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Did you see the tape of his beheading?

And I guess what you are saying that it is ok that they took his head off cause of Abu Ghrib? Are you sick or something?

   

What's worse. A quick, though painful, death, or slow, systematic torture, leading to your probabl death, whilest being de-humanized and beaten brutally.

   

You have no argument if you throw that in.

   

apples and oranges friends...

   

Yep. take it another way: Hatfield and Mccoys family feud.

This was over kids who wanted to be with each other and it took the United States Supreme Court to end it. Death, loss of property, futures destroyed and potential wasted over what? If all it takes is one beheading on the internet to get the people of the US so whipped up in to a frenzy to abandon all reason then we will see a lot more beheadings in future.

   

I don’t see how any right minded person can compare the abuse of prisoners by US forces to the torture and beheading of innocent aid workers.

Its not even close to apples and oranges.

We are talking about a mind set in the Arab world that sees people killed in riots because of alleged ( and probably true ) instances of disrespect towards the Koran.

When it is all said and done if an Iraqi defecates on the bible I will not be rushing to the Iraqi embassy with a Molotov cocktail, even though I am a good catholic.

Similarly we cannot compare the abuse of prisoners to the murder of hostages. Whatever your tenuous links are, a civilized person would not respond to this abuse by chopping off another person’s head.

This would be a good discussion if some of our Canadian brethren didn’t see this as another excuse to vent their usual anti-Yank venom. Time to grow up guys. Let’s discuss these matters.
It’s really tedious to see everything degenerate into slagging off the yanks.

   

Is this a civil situation? This is a prime example that shows that an occupying army is a blunt and clumsy object when it comes to upholding civil authority and there is repercussions from that is the entire basis of this argument.

As for the American bile: voice your opinion as you please, as long as you don't mandate others follow it. Clearly the coalition of the willing was mandate and as the Downing street memo shows the US cooked the books. Now I don't know what you consider to be anti-American but criticizing the foreign policy of the US does not by default make it anti-American does it?

Btw, I don't watch snuff videos but I did watch the Berg one after I found out it was a fake. That is not to say beheadings don't happen but that one was a black op stunt just like the babies in Kuwait who were taken off of their incubatiors just before the 1st Iraq war.

   

Whether the US occupation is legal or not, these be-headers were mostly asking for cash or having their chums released from US captivity. No noble cause here. I can’t think of any nation that was occupied in modern times where the resistance resorted to this kind of barbaric conduct.

Should we have left Saddam to carry on doing untold evil to his people? It sounds like you would rather be a modern day Neville Chamberlain and appease the despots?
Lloyd Axworthy’s “Soft power” is no power. Appeasement caused the Second World war. The world ignored the treatment of the Jews.
At least the Yanks and Brits stepped into to protect the Kurds and Saddam’s genocidal aims for them
Whatever stupid things the yanks do to their prisoners does not excuse the inhuman treatment of aid workers in Iraq.

But the thread is right. War does make beasts of us. I know I’ve been in one.

   

I wouldn't have sold Saddam the weapons in the 1st place. My point is if the President of the US commits and impeachable offense then it is not anti-American to point that out.

   

Hey the weapons were sold in the cold war.
The world was two armed camps and the Yanks and Brits made some questionable choices, but those choices were made in the shadow of the Soviet threat. Even Saddam looked ok when faced with Brezhnev.

You need to put that in perspective. Applying today’s standards to the Cold War world is an inequitable comparison.
Up until the early 90's we were trained and waited for the Soviet invasion that never happened, and I believe if we weren’t waiting maybe they would have come.
Stalin, Khrushchev and Brezhnev would have gone for it if they thought they could have done it.
Ask the Poles, the Czech's and the Hungarians how Soviet imperialism worked.

What's this talk of impeachment? Is this just your view or is somebody who knows what they are talking about advocating impeachment?

   

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