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Senator says WMD's found in Iraq.

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BartSimpson @ Thu Jun 22, 2006 11:16 am

Thematic-Device Thematic-Device:
Johnny_Utah Johnny_Utah:
The News of WMD's being found is proof Iraq under Saddam did indeed have WMD's which made him a threat. Liberals and the MSM are silent on this because when the Iraq War is judged they will go down in history as being on the wrong side that claimed Iraq under Saddam never had WMD's and was never a threat.


Of course they had them, the point was that they weren't any good by the point we invaded, and we knew that, because... WE SOLD THEM.

$1:
Reading from unclassified portions of a document developed by the U.S. intelligence community, Santorum said, "Since 2003, coalition forces have recovered approximately 500 weapons munitions which contain degraded mustard or sarin nerve agent. Despite many efforts to locate and destroy Iraq's pre-Gulf War chemical munitions, filled and unfilled pre-Gulf War chemical munitions are assessed to still exist."


As in, no longer good anymore, no longer functional, not a concern.

In order for something to be a weapon of mass destruction it must first be able to cause destruction. Expired weapons can't do that.


You hope.

   



Thematic-Device @ Thu Jun 22, 2006 11:21 am

BartSimpson BartSimpson:
You hope.


The people who made the weapons know. It might still be dangerous, on the level that the stuff you spread on your lawn is dangerous, but its no longer an effective weapon.

   



ridenrain @ Thu Jun 22, 2006 11:25 am

I'm sure the people of Israel will sleep well, knowing that such an expert has passed judgment.

   



BartSimpson @ Thu Jun 22, 2006 11:39 am

Thematic-Device Thematic-Device:
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
You hope.


The people who made the weapons know. It might still be dangerous, on the level that the stuff you spread on your lawn is dangerous, but its no longer an effective weapon.


Your wonderful United Nations would seem to disagree with your expert assessment.

http://www.un.org/Depts/unmovic/documents/6mar.pdf

$1:
The Sulfur Mustard contained in artillery shells that had been stored for over 12 years, had been found by UNMOVIC to be still of high purity. It is possible that viable filled artillery shells and aerial bombs still remain in Iraq.



pwned. :lol:

   



Arrow @ Thu Jun 22, 2006 11:43 am

Johnny_Utah Johnny_Utah:
The News of WMD's being found is proof Iraq under Saddam did indeed have WMD's which made him a threat. Liberals and the MSM are silent on this because when the Iraq War is judged they will go down in history as being on the wrong side that claimed Iraq under Saddam never had WMD's and was never a threat..


So what about Fox News, eh? They silent because they don't want to look bad? Not like they weren't front-and-centre cheerleaders for the invasion. They should be pouncing on this like a hungry dog on a steak. Wonder why they haven't?

   



BartSimpson @ Thu Jun 22, 2006 12:24 pm

Arrow Arrow:
Johnny_Utah Johnny_Utah:
The News of WMD's being found is proof Iraq under Saddam did indeed have WMD's which made him a threat. Liberals and the MSM are silent on this because when the Iraq War is judged they will go down in history as being on the wrong side that claimed Iraq under Saddam never had WMD's and was never a threat..


So what about Fox News, eh? They silent because they don't want to look bad? Not like they weren't front-and-centre cheerleaders for the invasion. They should be pouncing on this like a hungry dog on a steak. Wonder why they haven't?


It's on Fox News right now.

http://www.foxnews.com/

That's two doofuses pwned! ROTFL

C'mon! Who's next? :lol:

   



BartSimpson @ Thu Jun 22, 2006 4:04 pm

What? Where did everyone run off to on this thread? No one wants to play now that I whacked you with the UN saying that the WMDs are still dangerous?

ROTFL

   



ridenrain @ Thu Jun 22, 2006 4:14 pm

Want me to put in the crickets sound?

   



Jaime_Souviens @ Thu Jun 22, 2006 4:26 pm

Sure, why not, there's enough poison gas around we can use it as insecticide on the crickets later.

   



DerbyX @ Thu Jun 22, 2006 5:20 pm

BartSimpson BartSimpson:
What? Where did everyone run off to on this thread? No one wants to play now that I whacked you with the UN saying that the WMDs are still dangerous?

ROTFL


Lets examine your position shall we.

You: State emphatically that aliens seeking to enter your country are wrong for illegally entering it and that US citizens who help them should be met with deadly force? In essence you deny the right of anyone to enter your country, however that is exactly what the US does time and again and they do it to countries like Iraq that were no threat to you.

You: State emphatically that the UN is a crock and the US has no obligation to listen to anything it says and want out, however you have no problem with that same UN making demands of other countries and using your military to enforce those same resolutions that you would never adhere to. In addition you only ever believe what the UN says when it supports what you think.

You: State emphatically that the US has the right to self defence by using first strike methods and would respond aggressively to any threats made by any country, however it is the US that is threatening countries without reason and when they seek to get weapons to defend themselves against the US you accuse them of inflaming the situation.

You: Have no problem with the US having the largest arsenal of WMDs in the world and no problem with the using them but if any other country does the same then they are wrong.

Just because the US is showing the world whatever weapons it had its CIA plant means nothing since you guys all justified the war even if they found nothing. In fact you justify it as attacking islam anyway despite the fact that Iraq under Saddam was one of the least fanatical islamic countries.

So far the US has been dead wrong about everything it has done in Iraq. This is no different.

   



Johnny_Utah @ Thu Jun 22, 2006 5:25 pm

BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Arrow Arrow:
Johnny_Utah Johnny_Utah:
The News of WMD's being found is proof Iraq under Saddam did indeed have WMD's which made him a threat. Liberals and the MSM are silent on this because when the Iraq War is judged they will go down in history as being on the wrong side that claimed Iraq under Saddam never had WMD's and was never a threat..


