Saudi Arabia threatens Canada with a 9/11 attack
Vbeacher @ Tue Aug 07, 2018 6:33 pm
Fighter Fighter:
I hope you guys sort this out nicely. Saudis did a lot of reforms recently within the country...
Not so much. They let women drive. That's about it. Meanwhile they've been jailing womens rights activists.
$1:
Don't know how much media is free over there
None. And you can be imprisoned for life for saying something unflattering about the government on facebook. If you're lucky though, all you'll get is ten years and a thousand lashes.
Vbeacher @ Tue Aug 07, 2018 6:35 pm
Zipperfish Zipperfish:
It's not the PM buying oil, it's the market. And the market buys oil from Saudi Arabia and the market decides it doesn't want to build refineries here. Isn't it you conservative types always whinging that the government should stay out of the marketplace. But if it doesn't suit you, then all of a sudden the PM is spineless.
If the government stayed out of the markplace we'd have an oil pipeline running from Alberta to the refineries in Quebec and on the east coast, which would no longer need foreign oil.
BRAH @ Tue Aug 07, 2018 8:26 pm
llama66 llama66:
I feel like he'll skip the class and we'll be forced to learn the lesson.
We are learning the lesson, former Canadians who joined ISIS are more important than Canadians who have never broken the law.
CharlesAnthony CharlesAnthony:
BRAH BRAH:
Does Trudeau need a history lesson on Saudi Arabia?
No. He needs to worship the glowing orb and dance with swords. The lesson is for everybody else. The GeorgeWBullshit "official story" must be re-inforced.
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Jabberwalker @ Wed Aug 08, 2018 6:52 am
Vbeacher Vbeacher:
Zipperfish Zipperfish:
It's not the PM buying oil, it's the market. And the market buys oil from Saudi Arabia and the market decides it doesn't want to build refineries here. Isn't it you conservative types always whinging that the government should stay out of the marketplace. But if it doesn't suit you, then all of a sudden the PM is spineless.
If the government stayed out of the markplace we'd have an oil pipeline running from Alberta to the refineries in Quebec and on the east coast, which would no longer need foreign oil.
The Americans want our oil to flow straight south, not west-east and they are the ones who control our oil industry, not the Canadian government.
bootlegga @ Wed Aug 08, 2018 1:55 pm
Vbeacher Vbeacher:
bootlegga bootlegga:
I'd like to see some conversation about Energy East, but that's dead as a doornail, because there so many hippies down east who have been brainwashed into thinking bitumen is pure evil.
If by 'down east' you mean the Atlantic provinces, they had no problem with Energy East. Ontario was making some noises, although with the PCs in that won't be a problem. The real problem was Quebec and its virtue signaling, rabble rousing mayor (now ex-mayor). As soon as it looked like Quebec was opposed Trudeau deep sixed the project.
Sorry if I wasn't clear. When I said the hippies down east, I meant those in Ontario and Quebec, as I was aware that New Brunswick was supportive of Energy East.
Thanos @ Wed Aug 08, 2018 2:38 pm
I'd like to think that maybe this thing with the Saudis would shake our increasingly stupid country out of this politically correct and regionalist torpor it's been indulging in for far too long. But going by the way the governments in this country do practically everything it'll end up just as ridiculous as the procurement file for the Canadian military has become. Instead of replacing Saudi oil with Alberta oil I can easily see the eastern preference to be increasing the amount of Venezuelan or Nigerian oil they receive instead. Or even more oil from Trump's America instead of from western Canada. It keeps that green "conscience" clean and they can say "at least we didn't produce it ourselves!".
No matter what happens, how much the outside world changes, Canada is not going to react in the way we should. Not to break ourselves out of the clutches of foreigners and their schemes, or to build a new situation that will benefit the entire country. We'll either stay stuck in the mud of an obsolete situation, or do something so stupid and counter-productive that will has zero positives for any of us in either the short or long terms. It's just the way we are. We're an old country now in terms of years, one of the oldest polities in the democratic West, but we sure act like young brats far too often, mostly just to screw each other over regionally like it's some ridiculous tradition that absolutely has to be maintained or OMG! the country's finished. Denis Coderre might be gone from the scene now but the disgusting anti-western & anti-Canada attitude he had is still strong among too many others in the corridors of power to ever be dislodged from it's position of advantage.