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neopundit @ Sun Nov 11, 2007 12:36 pm

Tricks Tricks:

How does that makes someone less of a person? It makes them more of a person.

Link.

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The original idea behind Armistice Day and the red poppy was to send the message ‘never again,’ and I think that’s been forgotten,” he explained. “I don’t think there’s any veterans out there that think, ‘yeah, that was fun, let’s do that again.

That's what he meant.

Tricks @ Sun Nov 11, 2007 12:37 pm

neopundit neopundit:

Tricks Tricks:

Yeah, they do. He said they are lesser people for serving. That's disrespect.

Total bullshit.

He said their lives were lessened. This is truth. Read the thread and people explain it.

How were their lives lessened? They fought for their country. They did the honourable thing. Did they experience hardships? Absolutely, but they volunteered knowing what they were going into. They are spinning in their graves at people thinking their lives were lessened.

Streaker @ Sun Nov 11, 2007 12:37 pm

Tricks Tricks:

Streaker Streaker:

Tricks Tricks:

neopundit neopundit:

Tricks Tricks:

It isn't acceptable. I don't condone them. How about if I took the peace symbol and fucked with it?

For what purpose, to forward a anti-peace agenda? Like I said, go ahead. If your searching for some symbol that might garner a "rise" out of me, I don't think you'll succeed.

You're welcome to think the author is an idiot and disagree with him. But these tie ins to not being thankful and disrespectful have no legs.

Yeah, they do. He said they are lesser people for serving. That's disrespect.

I think he meant that they experienced great hardship and suffering.

No disrespect whatsoever.

How does that makes someone less of a person? It makes them more of a person.

Many men come back from war utterly broken. There is no disrespect in acknowledging that.

Tricks @ Sun Nov 11, 2007 12:38 pm

neopundit neopundit:

Tricks Tricks:

How does that makes someone less of a person? It makes them more of a person.

Link.

$1:

That's what he meant.

How has that been forgotten?

Tricks @ Sun Nov 11, 2007 12:38 pm

Streaker Streaker:

Tricks Tricks:

Streaker Streaker:

Tricks Tricks:

neopundit neopundit:

Tricks Tricks:

It isn't acceptable. I don't condone them. How about if I took the peace symbol and fucked with it?

Yeah, they do. He said they are lesser people for serving. That's disrespect.

I think he meant that they experienced great hardship and suffering.

No disrespect whatsoever.

How does that makes someone less of a person? It makes them more of a person.

In many cases that must be true, but many men come back from war utterly broken and there is no disrespect in acknowledging that.

Indeed. However, it seems these two weren't.

neopundit @ Sun Nov 11, 2007 12:39 pm

Tricks Tricks:

Their lives would have been better had there been no war in the first place. Their lives were lessened because they had to go to war. I don't see what's so hard to understand.

Edits for spelling.

Streaker @ Sun Nov 11, 2007 12:41 pm

neopundit neopundit:

Tricks Tricks:

There lives would have been better had there been no war in the first place. Their lives were lessened because they had to go to war. I don't see what's so hard to understand.

Tricks is deliberately thick at times.

neopundit @ Sun Nov 11, 2007 12:41 pm

Streaker Streaker:

Many men come back from war utterly broken. There is no disrespect in acknowledging that.

And many don't come back at all. Those men certainly had their lives lessened, in both quality and length.

Streaker @ Sun Nov 11, 2007 12:42 pm

Tricks Tricks:

Streaker Streaker:

Tricks Tricks:

Streaker Streaker:

Tricks Tricks:

neopundit neopundit:

Tricks Tricks:

It isn't acceptable. I don't condone them. How about if I took the peace symbol and fucked with it?

Yeah, they do. He said they are lesser people for serving. That's disrespect.

I think he meant that they experienced great hardship and suffering.

No disrespect whatsoever.

How does that makes someone less of a person? It makes them more of a person.

In many cases that must be true, but many men come back from war utterly broken and there is no disrespect in acknowledging that.

Indeed. However, it seems these two weren't.

We really don't know that. Maybe they preferred to suffer in silence.

Tricks @ Sun Nov 11, 2007 12:44 pm

neopundit neopundit:

Tricks Tricks:

Their lives would have been better had there been no war in the first place. Their lives were lessened because they had to go to war. I don't see what's so hard to understand.

Edits for spelling.

Well no shit there lives could have been better. That wasn't really an option though. I don't think their lives were lessened. Ask the people here who have been deployed. Were their lives lessened? I bet I know their response.

Tricks @ Sun Nov 11, 2007 12:44 pm

Streaker Streaker:

neopundit neopundit:

Tricks Tricks:

There lives would have been better had there been no war in the first place. Their lives were lessened because they had to go to war. I don't see what's so hard to understand.

Tricks is deliberately thick at times.

And you're a piece of shit. Hey look we're equal.

Brenda @ Sun Nov 11, 2007 12:45 pm

neopundit neopundit:

Their lives would have been better had there been no war in the first place. Their lives were lessened because they had to go to war. I don't see what's so hard to understand.

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Everybodies lives would have been better if we all lived in Utopia.

A lot of Vets are VERY proud of their time at the front. They don't feel like their lives were lessened by it. It was their choice, and they feel they did a good job. War always sucks, but the Vets who fought them did that for a reason.

And then you can say that they should have been home... Yeah, so should the truckdriver...

Tricks @ Sun Nov 11, 2007 12:45 pm

Streaker Streaker:

Tricks Tricks:

Streaker Streaker:

Tricks Tricks:

Streaker Streaker:

Tricks Tricks:

neopundit neopundit:

Tricks Tricks:

It isn't acceptable. I don't condone them. How about if I took the peace symbol and fucked with it?

Yeah, they do. He said they are lesser people for serving. That's disrespect.

I think he meant that they experienced great hardship and suffering.

No disrespect whatsoever.

How does that makes someone less of a person? It makes them more of a person.

In many cases that must be true, but many men come back from war utterly broken and there is no disrespect in acknowledging that.

Indeed. However, it seems these two weren't.

We really don't know that. Maybe they preferred to suffer in silence.

There is never a question of whether or not people are mentally broken. It's not something they can easily hide.

Tricks @ Sun Nov 11, 2007 12:47 pm

Brenda Brenda:

neopundit neopundit:

Their lives would have been better had there been no war in the first place. Their lives were lessened because they had to go to war. I don't see what's so hard to understand.

Edits for spelling.

Thank you. My grandfather doesn't think his life was lessened. Neither does my aunts grandfather, who served in both world wars. Sure it affected him, and he rarely talked about it, but he was a normal person.

neopundit @ Sun Nov 11, 2007 12:49 pm

Tricks Tricks:

Well no shit there lives could have been better.

And that's the author's point. X number of years spent fighting a war instead of with the family, a chapter in their life that upon returning home they don't speak about. Nothing about honour, nothing about wishing they didn't fight.

$1:

Ask the people here who have been deployed. Were their lives lessened? I bet I know their response.

While this is a whole 'nother can o' worms, I laugh every time I see people drawing parallels between the WW's and Afghanistan.

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