Most overated leader in history.
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hwacker @ Wed Jun 22, 2005 3:56 pm
Bigboy Bigboy:
hwacker hwacker:
xerxes xerxes:
This is an easy one: GWB
It's even easier: Paul Martini
Who ever had faith in Martini?
Half of our stupid country. and most of Ontario, but what would you expect they get a free pass to come here in exchange for a vote, i'd come too.
xerxes @ Wed Jun 22, 2005 3:58 pm
God, you are such an anit-Canadian
hwacker @ Wed Jun 22, 2005 3:59 pm
xerxes xerxes:
God, you are such an anit-Canadian
Thats why i got the medal. can't get anything pass you EH.
Constantinople @ Wed Jun 22, 2005 4:01 pm
xerxes xerxes:
God, you are such an anit-Canadian
God is not anti-Canadian.
Mustang1 @ Wed Jun 22, 2005 4:01 pm
Tman1 Tman1:
Mustang1 Mustang1:
Most overrated leader? I’ll offer a few and let the shit storm start:
1. Hitler – I know it’s an obvious choice, but most know something about him, so dialogue should be easy to start
2. Mao Zedong – Great Leap Forward + Cultural Revolution
1. Hitler – I know it’s an obvious choice, but most know something about him, so dialogue should be easy to start
2. Mao Zedong – Great Leap Forward + Cultural Revolution
While I agree that those two did do great leap forwards for their people and country, can the same be said for the cost? Maos Red Book was the basis of life for the Chinese which he prompted every family to produce around 5 or so kids each, thus creating the overpopulation. What about Chain Kai-Shek?
A good choice as well. Kai-shek’s historiography is interesting as he is often contrasted (ideologically) to Mao, but it’s often at the price of some his rather glaring failures (like trying to defeat the communists before addressing the Japanese invasion + his eventual military – some would argue political – defeat at the hands of the communists).
How about this one? Che Guevara.
xerxes @ Wed Jun 22, 2005 4:04 pm
Constantinople Constantinople:
xerxes xerxes:
God, you are such an anit-Canadian
God is not anti-Canadian.
Wow that's clever
hwacker @ Wed Jun 22, 2005 4:04 pm
Che Guevara was no leader, he was a crackpot with a gun.
Hrmm that maybe considered a leader in some books.
bootlegga @ Wed Jun 22, 2005 4:05 pm
Jaime_Souviens Jaime_Souviens:
Gary Bettman.
Too funny!
Bigboy @ Wed Jun 22, 2005 4:07 pm
bootlegga bootlegga:
Jaime_Souviens Jaime_Souviens:
Gary Bettman.
Too funny!
Yeah the thread just says Leader
Tman1 @ Wed Jun 22, 2005 4:16 pm
Mustang1 Mustang1:
Tman1 Tman1:
Mustang1 Mustang1:
Most overrated leader? I’ll offer a few and let the shit storm start:
1. Hitler – I know it’s an obvious choice, but most know something about him, so dialogue should be easy to start
2. Mao Zedong – Great Leap Forward + Cultural Revolution
1. Hitler – I know it’s an obvious choice, but most know something about him, so dialogue should be easy to start
2. Mao Zedong – Great Leap Forward + Cultural Revolution
While I agree that those two did do great leap forwards for their people and country, can the same be said for the cost? Maos Red Book was the basis of life for the Chinese which he prompted every family to produce around 5 or so kids each, thus creating the overpopulation. What about Chain Kai-Shek?
A good choice as well. Kai-shek’s historiography is interesting as he is often contrasted (ideologically) to Mao, but it’s often at the price of some his rather glaring failures (like trying to defeat the communists before addressing the Japanese invasion + his eventual military – some would argue political – defeat at the hands of the communists).
How about this one? Che Guevara.
Whoops that was Chiang but oh well. I have no ultimate knowledge of him but to many third world revolutionary countries he was a hero in his own right. He was a theorist and tactician of asymmetric warfare.
BartSimpson @ Wed Jun 22, 2005 4:17 pm
Mustang1 Mustang1:
Most overrated leader? I’ll offer a few and let the shit storm start:
1. Hitler – I know it’s an obvious choice, but most know something about him, so dialogue should be easy to start
2. Mao Zedong – Great Leap Forward + Cultural Revolution
1. Hitler – I know it’s an obvious choice, but most know something about him, so dialogue should be easy to start
2. Mao Zedong – Great Leap Forward + Cultural Revolution
Besides the fact that Mao trumps Hitler as a homocidal maniac I'd still give both of them credit for their accomplishments that were separate from their failures.
Hitler did indeed lift Germany out of the depression before he drove it over the precipice.
Mao unified China which the Nationalists never had done. Then he kiiled 100 million or so of his own people...but no one's perfect.
hwacker @ Wed Jun 22, 2005 4:19 pm
Avro Avro:
$1:
Worst thing for the middle east that ever was, Have a nice sleep you POS.
This proves how stupid you really are.
Most over rated leader is Bush2.
Yeah ok Libby, get over yourself SOON PLEASE
thats POS was making trouble before Bush SR was in office. LOOK IT UP.
ManifestDestiny @ Wed Jun 22, 2005 4:19 pm
Patrick_Ross Patrick_Ross:
hwacker hwacker:
EyeBrock EyeBrock:
Pierre Eliot Trudeau.
He was just a knob.
He was just a knob.
I 2nd that
I hear that.
OneNationUnderGod OneNationUnderGod:
I will start by saying Martin Luther King And I know People are gonna attck me on this but I dont do tyhing to be PC. My reasoning is he only helped a small group of people and never really led much or Accomplished much.
Not to be brash or anything, but you started hitting the crack early today, didn't you?
Pvore you point instead of calling me a crack head. What did he accomplish as a leader?
I live in NYC you live in white bread Edmonton I see everyday what he accomplished.
Bigboy @ Wed Jun 22, 2005 4:21 pm
hwacker hwacker:
Avro Avro:
$1:
Worst thing for the middle east that ever was, Have a nice sleep you POS.
This proves how stupid you really are.
Most over rated leader is Bush2.
Yeah ok Libby, get over yourself SOON PLEASE
thats POS was making trouble before Bush SR was in office. LOOK IT UP.
He invented Terrorism
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