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Haven't been a girl in forty years ... woman, thanks.

I am happy to hear that the Indigenous people of Quebec have been so successful. It is Ontario's turn now ... time for Canada to honour their treaties, agreements, Royal Proclamations ... and the Canadian Constitution that protects them.

Lawless Canada has gotten away with it for hundreds of years. Time to honour the rule of law.

... and believe me ... there is no need for me to whine. ... just the facts...that's all you need ... see first post.

   

REGINA SAID:So by your own admission it was nothing like the Nazis at all, yet you've tried to link them together. It sounds good though when you're trying to make a point.




Hmmm ... death by whatever means is still death. A program of death and debasement against a race is still genocide ... for over 100 years and counting.

I have NOT tried to link them. People here have made that link to Hitler.

I was only quoting Duncan Campbell Scott, Superintendent of Indian Affairs Canada (1913-1932) ... who coined the phrase "final solution". Hitler apparently picked it up in 1933.

If you want to read the real DCS quotes ... see the link in the first post.

   

Somebody ... and many others .. like the United Nations who has Canada on nthe watch list..

Read then first post and link. then come on back and say what you think.

   

WOW!!! Good stuff!!! Once the trolls disappeared.

For all ya younguns ... have a listen to Youngblood.

Youngblood ... Haudenosaunee Six Nations... Native Youth Movement ... Warrior Alliance

... and for newbies to this thread ... Read first post and link. Tired of repeating myself, and stretching the bandwidth here. Thanks.
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Here's an experience you likely didn't have at 11 years old ... in about 1970:
At Grassy Narrows blockade (2003 ... and counting)
Another warrior, Charlie, 48, has a soft and slow voice that can be difficult to follow, but his stories are worth the effort. He was put in residential school at the age of seven and escaped several times, each time getting sent to a school further from home. Four years and six escapes later, he was in a school near Sault Ste-Marie, where the nuns beat him unconscious with hockey sticks. He still has the scars.

"I knew that if I stayed, they'd kill me, so I escaped again. I made it to Winnipeg [1,450 kilometres away] on foot through the bush, living off the land, fooling the police dogs in the woods. They didn't catch me that time until I was 21," he says. The other men his age have similar residential school stories. Nothing can happen to them in jail or in a gunfight that's worse than what already has.
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The Canadian government mandated, funded and supervised the schools, run by several different churches. The government doesn't want you to know. I do.

Nothing more they can do to us ... we have nothing to lose ... only to gain ... peacefully, if they will let us.
Haudenosaunee Six Nations Warrior, Six Nations blockade, April 2006

(just before they were raided by the OPP ... and they walked the OPP off the land)

   

You’re kidding right? You’re going to lecture to me on Canadian History? This should be good for some laughs, but let’s be honest, you’ve thrown out the name of the man whose actions in regards to residential schools is highly contentious, but what’s your sorry point? How is this related to National Socialism, Hitler, Himmler, systematic extermination and a cultural omission of the French strain of Enlightenment thinking (that’s big history, amateur, and it’s a theory in respect to German actions and the Holocaust)? So far, I’ve got nothing of substance from you. Back to Wiki U and go push you junk somewhere else.



Well…how quaint. Ritualistic cannibalism – it’s so savage chic. Run along now, and read something first next time.

   

I need to prove that Indian Affairs didn’t systematically plan to exterminate all Aboriginals in Canada? Are you fucking nuts? I’m not here to establish scholarly history – it’s in the books – quit being lazy and do your own research. Besides, you claimed that the final solution was not only instituted here but influenced Hitler, the National Socialists and the Wannsee Conference – the onus is on you, not me, to substantiate your erroneous claim

Oh…and because this is predictably how the rank amateurs peddle revisionist history, I’ll give you a little help – just giving me a quote that contains the same word doesn’t render it a part of some universal lexicon. Were residential schools agents of assimilation? Yes. Did Scott and other members of the Department seek to marginalize and culturally quash Aboriginals? Yes. Was it racist? Yep. Was it on par with the actions of Hitler and his state-sanctioned acts that were designed to eradicate groups of people? No. This is not a historical parallel (I’m not defending the residential schools, but I do object to revisionist studies) and no amount of misrepresentation of primary sources will alter that.



Actually, just for the record, you wrote, “The "final solution", made infamous by Hitler, was first invented and used in Canada against Indigenous people.”

Sorry. Go peddle your lies somewhere else

Besides, perhaps you’d like to explain how one references the Final Solution without acknowledging Hitler’s participation?



Please show us the tangible, irrefutable evidence that clearly shows Hitler not only borrowed the term directly from Scott, but interpreted it to mean systematic extermination. Thanks. While you’re at it, look up Adolf Eichmann as this tends to throw a major wrench in your silly assertion.

Also, you may want to explain why Goering and Heydrich (the practical architects of the Final Solution) actually referred to initially as the “complete solution to the Jewish Question” whereas others Reich ministries referred to it as the “radical solution”. I’ll look for your esteemed commentary on these

It would appear that you don’t know squat about the Holocaust, its ideology, its machinery or its historiography. Go read a book.



