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Arctic Inca ... you are hopeless.

   

Agreed. Not all natives do that. But I was referring to Caledonia and I think both me and thee are on the same page on this one Arctic.

As I've stated, if the 6 Nations have an argument, court is the place to sort it and it should be sorted right now. Enough of this anarchy.

Scary stuff! I mean you and me agreeing!

   

It's the internet Saga, we can call ourselves whatever we want. I happen to think Brock was a good egg.

Iron workers? Give me a break! And the Taliban are hill farmers and goat herders.

I think negotiations with masked men who beat up old people and burn our National Flag are akin to negotiating with terrorists.

I realise there are two sides to this and the Ontario and Federal govts. are far from blameless here.

But this unchecked thuggery from the Mohawks is unexcusable, as is the lack of leadership from our wimpy Provincial government.

If 6 Nations have a case then they should be compensated, quickly. But thuggery should be punished, and those who have broken the law should be dealt with equally.

No blind eyes should be turned for the sake of pandering to special interest groups, even those with a noble history such as the 6 Nations.

Nobody should be above our laws, todays laws. Much harm to the First Nation's causes has been done in Caledonia.

   

IGNORANCE: Yes, iron workers ... Michael Laughing (did search and retrieval at 9/11), Clyde Powless and others. Have you never heard of the Mohawk iron workers? They are well known and respected. You are disrespectful in your ignorance of facts.

LIE: ... no old people were beat up by men ... two women ... one Indigenous (not Six Nations) and one DRUNK 73 year old white women had a cat fight, and guess who got charged?

LIE: NO flags were burned. You are wrong. This did not happen.
Kids cut the maple leaf out, though.

LIE (but it could be just IGNORANCE too): Provide evidence for 'unchecked thuggery', 'should be punished' and make sure you know who was charged and for what, because all incidents are now accounted for by the courts.

And you can bet your ass those same Mohawks who helped us become Canada are up there cheering for the home team now!! (fuIB is what they are saying.)

   

I'm well aware of Mohawk iron workers, there just weren’t any at Caledonia. Those were masked thugs defacing our flag and attacking old biddy’s.

Do you think you are the only person with any knowledge of our First Nations?

And actually on the 9th June 2006 an elderly couple were surrounded by 'protesters'.

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2006/06/ ... ought.html

I watched on CHCH tv as 'protesters' burnt the National Flag. I also saw defaced National Flags.

We have had US officers who were observing our 'response' to such disorder attacked and their vehicle stolen and driven at them.

I watched in shame as the OPP stood there and got hosed down by thug emboldened idiots.

All the incidents are accounted for? Are you real?
I have chums in the OPP and they are close to mutiny because they have been routinely ordered to ignore natives committing offences.

Saga, you are obviously well meaning but you really are wrong.

This is a gang of thugs acting like anarchists, and getting away with it, because that’s been happening for a few decades now, mainly due to a naïve and limp wristed response from our overly PC and gonad-less leaders.

People like you just perpetuate this shite state of affairs.

   

Let me be perfectly clear ... again:

If there had been no OPP raid ordered for April 20, it would have continued to be peaceful.

Yes, and THE OLD COUPLE WAS DRUNK (that's why they drove to the CH camera instead of the police ... or were they PAID to do that?)
and they had filthy racist mouths, had tried to run two people down. A native woman has been charged and is/was in custody, cos she and the old biddy got into it ... AND YOUR POINT IS ?? (excuse impatience ... I have repeated these facts ad nauseum on here)



Yes you did ... but THE FLAG BURNING HAPPENED AT A PROTEST IN TORONTO and had nothing to do with Six Nations. CHTV ran the two stories together rather suspiciously, and it appears it worked. Did you know that a CH staff has a close connection to a silent partner in the (former) Douglas Creek Estates?

Two Six Nations children did cut the maple leaf out of ONE flag.

(What is your link for? It relates to nothing you have said.)



