Restaurant chain owner lobbies for increased minimum wage
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BartSimpson @ Thu Feb 06, 2014 10:35 am
Brenda Brenda:
Why would you be paid minimum wage if you are always on time, while your co workers are not?
Because NEWS FLASH!: Life isn't fair.
Public_Domain @ Thu Feb 06, 2014 10:40 am
andyt @ Thu Feb 06, 2014 10:48 am
bootlegga bootlegga:
Still, it is good to know that for those who choose not to take that path (education and training), that some employers are making certain that not everyone in the service sector lives a meagre existence.
Or for some reason can't take that path.
Newsflash - the boomers aren't retiring.
If some employers are doing it, let's set a decent baseline that gets all employers to do it. It may not be the best solution, but it's one that will actually happen, instead of just being a figment of Khar's imagination.
Brenda @ Thu Feb 06, 2014 11:06 am
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Brenda Brenda:
Why would you be paid minimum wage if you are always on time, while your co workers are not?
Because NEWS FLASH!: Life isn't fair.
That's code for 'suck it up, Princess, it is all your own fault, regardless of the fact you are doing everything right and work your ass off to get better and be better', right?
BartSimpson @ Thu Feb 06, 2014 12:03 pm
Brenda Brenda:
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Brenda Brenda:
Why would you be paid minimum wage if you are always on time, while your co workers are not?
Because NEWS FLASH!: Life isn't fair.
That's code for 'suck it up, Princess, it is all your own fault, regardless of the fact you are doing everything right and work your ass off to get better and be better', right?
That's right. Sometimes you can do all the right things like get good grades, go to college and get a good degree, and then still end up working as a barista at Starbuck's.
Life is a wild and hairy adventure and it's not for the weak of heart who want guarantees and who want someone else to take responsibility for their lives.
I can't even begin to list the number of times I've been screwed by employers, coworkers, family, government and etc. and each time I've picked myself up, brushed myself off and moved on.
People screwing you over once is part of life. Letting the same people keep screwing you over is your own damned fault.
Screwing yourself over by not changing your habits, not improving your work skills, not keeping up with the times...those things are also your own damned fault.
A few examples of people screwing themselves over through personal inaction can be readily found on this site in those sad individuals who hold no hope of improving their lot in life unless someone else can be forced to provide for them.
They never stop and wonder what they can do on their own because that would lead to some very uncomfortable self-examination and assessment in which they'd discover that their worst enemy is not some CEO on Wall Street, or some manager at the McDonald's where they work, or an ex-husband, or etc.
Nope, their worst enemy is the person who looks at them in the mirror every day and says, "Your life is bad because there are people in the world conspiring to keep you down!"
The fact of the matter is that no one is conspiring to keep these people down for the simple matter that no one really cares about them anyway. Not their employer, not their family, no one.
A wise man once said that most men lead lives of quiet desperation. It seems that some people are not quiet about it.
In any case, they have no one to blame but themselves for the state that they are in. Until they do something about it on their own there's not much anyone else can do for them.
rickc @ Thu Feb 06, 2014 12:08 pm
Brenda Brenda:
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Brenda Brenda:
Why would you be paid minimum wage if you are always on time, while your co workers are not?
Because NEWS FLASH!: Life isn't fair.
That's code for 'suck it up, Princess, it is all your own fault, regardless of the fact you are doing everything right and work your ass off to get better and be better', right?
If someone is an adult working for the minimum wage (who is not attending college, or vocational training), exactly how are they trying to better themselves? Showing up for work on time is part of the job requirement. You don't get rewarded for doing what is required of you. The people who do not show up on time need to be fired!
ShepherdsDog @ Thu Feb 06, 2014 12:18 pm
$1:
Showing up for work on time is part of the job requirement. You don't get rewarded for doing what is required of you.
Ladies and Gentlemen, we have a winner. Too bad most people don`t understand that by consistently doing the basic minimum, your pay cheque is your reward. Going above and beyond is where you get your pay raises and incentives. If you`re not getting extra for doing extra, then you need to go elsewhere to sell your skill set.
rickc @ Thu Feb 06, 2014 12:22 pm
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
That's right. Sometimes you can do all the right things like get good grades, go to college and get a good degree, and then still end up working as a barista at Starbuck's.
Life is a wild and hairy adventure and it's not for the weak of heart who want guarantees and who want someone else to take responsibility for their lives.
I can't even begin to list the number of times I've been screwed by employers, coworkers, family, government and etc. and each time I've picked myself up, brushed myself off and moved on.
People screwing you over once is part of life. Letting the same people keep screwing you over is your own damned fault.
Screwing yourself over by not changing your habits, not improving your work skills, not keeping up with the times...those things are also your own damned fault.
A few examples of people screwing themselves over through personal inaction can be readily found on this site in those sad individuals who hold no hope of improving their lot in life unless someone else can be forced to provide for them.
They never stop and wonder what they can do on their own because that would lead to some very uncomfortable self-examination and assessment in which they'd discover that their worst enemy is not some CEO on Wall Street, or some manager at the McDonald's where they work, or an ex-husband, or etc.
Nope, their worst enemy is the person who looks at them in the mirror every day and says, "Your life is bad because there are people in the world conspiring to keep you down!"
The fact of the matter is that no one is conspiring to keep these people down for the simple matter that no one really cares about them anyway. Not their employer, not their family, no one.
A wise man once said that most men lead lives of quiet desperation. It seems that some people are not quiet about it.
In any case, they have no one to blame but themselves for the state that they are in. Until they do something about it on their own there's not much anyone else can do for them.
Great post! I'd rep if I could!
