Today... I saw my first fully veiled Muslim women in public

600 mosques in Britain run by hardliners, probe finds
Top Sunni sect official calls on Muslims to 'shed blood'

Agence France-Presse

Friday, September 07, 2007

Citing a copy of a police report it had seen, a London newspaper said just under half of Britain's 1,350 mosques were run by the hardline Deobandi sect.

LONDON - Nearly half of all mosques in Britain are run by a hardline Sunni sect, whose leading preacher in Britain calls on Muslims to "shed blood" in the name of religion, The Times of London reported today.

Citing a copy of a police report it had seen, the newspaper said more than 600 of Britain's 1,350 mosques were run by the Deobandi sect.

The newspaper said 17 of Britain's 26 Islamic seminaries were run by Deobandi Muslims, and added that the sect produces 80 per cent of Britain's home-trained Islamic clerics.

A spokesman for Scotland Yard could not immediately confirm the details of The Times article.

According to the report, the movement's most prominent preacher in Britain, Riyadh ul-Haq, has argued that Muslim friendship with either Jews or Christians makes "a mockery of Allah's religion."

Mr. Ul-Haq declined to comment when contacted by The Times.

This is what caused their problem.

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while most muslims are not out to whack their neighbour, many of the influential ones or those in places of authority seem to be making controversial comments.

Yeah well! At some point in every societies history including ours, people were executed/persecuted with imaginative cruelty.

The crucx is that OUR societies have PROGRESSED beyond that and are now attacked by elements of a society still mired in the DARK AGES.

Britain and France--probably others--let in too many Muslims.. It's not a matter of race, it's a matter of culture. Britain has a strong adn illuustrious culture, much of it based on humour around rather mundane bodily functions and a historical unflappability in the face of hostile environments. And some seriously loony royals.

It's culture, not race, that smart conservatives wish to preserve. It's culture, not race, that makes England (and Europe and North Amercian in general) such free and prosperous societies. The idea of multi-culturalism is a bit farcical, because all the cultures are supposed to, in theory, answer to the "uber-culture" of British, or Canadian naitonalism. In other worlds, despite your culture, you're supposed to give a crap about the country you live in.

Tehre were many growing pains with Irish immigrants arriving in the US, or Ukrainians arrriving on the Candian prairies, or any sudden influx of a partiucqalr culture. The idea is that, after a generation or two, the immigrant cultures in question would have changed quite a bit to accomodate the host country, and the ost country would change just a little bit to suit the new culture.

I think a unique aspect now is that some immigrant groups--certainly British adn French Muslims leap to mind--this settling in after a generation or two isn't happening. Indeed, the cultural separation is becoming, if anything, more acute. It's my personal opinion that this doesn't have much to do wiht the culture in question(Islam) as it has to do with the numbers being let in have allowed this sub-culture to compete with the necessary nationalist "uber-culture." They can compete, in my opinion, because they have the numbers.

Immigration is important, clearly, but you have to regulate in such a way that you don't threaten the culture that has made you a prosperous, free country.

Oh, another thing, BN, RESPECT is something you have to EARN.

If you want to be treated with respect, you've got to show respect.

Sweety, I never said they DO anything, I said I DON"T FEEL SAFE! Do I have that right, or do I only have the right to accept everything, and STFU??? Jesus, get a brain!

Isn't that guy in the picture not wearing normal western attire then? I can see him, when something happens, I can ID him, I can buy him a beer in the pub because he helped me with my groceries, so to speak.

You are nitpicking. I just don't agree with you. End of discussion.