So what about Fox News, eh? They silent because they don't want to look bad? Not like they weren't front-and-centre cheerleaders for the invasion. They should be pouncing on this like a hungry dog on a steak. Wonder why they haven't?


It's on Fox News right now.

http://www.foxnews.com/

That's two doofuses pwned! ROTFL

C'mon! Who's next? :lol:

That was a nice Pwned! :lol:

   



Lord-Beaverbrook @ Thu Jun 22, 2006 5:39 pm

Don't you think that North Korea, China, India, Pakistan, Iran, Russia and North Korea should be larger concerns in terms of having weapons of mass destruction, as opposed to some worthless sarin and mustard gas. The angle that people who are pro-war could fetch the idea of forcing an idea on others, you know, the great democracy.

   



Arrow @ Fri Jun 23, 2006 5:05 am

BartSimpson BartSimpson:
pwned! ROTFL

C'mon! Who's next? :lol:


pwned. Nice! Owned maybe? (As much as them reporting on a press release is "news"). :roll:

So where's the wall-to-wall your "news" so richly deserves? Even that hot-bed of liberal thinking Freedominion is giving it a pass? Wonder why? :roll:

Even Fox is lying low on follow-up. You'd think this was IMPORTANT, MUST-READ NEWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :roll:

Get a life little boy. :lol:

   



Thematic-Device @ Fri Jun 23, 2006 5:28 am

BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Thematic-Device Thematic-Device:
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
You hope.


The people who made the weapons know. It might still be dangerous, on the level that the stuff you spread on your lawn is dangerous, but its no longer an effective weapon.


Your wonderful United Nations would seem to disagree with your expert assessment.

http://www.un.org/Depts/unmovic/documents/6mar.pdf

$1:
The Sulfur Mustard contained in artillery shells that had been stored for over 12 years, had been found by UNMOVIC to be still of high purity. It is possible that viable filled artillery shells and aerial bombs still remain in Iraq.



pwned. :lol:


... The UN, a while ago, found shells which hadn't degraded, and admitted that it was a possibility that weapons still existed.

We have not found viable artillery shells or aerial bombs, and have only found degraded ones (read: not high purity). So the UNs "possibility" has yet to prove to be an actuality.

   



BartSimpson @ Fri Jun 23, 2006 10:27 am

DerbyX DerbyX:
Lets examine your position shall we.

You: State emphatically that aliens seeking to enter your country are wrong for illegally entering it and that US citizens who help them should be met with deadly force? In essence you deny the right of anyone to enter your country, however that is exactly what the US does time and again and they do it to countries like Iraq that were no threat to you.


Derby, I'm disappointed that you've gone back to your old tactic of making shit up if you have nothing real to argue with. *Anyone* has the right to go to a US Embassy or Consulate and apply for a visa to enter the USA and anyone approved for such entry is just fine with me. I've never, ever said otherwise. And, yes, anyone entering the USA or Iraq in violation of law should be stopped and met with deadly force if necessary. The same goes for any criminals aiding and abetting such criminal acts.

Your second sentence in the subject paragraph borders on nonsense. The dominant clause and the subordinate clause are incoherent.

Put down the bong at least sixty minutes before typing from now on and I'm sure you'll be fine. That BC weed can be pretty strong stuff so I won't fault you too much here.

DerbyX DerbyX:
You: State emphatically that the UN is a crock and the US has no obligation to listen to anything it says and want out, however you have no problem with that same UN making demands of other countries and using your military to enforce those same resolutions that you would never adhere to. In addition you only ever believe what the UN says when it supports what you think.


I don't believe much of anything coming out of the UN and would be content to see it disbanded in favor of structures like NATO. It's just that folks like yourself put so much...faith...in the UN that I relish those occasions when I get to beat you over the head with information whose very source is the UN. It is people like you who refuse to question the UN that makes my referencing the UN (when convenient) so damned much fun! It's just so satisfying to hoist you and yours upon your own petard. :wink:

DerbyX DerbyX:
You: State emphatically that the US has the right to self defence by using first strike methods and would respond aggressively to any threats made by any country, however it is the US that is threatening countries without reason and when they seek to get weapons to defend themselves against the US you accuse them of inflaming the situation.


The USA has learned a few painful lessons over the years and one of those lessons is that when nations whose leaders publicly announce their willingness to obliterate American cities commence the effort to obtain the means to obliterate American cities it is best to kill them before they make good on their intent.

DerbyX DerbyX:
You: Have no problem with the US having the largest arsenal of WMDs in the world and no problem with the using them but if any other country does the same then they are wrong.


If Britain or even France nuked, say, Syria, after a Syrian sponsored NBC attack on Paris or London I'd be just peachy with it. So would my country.

But if Iran nukes Tel Aviv as they have expressed their desire to do then the mullahs might be well-advised to go put on their 45,000,000,000,000,000 SPF sunscreen because it will be getting rather hot in Tehran & Qom. And I'd be just peachy with that, too.

In the 1920's and 1930's the USA played ball with the leftist and pacifist disarmament crowd and we got our asses handed to us in the opening of WW2. We learned that it is far safer to be the most powerful country in the world and we will continue to work to maintain that as our status quo.

DerbyX DerbyX:
Just because the US is showing the world whatever weapons it had its CIA plant means nothing since you guys all justified the war even if they found nothing. In fact you justify it as attacking islam anyway despite the fact that Iraq under Saddam was one of the least fanatical islamic countries.

So far the US has been dead wrong about everything it has done in Iraq. This is no different.


Everything?

We can put Saddam back in charge if it'll make you feel better.

   



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