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I didn't say he bad-mouthed Canada, I just think that he gets off easy for the other things he talks about. Three members put forth the same general opinion of Muslims in the most recent thread, and only two of them were banned for it. So I too would ask, why is Bart so special?

As for his being "jaded" by his service, that may be an explanation, but it's not a justification.

   

I have a vile agenda?

My vile agenda is asking The Defenders of Islam (TDOI)to give a little consideration to just what it is they're defending.

It's funny to the point of pain to see the TDOI in thread after thread denounce things like honour killings, burqhas and hijabs, female genital mutilation, forced marriages (read: rape), child marriages (read: child rape), religious intolerance, summary executions, acts of terror, inhuman acts of murder and torture, political assassinations, subway bombings, school yard massacres, hospital bombings, slavery, and etc. yet the very same people who denounce these things are utterly incapable of stating that the common denominator to all of these offenses to civilisation is islam itself.

Every last act committed in the name of that faith is consistently explained away as an aberration. Not once is the consideration given that the faith itself is the aberration that is the underlying root cause of the above list of grievances. *

And, without fail, every last person so far who defends islam either knows precious little about it or actually revels in their ignorance of it.

My vile agenda principally consists of asking people to pay more attention to what muslims say and do and I've asked that people read the words that muslims themselves read in the formation of their thoughts about faith and their relations to the rest of the world.

I suppose that reality is politically incorrect these days.


*(and at the same time if one nutbag shoots someone over abortion TDOI rush to blame all of Christianity past, present, future, and imagined for the act)

   

I think Bart HAS bad-mouthed Canada. His whole approach reeks of a kind of smug, self-serving paternalism even as he says nice things about Canada - that alone is disrespectful. To Bart we're just another banana republic.

And just recently he took Canada to task for being intolerant of Nazism in 1939, yet tolerant of Communism, ignoring the fact that his own country did nothing in the face of either.

Link

   

One more vote and it's a done deal.

   

I've never had a problem with Bart. His views are diametrically opposed to mine on many issues, but he's a reasonable guy, he tries to explain is positions and he doesn't resort to flaming. His opinion can be influenced when presented with evidence contrary to his views, and likewise, he has influenced my thinking on a couple of issues in our discussions. He tries to be fair in his arguments, generally speaking.

He strikes me as a pretty high caliber person and a good man, and he's been a great addition to this site, overall.

That's just my two cents worth.

   

Actually, that would be the missus' comment.

And it's kind of funny how you're crying foul when you started that particular discussion with a veiled accusation of cowardice against the USA.

If you didn't want a flame war then why did you start one?

   

Your vile agenda, Bart, is arguing that there are no moderate, peace-loving Muslims, and then stating that warmongering, terrorist Muslims all deserve to die.

Not too difficult to read between the lines here: Essentially you hate 'em all, and you come to a Canadian site with the purpose of encouraging Canadians to hate their fellow Canadians if they're Muslim.

You have a hell of a nerve.

You perfectly fit the stereotype of the Ugly American.

"Cool Yankee" my ass.

   

I have noted that Bart’s enthusiasm for Muslim bashing has hit a crescendo in the last few months. Mind you that’s not a reaction entirely without warrant.

   

Likewise, I have learned a lot from you and I maintain that the Zen Master medal is rightfully yours.

The very proof of that is that you have repeatedly managed to get through to me.

   

   

If you were truly concerned about religion and it's negative effects on humanity you would be more willing to chastise the religion to which you belong. Yours is neither sacred or holy. Your country, more than most, has taken the morals and laws of Christianity and turned them to your usefulness. Since at least 1950 your America has done little more than worship the "Golden Idol" and the lives lost worldwide because of your countries supposed "Christian ethic" is abominable.

One might feel the Muslim religion to be antiquated but Christianity has turned itself inside out to the point where what it preaches and what it practices is two completely different things, at least when referencing the U.S. of A..

   

My comments about muslims so far have not been offensive to the muslims we've had on this site and I'm sure that's much to the chagrin of those who disagree with me. Granted, my opposition to them has offended them but I've consistently received high marks from them even as they assured me of a painful demise.

Oddly, I do recall Abbas taking my side one time against The Defenders of Islam because I was speaking on an islamic religious issue and had the appropriate take on it.

And I originally came to this site because someone on Free Republic had mentioned the site as a nest of flaming socialists and instead of just taking his word for it I had to go see for myself. While I drop in on FR periodically I've probably posted there maybe twenty times in the same amount of time I've posted here 12,000+ times.

I'm here because I like it here and because I get different points of view. Even yours.

There is nothing for me at FR except to have people ignorantly agree with me about islam in much the same manner you ignorantly disagree with me. Neither is particulary entertaining to me.

So where I was open minded enough to want to listen to people like Zip and Derby and The Hoser and even IceOwl and Avro perhaps you can be open minded enough to listen to my very simple request that you educate yourself about what you're defending.

I'm not even recommending a source as anything you learn from any source will be an improvement over where you are now. <<< this is not an insult, by the way.

Get your learn on and when you see me write some of this you'll inevitably disagree with me on some things but then on others you'll be like, "Yeah, I know that, too."

You may even get me to agree with you when you present information I don't know.

   

Zip said it better than I ever could.

   

Bart already has a Cool Yankie medal. Would having Uber Canuck be like having duel citizenship? I have no problems with it (although some here would) unless he is not a Canadian. I would think that was a prerequisite for an Uber Can. Medal.

On the point that he is not Canadian I have to vote no.

   

He says a lot of things better than a lot of us ever can. Which, of course, can be irritating as hell at times but you still love him never the less.

   

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