The beginning of a Palestinian civil war
gideon @ Sun Jan 29, 2006 12:22 pm
IceOwl IceOwl:
Doesn't help much if you become one.
Oooh, good rebuttal. Calling somebody with whom you disagree a Nazi is SO original
Numure @ Sun Jan 29, 2006 12:36 pm
maple_leaf1 maple_leaf1:
I still can't believe this shit....A freakin terrorist group at the head of a country.
Where are the Americans in this? Oh yeah....there's no oil there.....
Palestine isnt a county... I think that's the main problem.
Numure @ Sun Jan 29, 2006 12:37 pm
gideon gideon:
The nazis were dealt a crushing and humiliating defeat by the USA in WWII.
Not that the Soviet Union had nothing to do with it...
gideon @ Sun Jan 29, 2006 12:48 pm
IceOwl IceOwl:
I don't know how far I would go to call western society "civilized"
Incredible.
You have NO idea how good we have it here in North America.
I suppose that helps explain why you have such utter disrespect for the institutions that made us #1. (Such as the institution of "getting a job.")
You insinuate that our society is "uncivilized." You, dear sir, wouldn't last a day in the third world - especially with that smart mouth.
gideon @ Sun Jan 29, 2006 1:08 pm
IceOwl IceOwl:
"Having it good" doesn't make us civilized, it makes us rich.
Western values + western prosperity = Civilization
$1:
Which glorious institutions would those be? The diamond trade that helps to fuel civil wars in Africa? Is it the depleted uranium weapons that will pollute Iraq for generations? Maybe it's the wars we start so that we can continue to fill our ginormous trucks with gluttonous amounts of gasoline...
Waaaah... all you ever do is bitch and moan.
Lighten up a little, will ya? Your problems are
trivial compared to what most people on this planet have to endure. That, more than anything else, separates us from the other 5 billion brutes.
P.S. Get a job.
gideon @ Sun Jan 29, 2006 1:28 pm
IceOwl IceOwl:
Well, I know reality isn't something you have much in common with, so I have to bring it up once in a while.
Says the 26 year old LOSER who still lives with his mommy.
Nuff said.
$1:
Lighten up about the suffering our excesses cause? Not on your life, and not on mine.
Waaaaah... more whining from the unemployed smart mouthed kid who think's he's going to save the world.
Give it a rest, eh?
Poisson @ Mon Jan 30, 2006 12:49 am
IceOwl IceOwl:
No, the Russians didn't do anything in World War II. They had a socialist paradise, remember?
Lay off the bong and read some WWII history.
It's hard to tell at times, but I think he was being sarcastic since there has never been a socialist utopia, nor will there likely ever be one.
Forgive me for getting back to the original post for a second, but there's just as much a chance of Hamas realizing 'now is your moment; do something' as there is of a civil war.
If Hamas was smart (I know...big if!) they'd turn to Israel right now and say 'we'll give you a 2 year ceasefire this minute and give you 'conditional' recognition (hey, it's a tough sell for their hardcore members and they know it...easy steps, people) if you stop building west bank settlements today, immediately, this very second.' That would put the cat amongst the pigeons, steal the initiative from the Israeli military and secure their foreign aide all in one shot.
Hamas has the opportunity to follow Sinn Fein's example and use 'the bullet and the ballot box' to change their future.