivorie/Ivory Coast, 1,200 in Chad, and 200 in the Central African Republic), but also in Bosnia (500 troops), Afghanistan (1,800 troops), and Kosovo (3,000).

The French Navy is also a force to be reckoned with. It operates the only CVN outside the U.S. Navy, the Charles de Gaulle. It also has a force of 12 destroyers (two guided-missile destroyers of the Cassard class, a single Suffren-class destroyer, two Tourville-class destroyers, and seven Georges Leyuges-class destroyers), and fifteen frigates (five Lafayette-class and ten D’Estienne d’Orves-class frigates). In addition to the four SSBNs, France also operates six Amethyste-class SSNs. This navy is slightly behind the Royal Navy – the French have a carrier that operates the Rafale, which outperforms the British Sea Harrier, but the British have a larger submarine force and the Royal Navy arguably has the best personnel on a man-for-man basis.

The French Air Force is also one of the best in the world. Among its aircraft are the Mirage 2000, which comes in several variants: The Mirage 2000C, which is primarily an air-defense fighter; the Mirage 2000D, a ground-attack version capable of carrying a wide variety of bombs and missiles join with the Mirage 2000N, which is the backbone of the French Air Force’s nuclear deterrence arm. France also has the Rafale, a powerful multi-role fighter that has some stealth features. France is retiring the older Mirage F1 and Jaguar fighter-bombers, while the Mirage 2000Cs are being upgraded to the Mirage 2000-5, making them potent multi-role aircraft.

France also has the industrial infrastructure – many of its military designs are indigenous, and produced in France. While this can be expensive, it also means that France does not rely on anybody else’s designs. France has worked with other countries in the past (most
notably with England on the Jaguar). As a world power, France arguably ranks fourth at the present, behind the United States, the United Kingdom, and Russia due to its nuclear arsenal and professional military.

   



GreatBriton @ Tue Jul 12, 2005 12:29 pm

Tman1 Tman1:
GreatBriton GreatBriton:
Wanted: Bulls in the China Shop

By Azhar Javed

'Catch me if you can” are the words fit for China because it is on a long march to capture the world economic markets and develop resources as part of Beijing’s ‘go forth’ policy to ride the globalisation bandwagon. China is emerging as an economic superpower within a decade.
Meanwhile, the world looks at the phenomenon of ‘Made in China’ with awe and ponders over its repercussions the moment the WTO comes into effect.

China is the largest exporter of photocopiers, micro ovens, CD players, which is the 70 per cent of total exports of these products in the world. It exports 50 per cent digital cameras and 20 per cent computers and computer related accessories.

China is also major exporter of meat, cotton, peanut, canola, fruit, iron, coal, cement, fertilizer, cloths, television, toys, auto parts, crockery, stationery, shoes, firecrackers and many other unaccountable goods.
The 1.3 billion population has become an asset for China as the wage advantage and big domestic consumption are attracting investors and manufacturers, specially for multi-national companies to set up their main plants offices, industrial units there or relocate from other parts of the world. By reforming economic policy, China has become the world’s cheapest manufacturing country, which has attracted a substantial foreign direct investments (FDIs).

The World Bank has predicted at least 9.2 per cent growth for China this year (2004), up from 9.1 per cent in last fiscal year 2003.

Chinese organisations are moving up the ladder as their country’s membership of the WTO guarantees them access to world markets. From toys to computer chips, everything is being exported to the rest of the world these days.

China’s economy accounts for about 12 per cent of world output, double its input a decade ago.

Figures released by the Commerce Ministry of China showed that in the first 10 months of this year, China has attracted $53.8 billion in FDIs, up 23.47 per cent year-on-year.

It is amazing to note that three decades ago, China was among the world’s poorest countries with 80 per cent of the population having incomes less than $1 per day. Only one-third of adults were able to read or write. By 2000, China had become one of the fastest economically growing countries in the world with real per capita growth close to 9 per cent per annum between 1980-2000.

Consequently, China’s per capita income doubled every ten years, faster than almost any other country in the world.

China now exports over $500 billion a year and is committed to continue opening up and active participation in economic globalisation.

