Should Religious Extremism be Considered a Mental Disorder?
figfarmer @ Fri Dec 17, 2004 1:55 pm
When we say what you are posting is gibberish, we don't mean that we disagree; we mean that it just doesn't make sense to us, the words used and the way they are used. A lot of your posts look like they were run through a computer translator device that doesn't work properly.
human @ Fri Dec 17, 2004 2:11 pm
figfarmer,
$1:
When we say what you are posting is gibberish, we don't mean that we disagree; we mean that it just doesn't make sense to us, the words used and the way they are used. A lot of your posts look like they were run through a computer translator device that doesn't work properly.
Certainly, thinking in a language and writing in another is not the same as your experience goes, but I believe that I was clear most of the time; however, if any one has any difficulty understanding what I said maybe he should ask for explanation or try to help because that what I would've done.
humans never perfect, in one way or the other isn't it?
Vanni_Fucci @ Fri Dec 17, 2004 2:21 pm
Yes well...when Christianity was but 1400 years old, they did some awful shameful deeds as well...
The Bible, the Torah, and the Quran all promote the killing of apostates...and at different periods in history, they all did...but with the separation of church and state, the church no longer has the power to enforce that edict...
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/01624b.htm
$1:
Today the temporal penalties formerly inflicted on apostates and heretics cannot be enforced, and have fallen into abeyance. The spiritual penalties are the same as those which apply to heretics.
So, it seems that the Catholic Church is a little bitter that the law won't allow them to kill their apostates...too bad for them...
human @ Fri Dec 17, 2004 5:05 pm
Vanni_Fucci,
$1:
Yes well...when Christianity was but 1400 years old, they did some awful shameful deeds as well...
The Bible, the Torah, and the Quran all promote the killing of apostates...and at different periods in history, they all did...but with the separation of church and state, the church no longer has the power to enforce that edict...
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/01624b.htm
So, it seems that the Catholic Church is a little bitter that the law won't allow them to kill their apostates...too bad for them...
The Bible, the Torah, and the Quran all promote the killing of apostates...and at different periods in history, they all did...but with the separation of church and state, the church no longer has the power to enforce that edict...
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/01624b.htm
$1:
Today the temporal penalties formerly inflicted on apostates and heretics cannot be enforced, and have fallen into abeyance. The spiritual penalties are the same as those which apply to heretics.
So, it seems that the Catholic Church is a little bitter that the law won't allow them to kill their apostates...too bad for them...
Actualy it has to do only with Islam, here the proof...
http://www.canadaka.net/modules.php?nam ... pic&t=4043
figfarmer @ Fri Dec 17, 2004 5:39 pm
But you see; that is what we are doing. When we say it is gibberish we want you to explain.
"I am not disagreeing with you, but it was always a matter of ill mentality competition instead of wholeness with the one creator; however when this type of competition is politicized it turns into a blind hatred." means nothing, for instance.
human @ Fri Dec 17, 2004 5:49 pm
figfarmer,
$1:
But you see; that is what we are doing. When we say it is gibberish we want you to explain.
"I am not disagreeing with you, but it was always a matter of ill mentality competition instead of wholeness with the one creator; however when this type of competition is politicized it turns into a blind hatred." means nothing, for instance.
"I am not disagreeing with you, but it was always a matter of ill mentality competition instead of wholeness with the one creator; however when this type of competition is politicized it turns into a blind hatred." means nothing, for instance.
What do you think of this blind hatred, I assure I have nothing to do with it.
http://www.canadaka.net/modules.php?nam ... pic&t=4043
figfarmer @ Fri Dec 17, 2004 5:57 pm
Equal time should be given to the Crusades, the Spanish Inquisition, the Salem witch trials, and I haven't time to mention all of the atrocities to be perpetrated in the name of Christ. I don't want to think about the ones being wreaked in Palestine in the name of Judaism, etc. etc.
human @ Fri Dec 17, 2004 6:12 pm
figfarmer,
$1:
Equal time should be given to the Crusades, the Spanish Inquisition, the Salem witch trials, and I haven't time to mention all of the atrocities to be perpetrated in the name of Christ. I don't want to think about the ones being wreaked in Palestine in the name of Judaism, etc. etc.
You can think what ever you wish, no one is holding your thinking, but I am talking only about what is going on today that is veiled with the rhetoric of the idiot apologists that they see what others not doing now is as equal as what they did back then.
While I see that what Islam doing today has its roots in their history, and most importantly in their holly books...
Now if Jews and Christians which you are right that they all have hatred in their books and past action will do what they were doing then, today, and you think I will not expose them and say even much worse than what I am saying, then you are wrong.
mcpuck @ Fri Dec 31, 2004 9:37 pm
human human:
In Iran, the ulama in the l950s mounted an unsuccessful campaign to persuade the government to pass legislation to suppress the Bahai, whom they regarded as apostates from Islam, and dismiss them from public office. In the aftermath of the Iranian revolution, the Bahai religion has been declared illegal, many have been imprisoned and executed, and their property has been seized. The Iranian government's insistence that the Bahai have been punished for political reasons has done little to silence its critics. In Pakistan and the Sudan, the imposition of Islamic law has resulted in the subjection of non-Muslims to the ban on alcohol and the suppression of sects that proclaim themselves Muslims. In Pakistan, the Ahmadiyya have been declared a non-Muslim minority, and in the Sudan, Mahmud Taha, leader of the Republican Brothers, was executed for apostasy.
Since you don't want to find it, then this is anther example:
http://www.abc.net.au/rn/talks/8.30/rel ... 892997.htm
Since you don't want to find it, then this is anther example:
http://www.abc.net.au/rn/talks/8.30/rel ... 892997.htm
Where was the rest of the world when Pakistan invaded Bangledesh?
Can a people of a country such as Iran be so bad with an organization like this: http://www.rcs.ir/
dgthe3 @ Thu Jan 13, 2005 8:54 am
i hold to the belief that at least the western world and the middle east will be much more peaceful when we all realise that the fundemental beliefs of Christianity, Judaism, and of Islam are all the same. looking way way back, they in fact may have been the same religion that just got interpreted different ways over the last couple thousand years. strict blind belief in religion prevents most people from believing this, or even of thinking of this.
JonnyW @ Fri May 06, 2005 5:11 pm
the third option sometimes works
Constantinople @ Fri May 06, 2005 5:45 pm
We all know what happens to religious extremism when it hits the Hammer. Charles Martel, 732 Tours.
FuBaR @ Sat May 07, 2005 9:42 pm
IceOwl IceOwl:
Fundamentalists of any kind will always seem a bit loopy. But it's not so much a mental disorder as it is sociopathic indoctrination, usually helped along by a brutal social environment and a lack of proper, sane education.
I dont think its a lack of sane education its an excessive of sane education. These people are pounded with this message an nothing else that anything else is farce. Last time I checked, I dont believe it said in the bible, torah, or koran that blowing yourself up and trying to take out as much of each other as possible was a good thing. And Im deeply sorry if I spelt those wrong, its late, too lazy to check a dictionary.
flyman01 @ Sat May 07, 2005 9:50 pm
Religion is a crutch for the weak minded