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PM Sir Wilfrid Laurier in response to Henry Cabot Lodge's suggestion that international arbitrators be brought in to settle the Alaska border dispute in 1899. Laurier's comment hinted that military force was on the table and resulted in both the Quebec City Conference of that same year and the posting of US troops in Alaska (at what would eventually become Fort Seward).

So, is the defence of Canada now a matter of international debate?

Will Canada go the way of 1938 Czechoslovakia and allow an international cabal to sign it out of existence?

I doubt it.

The USA will never ask the UN for permission to act in its national interest and Canada would be ill-advised to do the same.

Or you'll have to get used to foreign ships in Baffin Bay, won't you?

   

From what I can tell, in Washington, there's an awful lot of interest in this, but everything is being held in suspension until further documents are relaesed.

I think right now neither Republicans or Democrats are saying anything until more information comes forward. No one wants to jump the gun and say something that later looks really, really stupid.

   

You said that US citizens helping illegal immigrants by employing them or otherwise should be shot and you would be happy to preform that service. Blue_Nose then chastized you. Remember now?



The comparisson was between french vichy working with the nazis and Iraqi puppets doing the same with the US.



By that same token then US opinion doesn't matter either. Of course the fact that I work with an actual Iraqi who says that should mean a little bit as well as the millions living in a combat zone thanks to the US who want you to go.

If you are actually buying into some bushshit that its all the Iraqis that love the US and everybody else that doesn't then you are drifting far from the shores of sanity my friend.



Please, its been nothing but threats veiled behind a thin layer of diplomacy.



And if a bunch of muslims decide to blow-up a tower full of Americans because their city was bombed whats the difference?

In any case I think Israel has the capability to respond and if Iran did do something like that I would agree. You just think that only westerners have the right to respond in kind and that nothing the US has ever done to anyone deserves any kind of response in kind.



Which one of us actually talks to someone who has been there recently and has a far greater understanding then you or I ever could?



You have been completely fooled by your own biased and blind media. BTW, rebuilding the places you bombed back to the stone age doesn't quite count now does it?



No, they are busy in warehouses plotting terrorism for revenge.



No, I just learned that most if not all of the cold war was fueled by to countries acting like children and I don't buy into all your anti-commie nonsense because I've seen quite a bit of the same shit from capitalism. Remember that Wallmart is the epitome of capitalism and you despise them.



The poorest countries would be those living under the wars that conservatives start.

Look at the evil regimes of the last century and how many were conservative and how many were liberal? None were liberal and all were a form of conservatism.



Communism is just another form of conservatism.



Conservative? Far from it. They have adopted liberal attitudes towards social issues such as church, marriage, abortion, contraceptives, and child rearing. They have seen a rise in multiculturalism as they moved from a net emigration to a net migration state.

Hardly hallmark conservatism.



We were aiding ourselves in reality. A defeated Russia would have meant the Nazi's could focus all their attention on us.



Who cares.

"Yabba-dabba-doo"

Who said that?

   

FRED FLINTSTONE!! I WIN!!! What's my prize?

   

You get an all expense paid date with a forum member of your choice!

   

Can it be a relative of a forum member?

   

Sure, got anyone in mind?

You aren't by any chance saying you're the member whose "relative" you want to date are you?

   

ARTY'S MOM!!!!!!

   

Response of the day folks!

   

I'm just gonna wait for Arty to see this,

   

I don't believe the US should ask anyone permission to act in national self defence, nor should anyone else. However acting in its "national interest" can be construed very broadly and you aren't acting in your own self defence in Iraq and the interests you are acting in are at best wrong.

   

You need a laugh,go HERE for a good one.

   

I finally saw something on it today.

Apparently what happened was that the remaining shells which were not destroyed were lost among the inventories of conventional high explosive shells. Back in the 80s, when they were being made, it was thought best to not label the shells by content, or mark them in any way. The last few hundred rounds are so hopelessly scrambled into the old artillery stocks that the Iraqis couldn't easily find them, nor can anyone else.

"...in Iraq, unlike any other country that I'm familiar with that has chemical weapons, in general chemical rounds were unmarked. [.....] they were controlled by the Special Republican Guard, not dispersed to the general military.

And therefore, you didn't have to mark them, the theory was, because they were in the hands of the most trusted of the trusted. Well, unfortunately, they became scattered throughout that vast armory that was Iraq. And so in the late 1990s, and in the period after 2003, in general they have been found as onesies and twosies, and small numbers, scattered among conventional weapons.

This sometimes led to great tragedy. And I'll take you back to what I'm sure what I know members of this committee are familiar with but most Americans have forgotten. In late 1991 a group of U.S. military decided they'd come across a store of what they thought were high explosive Iraqi rounds in one of the many bunkers scattered throughout Iraq. They decided to render them harmless by exploding them. This was at a place called Kamisiyah. It turned out, and no one really knows how many, but there were a small number of sarin rounds in them."

-- Dr. David Kay, former US head weapons inspector

So there's the situation, the Iraqis seem to have destroyed all the WMDs they could find, but couldn't find all of the shells.

   

Doesnt sound like the payload that bushy was lookin for does it?

   

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