A study by investment bank Goldman-Sachs predicts China will overtake Germany in economic output by 2008, Japan by 2015 and the United States by 2040. If the Chinese kept up with the pace of growth, they are bound to overtake Britain and France to become the world’s fourth biggest exporter country before the end of 2005. Whereas World Bank admitted that China has already become fourth largest exporter country of the world.

The multinational firms/factories has rushed to China for boost up of their businesses and more profits owing to the cheap labour. The latest is Ford, which announced plan to set up new $1.5billion plant there.

USA the largest exporter of the world has also worried about the growth and development of the China in all fields. In fact, China has captured the US market through floating the goods on cheaper rates.

European countries are facing the challenges of the China products. According to European Union’s executive commission annual “competitiveness report”, EU warns that China is turning itself into a low-cost competitor in high-skill industries”.

The lesson for companies in the West are that they must pour funds into research and development, continually adapts, if they are to fend off the seemingly unstoppable rise of China.

China is the 25-nation EU’s second largest trading partner after the United States. But much of that trade is one-way. From a surplus in 1995 with the EU’s older 15 members, the bloc now has a massive deficit with China of more than 10 billion Euros (13 billion dollars).

The electronics sector in Hungary has notably lost jobs to China, which has poured investment into cutting-edge sectors such as production of dynamic random access memory chips to leapfrog past eastern European rivals.
Whereas Chinese exports of information-technology (IT) goods to the EU-15 countries rose by about 25 per cent over 1996-2002, they soared by more than 50 per cent to the 10 new members over the same period.

China looks set to entrench its dominance in the rag trade when global import quotas are lifted from January, leading to EU warnings that it will safeguard its textiles industry to prevent a flood of Chinese imports.
But the textiles trade provides a case in point for how the EU can respond to the growing might of China, the European Commission report said.

No doubt, time has proved in the past that China remained a true and loyal friend of Pakistan. The economically growth of China is not threatening at all. It does not believe in hegemony or expansionism.

According to a Chinese official who released the latest China-Pakistan trade figures, China is ready and anxious to help Pakistan to boost its exports to China but the Pakistani businessmen have to take the lead and develop contacts with Chinese businessmen. They have been too slow in doing real things except visiting Beijing at times.
These businessmen are only doing business of importing commodities in containers from China whereas they should try to get transfer of technology to set up huge industrial zones in the country.

Unfortunately, the traders and industrialist classes still perceive China as ‘the workshop of the world’. Not much has so far been done to conduct serious research on the country as a potential market for Pakistan’s exports.
Fierce competition, rising costs of production, law and order situation and political uncertainty has put most manufacturers at the end of their wits. All they seek is safe exit from the field.

Some manufacturers, in sectors other than textile, have already shifted their major interests from industry to trade. Instead of planning additional investment, most are more occupied in preserving their already invested money. In such an environment there is little hope that private sector could take a lead to take the trouble and bear the cost of assessing the depth and breadth of the Chinese market for Pakistani industrial or agricultural products.

Pakistan’s exports have been going down day by day while the imports of China from all over the world increased. The latest figures released in Beijing show while Pakistan exported goods worth $561 million to China in 2000, its exports dropped to $537 million in 2002.
In the same two-year period Pakistan’s imports from China jumped from $796 million in 2001 to $1.2 billion in 2002. The prospects of imports from China would expand steadily as the Chinese products are cheaper and their quality is improving steadily. China is making headway in the electronic sphere and moving towards high tech manufactures, which it can sell at very low prices in Pakistan.

Chinese imports are now worth $230 billion and it has a $30 billion trade surplus. And it is not that only the advanced countries can export plenty to China. The US has, undoubtedly, a large trade deficit with China; simultaneously countries like Malaysia, Thailand and South Korea have large trade surplus with China. And if Pakistan goes about it the right way it can export far more to China.

China has so far just been perceived and projected as a country that is willing to assist Pakistan in development of metallurgy in public sector. For the private sector, it is a country that has potential to export both finished products and raw material at affordable prices in abundance.