Ya, I guess that was rather embarrassing for the OPP ... but ...What were they doing trying to 'escape' down Sixth Line? duh (charges laid, all in custody)



They were spraying the rabble of Caledonia, to get rid of the racist filth ... and it worked. Wasn't aimed at the police. An officer had been assaulted that evening. First actual arrest ... and a woman or was it just another 'breach of the peace' kaledonia cool out? The crowd was getting out of control, did not heed police, particularly 2-3 young men ... no respect. The waterworks was the most intelligent crowd control that happened all summer, and ended it peacefully. Wet people went home.



Last few months the OPP have been playing games with the timbits .... and it's costing a lot of taxpayer dollars for them to keep up the pretense that there is a problem in Caledonia, and of course they can count on the media to ASSUME it's Six Nations ... hell the media will even SAY it's Six Nations without being there ... I wonder who calls it in to them?

So unless you want to hear about the games cooked up for the timbits ... DON'T EVEN GO THERE!



No ... It's people like you who try to twist rumours into monsters where there are women asserting Aboriginal rights and men protecting them, and they have defended themselves when attacked or invaded.

Keep up with the news. All the incidents you are blowing out of proportion are already in the courts. The rest are the timbits playing games with the OPP ... "LET'S SEE HOW MUCH TAXPAYER MONEY WE CAN WASTE AND BLAME IT ON SIX NATIONS!

You went some places you shouldn't have gone, EyeB, because you didn't know where you were going. Be more careful. You like repeating the word thug over and over as if that will make it so ... it doesn't. Yes, iron workers ... family men ... protecting the women and children.

RESPECT THE LAND CLAIMS ... because that is what it is about
... and the government is trying to figure out a way to break the news
... and the OPP will be policing that too.

Unless the timbits are successful in calling in the US army.

   

PROVE IT!

   

That's what courts are for.

   

Nice proof. The Natives had an altercation with the old couple, and proceeded to beat a news reporter and a camera man, and take their Camera. Now why would they do that if it was the supposedly drunk person's fault? Ass-cactus.

   

Different issue: They won't allow CHTV to film them. CH was already censured a month or so earlier for showing a clip with white instigators faces blanked out but Haudenosaunee faces visible.

There was an altercation, for sure ... all charged and arrested now. Cameraman's injury, though, was accidentally caused by a police baton.

These incidents, and the ATF vehicle all happened in the same day, and the same person was involved in all incidents. He is awaiting trial.

None of this would have happened if there had been no order for a police raid on April 20.

NOTE Re the old couple ... An INNOCENT old couple would have stopped at the police line and requested assistance to stop the native harassers. The old couple (reportedly smelling like booze) drove past the police another 100 yards or so, in front of the CH cameraman who was filming. Draw your own conclusions.

These events that you refer to occurred in the aftermath of the OPP raid. There have been no serious incidents for several months, and ALL incidents have been initiated by the few militant and attention-seeking residents, and responded to by MANY OPP officers.

It is quite apparent to me that there is an effort to paint the Haudenosaunee as criminals, including nuisance calls, hoaxes, public mischief, and threat, intimidation and harassment of Six Nations supporters. Bias in the media supports these efforts, and also reflects their news sources. It is unclear whether the few militant residents are 'using' the police or vice versa, though it has also occurred to me that OPP may want the Cashedonia gravy train to continue.

   

The feeling is mutual, trust me...






You are correct. You and I are pretty much on the same page. Now if only saga could even get down onto a page, much less be able to read it or understand it...





Plus, it looks much better on your part if you don't resort to drastic measures before doing anything else.






Oh, we have agreed before, it's just that we don't always get along.

   

If you can actually PROVE that what EyeBrock said is a lie, then maybe we'll believe you.....

   

Perhaps the onus should be on the one levelling the accusations, not the ones being slandered, mmmmkay?

   

Starting ... but I will not be able to find proof of NO flag burning because there are no reports of something that DID NOT HAPPEN.

Mohawk Iron Workers

Voices of the Barricade: Clyde Powless, Michael Laughing

   

Key word in this sentence: SOME



Then explain to me how it came about? Numerous people don't get angry over something that didn't happen...

   

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