When Should We Deal With Iran?

I agree that hosting the "International Conference to Review the Global Vision of the Holocaust" was in bad taste and did nothing useful.

I agree with most everything you said rationalist, but, on a side note, why was it in bad taste? we already live in a world that imprisons holocaust deniers. thats right, someone is sitting in jail right now for claiming that the holocaust never went down the way everyone thinks it did. which is absurd. I mean, someone doesn't just wake up one day with nothing to do and decide to become a holocaust denier. Alot of these "holocaust deniers" are educated historians, most we will never hear about. why???

If I decide to read a book by Ernst Zundel does that make me a bad person? is it a poor choice made in poor taste?

In my view this whole debait is pointless as it lacks objectivity. The only things we know about Iran come from the media and/or our politicians and we all know that those aren't always the most reliable sources of information. We don't even know if a war will take place, but anyway, for the sake of the convo...

In my view the fact that Iran does not have a democratic goverment and the fact that it has a troubled past, helps the goverments interested in their resources sufocate us with information such as them tring to build nukes. All wars are fought for only one thing and that is resources. All the other reasons are just pretexts to justify your actions. No state is crazy enough to mobilise an entire armada just for the sake of democracy, but you do mobilise them if the gains at the end of the war are higher than those during the war.

Concerning these much debaited nukes even if they build a nuke it's very debaitable to what the purpose of the nuclear program is.

Keep in mind that no country is crazy enough to use a nuke, especialy when there are countries with superior firepower that can wipe you out in a few hours. Nowadays, a nuke is impractical as a weapon, but very good as a bargaining chip, thus in Iran's case a nuke can play the role of a defensive weapon against what seemes to be a very determined future enemy.

Whoever, i for one am not conviced they are tring to do build a nuke and even if Iran is occupied and they still find out nuclear reactors i'll still won't be convinced...maybe and i underline maybe only if they show a nuke itself, but even than there can be debaits to what the origin of that nuke really is.

Even with a nuclear reactor itslef, it proves nothing as they can use that reactor for energetical reasons and
It's true, the point would be to prevent Iran from building a nuke, rather than wait for Iran to build it in order to prove your point to the masses, but i am pretty sure there are plenty of means to convince them peacefully...unless you want their resources. In this case a war would be alot more convenient to those ocuppying the country at the end of it...assuming of course Iran would lose.

Sceptics might say that the US intelligence prolly knows what Iran is doing, so their actions are easy to back up but i think that what the US Intelligence knows we will probably never find out in our lifetime, exept what it suits them, so that argument goes to dust as well because argumenting your actions with a piece of information that is classified is not democratic either and it only proves that your actions are mostly in favor of the bussines groups backing up certain politicians.

In my opinion, if Iran wanted to have nukes, they would have made them by now as they have enough oil to afford them. Also, whatever actions will be taken against Iran were probably planned a looong time ago, so all the public debaits about these subjects are in the end pointless if those in charge have made up their minds years ago.

and rightly so. I less country, ruled by Mr. Planter's kin, with nukes is a good thing. And speaking of another nut bearing tree, what happened in the ME over the last century had zilch to do with Christianity and everything to do with economics - unless we are to believe the atrocities committed by Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot were the direct result of their atheistic beliefs. That's like some of the loony Irishmen thinking the royal family was behind the troubles.

ssra, i must point this out...

iraq.. inspectors from UN, not IAEA.. very different group.
i would say Barradi is doing a very good job, maybe even being a little too lenient.

Romania, Slovakia, and others were not democratic during the installation
of those reactors.. they stilled played by the rules.

p.s. Shep, i didnt understand a word of ur post.. probably better that way

that fresh air of urs must be playing with ur brain.. or least ur fingers ROTFL

was addressing Israel's response to Iranian aggression and someone's repetitive assertion that the nutball's are justified in their buildup because of the West's prior involvement in the region.