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2.5 hours per class. 2 classes (or 3 for some) a day.

   

Intensive. People usually lose focus if they go that long. I think 90 minutes was found to be optimum.

   

We're galloping into a recession right now so "hurting" oil is not beneficial to Ontario. Most of us never thought so in the first place.

   

In Holland, long time ago, students used to take a barrage of aptitude tests at 14 or so.

If the kid took the path the tests showed, their education was subsidized.


Slovakia still has specialized secondary schools; trades, business, general education, university preparation.





Because that would require the public schools to do something, rather than sitting
on their fat asses, behind their fat public unions, and complaining.

This is much better for them.






Yeah, Greece comes to mind.






Just make sure you keep on pushing the idiots through the system, and chasing the
lowest possible denominator.

And then people wonder why private schools do better.

Or get angry about it.

   

Not exactly fair to say that every parent faced with the same information would act as you described.



If schools are supposed to be a 'hands on' type of thing, why are teachers out of reach to questions and scrutiny of their work?

   

I have never met a public school teacher who wanted to
They are told to pass people who shouldn't be passed. Why is that? I know teachers who had their marks changed on the report card, by the office, at the request of the school board. That must be because the teachers are

   

Yeah, Greece comes to mind.

We're not "Greece" yet or even Italy. Let's just say that Ontario is a f-cked up as France ... or even the U.K., for that matter.

   

And you are very right here. It's only a few parents who do such things, but they are the ones who will head straight to the Principals office after an interview to complain and then call the director of education to try to get the teacher who is "holding back poor little Johnny" fired. Ask a teacher. I bet most have had that experience.
Most parents do want to work with the school and improve their child's learning experience, but a few ...

In regards to your second question: Are they? You are telling me that you as a parent can't say anything. You must have been in some school I have never been in. Calls and imput from parents are appreciated things, they were in my school and they are in the school my kid goes to now. I am usually able to get same day access to both Principal and teacher (except band and English teacher, who move around from school to school and may not be available this day, but will be within 2 days.)

   

We had a break half way through.

   

Think this is the second time in a month I've had to give a nod to Andy, maybe its something in the water lately.

Either way I think he is right with what he says in the bolded part of his quote. Our kids are in semi-private school and for my wife's own first six years she took German Immersion in a public school (then went private from 7 - 12) She noticed not only her class but all the German immersion classes on average had better grades than the regular students and always speculated this had to do with the type of parents who enrolled their kids in those programs. Ones likely more interested in their kids education and providing the most benefits to them in their educations (learning another language does more than just lets you speak in another language). What I observe in our private school are parents who are more involved and on average more educated than public school parents. Many have also been the product of a public system failure or their kids have been subjected to problems with the public system. So in general while I think the caliber of the education is slightly better it is also the importance put on it at home is different and therefore drives the kids a bit more. This is by no means saying great involved parents are not in the public system, simply the ratio is higher in private. It is certainly a big financial burden at our income level but we feel its worth it and we may put them in public school from middle school onwards once they have a good grounding to work from.

The part of being in a class with those with similar backgrounds and no special needs however is, at least in my kids school, not true. There are certainly other backgrounds and cultures as well as special needs in our school and resources dedicated to them, my daughter is one of them.

BTW to those who poo poo on private school families don't forget we still pay school taxes like the rest of you but in our case we provide ZERO draw on the public system, so we're giving the public system free money for no return, our taxes just benefit your kids, not ours. So in a way we're helping the public system more than public school families are.

   

Thank you, but actually I was just referring to the op. Why that would cause Shep to fling shit and his circle jerkers to join in is beyond me.

In BC, private schools are funded at 50% of public schools, so zero draw doesn't apply here. The only problem with private schools, like a private healthcare system, is that the govt starves the public one. If it didn't do that, there would be zero complaints about the private system.

   

Just wait til interest rates go up, should be about the time she gets her real spending
purse out.

Get out while you can.

   

We have no angst at all about private schools. And by your description our school system doesn't resemble yours in the least. Shep can comment on this more accurately but it is not up to the provincial government to deliver education. The curriculum is set by the province but it is the local school boards that decide how the city's education tax is spend and where. About the only gripe I hear about schooling is why we are funding Catholic schools since they are religion based. Even blaming the provincial government is a bit of a stretch here.

   

Mainly because that's all you're deserving of. You aren't worthy of serious dialogue.

   

Bingo.

   

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