“We have no interest in destroying any industry in Pakistan. We export on demand. Pakistani traders visit China, they place orders and get their consignments on terms and conditions agreed between trading partners”, contends Mr. Zuo, Vice Counsel, Economic and Commercial Office of the Chinese Consulate. China, he argues, as a policy encourages exports and even gives 15 per cent rebate to producers.

A clear-headed and optimistic paradigm shift can turn the “Chinese threat” into the “Chinese opportunity”. It is upto the business community of our country to plan out their WTO regime strategy wisely.


According to economists Goldman Sachs, China will overtake the US as the world's largest economy within the next few decades. By 2050, it will be signifcantly larger than the US.

World's largest economies in 2050 according to Goldman Sachs.

(US$bn)

1. China - 50000
2. US - 35000
3. India - 27000
4. Japan - 6000
5. Brazil - 5100
6. Russia - 5000
7. Britain - 4100
8. Germany - 3900
9. France - 3700
10. Italy - 3000


http://nation.com.pk/daily/dec-2004/6/bnews1.php



Riiiiight, Im sure Italy, France, and oh of course the almighty Russia will just Ziiiiip on by racking in the dough. What BS. All threes economies are in shambles whereas Canadas can easily take over 3000 by 2050.


Maybe Canada could just about overtake Italy. Its population is projected to shrink from its current 57 million to just about 45 million by 2025. But Canada won't overtake the UK, Germany and France, two of them will have growing populations whilst Germany's will shrink but still be about 72 million.

   



CanadianLynx @ Fri Jul 15, 2005 3:01 pm

Russia loves China not Japan

   



Jaime_Souviens @ Fri Jul 15, 2005 4:40 pm

This theme again?

China isn't going to become a superpower.

It has a billion people living in a capitalist society with an in-name-only communist regime. How long does anyone think that can last without coming to a dramatic end?

Back in the 1980's, Japan was the 'Asian Tiger' and it was going to be the next superpower---until it's economy collapsed.

As for productivity, as the people there develop a taste for television and time wasters like a certain website I'm thinking of, their productivity will drop until they reach our standard of mediocrity.

They're producing now, but they're quickly going to become consumers as well.

   



DerbyX @ Fri Jul 15, 2005 5:01 pm

$1:
They're producing now, but they're quickly going to become consumers as well.


True. America's economy was a "producer" for much of the mid 20th century but is a "consumer" economy now right. Their population is what is making it an economic superpower much like india. The telling factor will be how their social evolution enfolds. If they evolve a westernized worker structure (EI, VAC, benefits, etc), then we will likely see us increasing our exports to them while decreasing our imports. If they remain like they are. able to pay workers $0.9/hr then they will always be able to out-export both our countries in manufactured goods. Our only saving grace will be their increased need for primary resources which Canada has in abundance.

   



Jaime_Souviens @ Fri Jul 15, 2005 5:24 pm

DerbyX DerbyX:
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They're producing now, but they're quickly going to become consumers as well.


True. America's economy was a "producer" for much of the mid 20th century but is a "consumer" economy now right. Their population is what is making it an economic superpower much like india. The telling factor will be how their social evolution enfolds. If they evolve a westernized worker structure (EI, VAC, benefits, etc), then we will likely see us increasing our exports to them while decreasing our imports. If they remain like they are. able to pay workers $0.9/hr then they will always be able to out-export both our countries in manufactured goods. Our only saving grace will be their increased need for primary resources which Canada has in abundance.



In other words: a middle class.

I think they will do it. It's already happening in the cities.

Something I alluded to above; I think in about 20 years, that middle class will begin to ask why it has no political say. When that happens, all bets are off.

Canada has Albertan oil, but doesn't China have at least some oil in the Uighur or in Manchuria?

   



DerbyX @ Fri Jul 15, 2005 5:28 pm

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Canada has Albertan oil, but doesn't China have at least some oil in the Uighur or in Manchuria?


Don't know. If they start to consume oil (or any energy) at western levels then they will need vast amounts.

   



Jaime_Souviens @ Fri Jul 15, 2005 5:33 pm

DerbyX DerbyX:
Don't know. If they start to consume oil (or any energy) at western levels then they will need vast amounts.


But they can build nuclear reactors all they want.

   



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