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Bottom line, PA9, is that despite your wish that lecturing and moralizing to women over proper sexual behavior will curb the need for public and private plans to cover birth control/abortion, the undisputed fact is that it doesn't. Full stop. So what are you going to do about it, let those unwanted babies get born and burden the system just to make some moral point?

Also, your continued to claim that woman are the sole beneficiaries of birth control/abortion is misguided. What are you some deadbeat dad who goes around knocking up chicks and then saying "if you decide to keep it, you're problem not mine". The man is equally responsible for getting a women pregnant and equally responsible for providing for that child, even if he wanted to abort and the woman refused. There's no other way around that.

To put another way, the food you eat and the amount of exercise you get is choice just like having sex, so are you saying that anyone who refuses to live a puritan lifestyle like an olympic athlete be refused care?

   

I like holding doors open for women - to help them get through the doorway with the ironing board.

   

Are you saying I cant buy my own condoms for them to wear? It's MY health too we're talking about, yaknow.

   

Well according to the way this thread is going, no you can't. Seems everyone is so poor in Canada that you need Gov. assistance to buy them.

   

I didn't say that but you certainly got close to saying it.



I just don't see why anyone should pay for anyone else's good time.

   

I dont get why everyone should pay for anybody else's illnesses or old age. Or highways I will never drive on.
I guess that living in a society does that tho.

My health is as important as yours to you and to me. Without each other, there is no society.
You dont want me and my 17 kids end up on welfare simply because I did a natural thing, that somehow, religion has changed into something dirty, right?

   

Listen shitfuck. I'm 48 yrs old, I had more than my fair share of fun with the ladies and yet I've managed to NOT produce ANY unwanted offspring. It's really not that goddam difficult to pull off if one actually engages ones grey matter instead of thinking with their reproductive parts.
It's too bad all you've got for arguments are strawmen and talking shit.

The need isn't there because birth control is cheap. The pill, at most, costs a buck a day. Now, except for the extremely poor, there's no excuse why anyone else can't afford their own. Christ, as a teenager I was paying for my own condoms. I didn't want kids I couldn't afford so I made sure I did what I could to make sure I didn't have kids I didn't want or couldn't afford.
Once again, it's called PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY! In this day and age in particular there's no friggin' excuse for an unwanted pregnancy, outside of a broken condom or a b/c prescription not being effective for an individual.


Yeah dude, because nationalized b/c and abortion is the only answer. Typical liberal, can't think outside the box. It's always about spending someone else's money.

   

Abortion/birth control is awesome because it's been a huge help in keeping the number of future criminals down.

   

As I said lecture all about your wishes all you want. All that matters is what really IS. And the facts say some people get pregnant and seek abortions. It's not in our interest to make abortions less accessible in exchange for PA9s chastity lecture.

   

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