Revisionist bunk! Of course, Canada was racist – is this supposed to be surprising? Damn, I hope you aren’t hinging your argument on this rather flimsy bit. Some in Canada were racist. Some in the United States were racist. Some in Great Britain were racist. So? Welcome to the wonderful milieu of 1930s Western civilization (you also left out eugenics, Social Darwinism and fascism) Did it stop us from volunteering to sacrifice ourselves to save innocent people from the totalitarian hordes that were overrunning Europe? Did we not go to war to save others?

Did we take Jews after the Nuremberg Law promulgation or Kristallnacht? No…we could’ve done more. But, the Final Solution hadn’t begun yet, so we didn’t consciously help with the extermination. Nice try – push your bigotry somewhere else



I know my history; it’s you I’m concerned about.

   

No it's not the same at all. You linked the two in you very first post by using the term Final Solution which is a common when describing the Holocaust and Hitler. Then you claimed Hitler apperently took on that term from him in 1933. Do you have any proof that Hitler took this term from Canada in English and translated it to German then started using it? Sound like a great story if you've got something direct to back it up.

As far as Duncan Scott's quote, you've set up links to an agenda driven web sites. Hardly good accurate history that we are supposed to believe as fact. Do you have the source for the quote that you can pass on or just that one?

As far as the residential schools, the kids I met were in Catholic schools and residence. Shouldn't their abuse claims be directed at the Vatican, just as the ones from the white boys have been?

   

Well Scooter I'm not sure what brought this on. Is it that I dared question your internet web site with a serious question?

You'll be waiting a long time. That's like me calling you an idiot and having you prove otherwise. You haven't linked to anything but a website on the internet. I can give you a few links to the Holocaust deniers which amount to the same thing.

   

S/He wouldn't let the truth get in the way of this racist rant.

   

I am not interested in your slasher debating style. Topic is here for information and discussion, not fodder for your egos. It is a heads up about a calamity that is about to befall Canada: Genocide will be exposed, and we will have to give them their land back.

Duncan Campbell Scott coined the Phrase to describe Canada's approach to dealing with Indigenous people: Get rid of them quietly so nobody notices ... as many as possible ... all. Canada made treaties it never intended to nhonour, because there weren't supposed to be any 'Indians' left to reclaim the land.

The link in the first post contains two quotes from DCS which make this VERY clear, and a quote also about WHY ... so Canada could take the land out of the hands of the 'Indians'.
There is also a historical timeline that lays the path out clearly.

Kevin Annett wrote Hidden from History, info available on the net, which contains first hand accounts of one school in BC. CBC did a movie called Butterbox Babies about MANY native babies being murdered at birth ... because they were born of rape at the school in Nova Scotia. Charlie's story (above) comes from Northern Ontario. Other survivor stories are available on the net, from observers of murders, etc. Based on a government report of the death rates in the schools across Canada, Annett estimated that 50,000 childeren "went missing" in the residential schools. Their families know who they are.

Government of Canada mandated, funded and supervised the residential schools across Canada. The churches ran them ... Catholic, United and Anglican. Churches are being sued and are paying. Government has not ... but hopes to get away with a paltry payout and a non-apology.

As far as Hitler is concerned ... I could care less.I am trying to let Canadians know ... we have a happening coming, folks!

Cos we did not get rid of them and they want their land back and they have the legal documents to prove it is ALL theirs.

Do your own research ya slugs ... for people apparently (?) schooled in history, you know little of this ... crap, even my mother knows this ... and most Canadians over 70 or so. Not even curious?

DENY ... DENY ... DENY ... if you so choose ... but you might want to get some title insurance for your property.

   

Is it just me or does this idiot appear to be doing alot of talking to himself?

   

I usually let them sink themselves.... I funnier this way... the good old passive agressive way.

   

Translation: you’re not interested in debate. Go push your asinine junk somewhere else. You’ve been schooled here



Nope – it’s a propagating an agenda. I exposed your amateur pigswill, and you’ve run like a coward from my salient question. They were diagnostic and they certainly illustrated well your ignorance. Go peddle your revisionist bunk somewhere else.



Kevin Annett is pushing an agenda. That explains why his conclusion is ahistorical mush. It’s not genocide – there’s no state-sponsored systemic method of extermination, but I’ll grant you there was cultural assimilation and culpability in some deaths. It’s not on par with Hitler’s Final Solution. You’ve done nothing to substantiate that far-fetched supposition. Move on.



Nice admission that you were initially concerned with Hitler – evidently in addition to be a crappy historian, you’re also a disingenuous fake.


Practice what you preach, fucktard. You haven’t demonstrated that you even possess a basic understanding of your own junk, so take your hypocritical garbage and stuff it.



Why? You and your little delusional, infantile agenda won’t amount to much. Run along now, as the adults have grown tired of your antics.

   

That’s a good strategy, but personally, I can’t sit idly by while some nothing dumps on Canada with revisionist garbage. This goof is merely a parrot pushing a contemporary agenda, so they’re easily dealt with. Besides, it’s always fun to expose other’s ignorance and then wait for the meltdown.

   

Well now I know you are full of shit........Reading what you posted above there....and then read what you posted below.



Hmmmm are ya Native or are you whitey.....seems to me that you dont even fucking know....or better yet seems to me like you are lying for some reason or other...or lake thereof. Now kindly go fuck a goat.

   

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