ShepherdsDog @ Thu Feb 06, 2014 12:32 pm
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
That's right. Sometimes you can do all the right things like get good grades, go to college and get a good degree, and then still end up working as a barista at Starbuck's.
Life is a wild and hairy adventure and it's not for the weak of heart who want guarantees and who want someone else to take responsibility for their lives.
I can't even begin to list the number of times I've been screwed by employers, coworkers, family, government and etc. and each time I've picked myself up, brushed myself off and moved on.
People screwing you over once is part of life. Letting the same people keep screwing you over is your own damned fault.
Screwing yourself over by not changing your habits, not improving your work skills, not keeping up with the times...those things are also your own damned fault.
A few examples of people screwing themselves over through personal inaction can be readily found on this site in those sad individuals who hold no hope of improving their lot in life unless someone else can be forced to provide for them.
They never stop and wonder what they can do on their own because that would lead to some very uncomfortable self-examination and assessment in which they'd discover that their worst enemy is not some CEO on Wall Street, or some manager at the McDonald's where they work, or an ex-husband, or etc.
Nope, their worst enemy is the person who looks at them in the mirror every day and says, "Your life is bad because there are people in the world conspiring to keep you down!"
The fact of the matter is that no one is conspiring to keep these people down for the simple matter that no one really cares about them anyway. Not their employer, not their family, no one.
A wise man once said that most men lead lives of quiet desperation. It seems that some people are not quiet about it.
In any case, they have no one to blame but themselves for the state that they are in. Until they do something about it on their own there's not much anyone else can do for them.
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bootlegga @ Thu Feb 06, 2014 12:52 pm
andyt andyt:
bootlegga bootlegga:
Still, it is good to know that for those who choose not to take that path (education and training), that some employers are making certain that not everyone in the service sector lives a meagre existence.
Or for some reason can't take that path.
Newsflash - the boomers aren't retiring.
If some employers are doing it, let's set a decent baseline that gets all employers to do it. It may not be the best solution, but it's one that will actually happen, instead of just being a figment of Khar's imagination.
There aren't many legitimate reasons not to get an education and improve your lot in life IMHO.
Sure Boomers are retiring, lots cashed out via Freedom 55. Others might not be retiring as fast as Gen X and Y would like, but it's not like everyone is planning on working until they are 75 or 80. Most aren't working that much longer, even if they are staying past 65.
$1:
Riddell said the evidence is that, to the extent the hiring cycle is disrupted, it’s not for long. When mandatory retirement has been scrapped at different times in different places, he said, workers who remained on the job beyond age 65 stayed, on average, only for an extra year and a half.
http://www.vancouversun.com/business/ec ... story.html
Brenda @ Thu Feb 06, 2014 1:33 pm
$1:
That's right. Sometimes you can do all the right things like get good grades, go to college and get a good degree, and then still end up working as a barista at Starbuck's.
Some people really LIKE working as a barista at Starbucks and are REALLY good at it, and make that particular Starbucks jump out from the rest and gain more revenue than the one 3 blocks away, or any other in the city.
Should that barista still make minimum wage?
Yogi @ Thu Feb 06, 2014 1:53 pm
Brenda Brenda:
$1:
That's right. Sometimes you can do all the right things like get good grades, go to college and get a good degree, and then still end up working as a barista at Starbuck's.
Some people really LIKE working as a barista at Starbucks and are REALLY good at it, and make that particular Starbucks jump out from the rest and gain more revenue than the one 3 blocks away, or any other in the city.
Should that barista still make minimum wage?
That's a conversation that particular Barista should be having with employer.
Brenda @ Thu Feb 06, 2014 1:58 pm
Yogi Yogi:
Brenda Brenda:
Some people really LIKE working as a barista at Starbucks and are REALLY good at it, and make that particular Starbucks jump out from the rest and gain more revenue than the one 3 blocks away, or any other in the city.
Should that barista still make minimum wage?
Should that barista still make minimum wage?
That's a conversation that particular Barista should be having with employer.
And I believe it should be the other way around, and it should be the employer who initiates that conversation and raise.
rickc @ Thu Feb 06, 2014 2:09 pm
Brenda Brenda:
$1:
That's right. Sometimes you can do all the right things like get good grades, go to college and get a good degree, and then still end up working as a barista at Starbuck's.
Some people really LIKE working as a barista at Starbucks and are REALLY good at it, and make that particular Starbucks jump out from the rest and gain more revenue than the one 3 blocks away, or any other in the city.
Should that barista still make minimum wage?
That decision should be up to the owner of that particular Starbucks. If the owner feels that this barista is too valuable to lose to another store, than they can pay them more money if they so choose. The government should not be involved in the matter. If someone actually aspires to be a barista in life (knowing that the pay sucks), than they deserve to be poor. They bring that on themselves. It shows a total lack of ambition on their part. You don't get to pick a menial job that you know pays shit wages, and then continually whine about the money you make. No one wants to hear it. If they really LOVE being a barista and want to make a good wage, than they can open a coffee shop of their own. That would show some ambition on their part. They can do what they love, and their earning power is unlimited.
Yogi @ Thu Feb 06, 2014 2:10 pm
Brenda Brenda:
Yogi Yogi:
Brenda Brenda:
Some people really LIKE working as a barista at Starbucks and are REALLY good at it, and make that particular Starbucks jump out from the rest and gain more revenue than the one 3 blocks away, or any other in the city.
Should that barista still make minimum wage?
Should that barista still make minimum wage?
That's a conversation that particular Barista should be having with employer.
And I believe it should be the other way around, and it should be the employer who initiates that conversation and raise.
Never gonna happen! Not in min wage or any other (excepting govt/union) situations.
The one who feels the remuneration should be higher is the one to initiate.
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