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Thank you. I'm not sure what you guys think sex ed is in schools, but usually it's either A) The most boring week of gym class, or B) The most immature week of science class. You learn some basic parts of the human anatomy, and then how babies are born. And, if you're truly cursed, they'll show a baby being born to disturb you. After that, the entire subject is ignored, and you either A) Go back to playing dodgeball, or B) go back to studying the different types of rocks.

   

So you drive your daughter around.

Have a cookie and kick back content with the sheer awesomeness of your parenting...

   

I took it in a couple different highschools. It never scarred me, and in reality it wasn't that much that I didn't know already. I don't think religious people will lose out much if they skip it, but I don't think it would hurt for them to attend.

   

I believe the child giving birth happened in grade six, which was Middle School where I was attending, then I took it again in grade...11, which was just as dull, but less disturbing. I agree that it would not hurt any religious person to attend, but, I respect the decision if they want sex ed to be taught in their own way.

   

Your personal interest in the subject when it was taught is irrelevant - the fact that a child remains ignorant of portion of the curriculum should be reflected in their grade. If you sat on the bench for dodgeball because you thought it was boring, you would presumably get a lower physical education grade than if you participated.

   

   

It is, it'll probably be marked as N/A in the small section in their report card, and then nobody cares after that. If you want to expand sexual education to become a larger portion of the curriculum, fine, but as of right now, the educational benefit of said class is near nil, with most of it being taught in general science class anyway.

The kid remains ignorant of the specific terms of the genitial areas of the male and female body, so unless they're going to become a gynecologist. I really don't see the impact. But, let's go your way, and say they fail whatever assignments relating to sex ed, since that will be maybe 3 assignments and a quiz after that week, their grade might suffer 1% overall in general science class, or general gym class.

   

and.........?

I assume you feel I was trying to advocate measures more drastic than that - I'm not. They'll have some minor blemish on their report card and that's it (aside from the secondary effects they'll face from a worldview based on willful ignorance).

I agree it's no big deal if some religious nut (or poor kid with religious nut parents) doesn't learn about science in science class, or about health in health class; they just stay ignorant and the world will move on around them.

   

I don't think learning ends at the classroom door, but learning doesn't even begin at the classroom door. If you weren't so busy insulting everyone, you would have noticed.

Read my original post again. The teacher told me that it was MY responsibility to "teach" my daughter to read. Making sure homework is completed and actually teaching are two different things. Perhaps I can get her teacher to do my job in the evenings.

   

Pot this is kettle...

   

Here's a summary of your past few comments Gunnair.....

"Pot this is kettle..."

"So you drive your daughter around.

Have a cookie and kick back content with the sheer awesomeness of your parenting... '


You're amazing Skippy. I don't know how anyone can possibly compete with your superior debating skills. You obviously know everything there is to know about parenting and teaching so they may as well close down this thread as you have managed to singlehandedly solve all of Canada's academic problems. Or as you put it; what problems?

Dismissing my active involvement in my daughters life as simply "driving her around" is quite simply insulting. Especially considering for what passes as "parenting" these days.

I take pride in making sure that my two daughters are brought up with high morals and social skills. I teach them to have empathy and to respect others. It's too bad your parents didn't do the same.

Have a great day!

   

It's unfortunate you seem to be so blind to the hypocrisy of your argument. You have no issues dismissing arguments and stances you don't happen to agree with, tossing about insulting barbs, and complaining about disrespect when you've shown none.

Apparently mine weren't the only ones with parenting issues...

PS Thanks, I did have a great day.

   

If you weren't so busy blaming teachers for the problems your children have you would have noticed I said you should:


Now, if that curriculum says "parents should teach children to read" than I would say you are correct. and


If it says the teachers should be teaching the "little topic" of reading than you yourself are wrong and to blame. Good luck with that. Teachers report on a regular basis to the parents in those things called "report cards", or "progress reports." If you watch your kids, read with them and listen to what they tell you and how they read than you should be well aware of how well your kid is doing. If it isn't as good as you feel it should be than it is up to you to take action. My grade 2 grandaughter comes home after gymnastics and spends her evening telling us what happened in school that day. Sometimes I have to hold my tongue when she relates some oversimplified explanation of some science thingie, but she is only in grade 2.

Learning is a process between student and teacher and parent. Cut out one of these and the process fails. If the student does not want to learn, or the teacher is not able to give grades that actually reflect the students progress (usually due to parents intervening) or parents don't do their part than the whole process breaks down. Good luck!

   

But listen, the world won't see anything about skipping sex ed. That's what you're advocating. The worst is they might suffer a 1 or 2% drop in mark, which statistically means nothing. If the kid did well on everything else, he'll still end up with a B or an A- or something. You're sounding like the high school report card actually states he didn't attend sex ed, which does not happen.



Sigh, first off, I don't believe in the evolution crap that's going on, but there are things you must know about general high school. The "Health" class is an alternative to gym, usually for people who hate gym. It teaches nutrition and shit like that, and in both gym and health classes, sex ed takes about 1 week of the semester. Thus, it really has little effect on the mark. You're making it sound like there's some great insight in these classes, there is not. The fact you think anybody will become ignorant if they do not attend said sex ed class probably shows your bias against religious parents/families, or just the lack of memory of what is taught in said class.

   

No, it's not. I specifically said they should lose the marks associated with that portion of the curriculum, and I didn't recommend anything else. In fact, someone else suggested a little note on the report card, and I explicitly disagreed.On top of that, I've already assured you in the last post that I'm not talking about some sort of special note on their report card. You should actually read what I wrote if you want to have a discussion.

Again, it's irrelevant whether you think it's boring or insignificant - learning about the Treaty of Paris in History is an equally minor part of a child's entire education, but if they don't learn the material, they don't get credit for it. Their mark will decrease by some small degree, but that's how the education system works, and that's the only fair solution to this issue.

   

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