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Vanni_Fucci,

I was responding to your original article "Should Religious Extremism be Considered a Mental Disorder?"

And by that I indicated from where this Mental Disorder is coming.

   

How much of a choice is it when you are conditioned to believe that you will burn for all eternity if you do not follow that book verbatim?

   

Fundamentalism in any religion would qualify for this ignominious distinction...

Religious intolerance and hatred is practiced by fundamentalists from all religions...they have to...it's written write there in the scriptures...

...and even if it does specifically say in the Bible or Torah to go out and kill unbelievers, which it does by the way, God in one of his many Old Testament tantrums does a fine job of whiping out entire civilizations of unbelievers...and because God is perfect, and without sin, how could these people that believe in his good works possibly go wrong by killing a few Muslims or Hindus, or what have you?

So, killing unbelievers, or apostates, is not just a Muslim phenomenon, and I find your assertion to be rife with bigotry...

Exodus 22:20 "He that sacrificeth unto any god save unto the LORD only, he shall be utterly destroyed."

Or better yet, here's a site that will explain it all for you nicely Human...

http://www.thebricktestament.com/the_la ... 13-15.html

   

Vanni_Fucci,

I already said before that all the religious books have the hatred verses, but whom still doing it now, and not willing to stop it because their religion is the perfect religion of all humans?

ISLAM ALONE isn't it, or I am wrong? And if you believe I am wrong then can you provide the story and the link of who did it, and the date...?

Otherwise, you should consider refreshing your information, but certainly if you are Moslem then I understand why you are creating the mixology here...


Which religion Kills Apostates? Sorry if you feel bad about it, but it is ISLAM

   

I am of the unpopular opinion that all religious people are mentally ill to some degree- and that some are contagious. For many it's minor, like the psychological equivalent of a sunburn, or a light case of malnutrition, but for the fundies it's intellectually terminal. I don't forsee a cure until it's practical to take an uninfected population off-world, and away from the source.

I guess I'm in an oddly candid and undiplomatic mood because it's extremely late here, so please, no flames. It's not like I'm suggesting that 99.9...% of the world population be locked away, and I realize how strange and possibly arrogant it sounds to say that I among the few could be sane. I know I'm not entirely sane, I just don't have the particular disease called god.

   

Well put RS Kennan.

   

Actually I see that you are reasonable enough to realize the true facts of contagious hatred...

Some others just rant into it...

   

It's almost like we're living in a bunch of different countries. Where I've lived most of my life the Catholic/Protestant thing has been pretty big. They have their own parades and curse at each other, they waste millions of dollars of taxpayers' money by having duplicat school boards. They have their own brotherhoods of sacred water buffalos or whatever. It's a pretty hot thing.

Then there are those crazy fringy things like the Masonite Lodge and all those strange folks in similar groups.

   

I am not disagreeing with you, but it was always a matter of ill mentality competition instead of wholeness with the one creator; however when this type of competition is politicized it turns into a blind hatred.

Islam according to Islam is a “Di’ NN and Dun” YA” religion and life, and therefore you can’t be religious and Moslem unless you practice it in your life, which in reality is what all the religions seek to achieve in order to be coherent with their Godly belief, but there is one exception that making Islam dangerous and that is, Islam claims that it is the last, the final, and the only true religion that G_D can accept, and Islam’s teaching is as “Hanif” complete as not only by every word that have been said in the Koran, but also by every word and action the Prophet Mohamed practiced in his daily life, and all these facts are non negotiable [by them] non reform-able, and a taboo for anyone to discuss, or discard.

Moreover, even though there is a prohibition that grant the safety for the people of the book who live amongst the Moslems and around them in the world, deciding if those people of the book are really doing what their G_D is asking them to do is left to the assessment of Islam; therefore, even when the Koran indicate that if the people of the book are following the teaching of their scripture will inherit the heaven as much as Moslem do, Mohamed left the door open to Moslems to inflict the punishment of G_D here on earth if Islam see that those people of the book are not following their scripture, and by that they consider their authorized by G_D punishment is part of the hell punishment that is guaranteed to those people.

What we are left with is a road without exit.

   

That was gibberish.

   

Yup, that it was. Good call, Fig.

   

Yeah I know from where you are coming...

   

More gibberish for you this time...

Let me tell you this, my first of all necessity is to be a human with extreme desire for the call of life instead of death; therefore, all what I am calling for is an open stages of dialog without the parameters of religious or political taboos.

If anything this prove is that I am not contained either in my bag of skin or my selfishness as some other people always sound even when they pretend they are human and talk like one. Oh yes, you can imitate unselfishness, and you can go through all sorts of highly refined forms of selfishness, but you're still tied to the wheel of “becoming one” by the golden chains of your good deeds, as the obviously bad people are tied to it by the iron chains of their misbehaviours.

On the other hand, you my friend, you are your own captive through your personal dam that is called your Super Ego that is attached to your other self echoes that are summoned more by nationality and race than the truth, and to tell you the truth, there is no amount of effort will make you unselfish.

So as you see, from one perspective I can’t be stuck like you in one frame of mind behind the walls of hatred and selfishness, and at the same time I must flow because my humanity is unstoppable.

The way it appear up until now, is that instead of following the finger I am pointing at the essence of hatred, you are only sucking on it for comfort, and that is the only act you are doing here.

Keep on sucking...

   

You know Human, if you weren't so damn incoherent, I might think you actually have something profound to say...but probably not though...

...and as for Muslims killing apostates...I have found no news articles that would support your claim, other than Al-Zarqawi claiming to have killed some Iraqi police because they were "apostates"...I seriously doubt that had anything to do with religion though...

   

Vanni_Fucci,

It has nothing to do with religion? I more think if this is how you see the case, then you have nothing to do with commonsense either...

It is decreed in their holly book by their prophet...


In Iran, the ulama in the l950s mounted an unsuccessful campaign to persuade the government to pass legislation to suppress the Bahai, whom they regarded as apostates from Islam, and dismiss them from public office. In the aftermath of the Iranian revolution, the Bahai religion has been declared illegal, many have been imprisoned and executed, and their property has been seized. The Iranian government's insistence that the Bahai have been punished for political reasons has done little to silence its critics. In Pakistan and the Sudan, the imposition of Islamic law has resulted in the subjection of non-Muslims to the ban on alcohol and the suppression of sects that proclaim themselves Muslims. In Pakistan, the Ahmadiyya have been declared a non-Muslim minority, and in the Sudan, Mahmud Taha, leader of the Republican Brothers, was executed for apostasy.


Since you don't want to find it, then this is anther example:

http://www.abc.net.au/rn/talks/8.30/rel ... 892997.htm

   

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