Bill under attack for catering to right-wing parents
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Blue_Nose @ Tue May 19, 2009 11:54 am
jeez, they're still talking about this?
The solution is simple - absolutely let parents decide how much their kids go to school, and let them keep their children from learning certain topics if they please. There should be no special privileges when it comes to testing and grading, though - if they skip the class on evolution or sex education and fail the test, it should be reflected on their report card.
Nobody's forced to compromise their superstitious beliefs, and they don't get a free pass because of them - fair for everyone.
jason700 @ Tue May 19, 2009 12:01 pm
Maybe parents that have a problem with evolution should keep their kids out of biology altogether. At what age can the kid make the choice for him/herself?
mtbr @ Tue May 19, 2009 12:06 pm
jason700 jason700:
Maybe parents that have a problem with evolution should keep their kids out of biology altogether. At what age can the kid make the choice for him/herself?
Same goes with those who don't want religious education, stay out of religious schools.
Zipperfish @ Tue May 19, 2009 12:39 pm
Wally_Sconce Wally_Sconce:
I don't support the teachers that want to promote homosexuality yet are offended by the lord's prayer.
maybe they could combine the two somehow.
fifeboy @ Tue May 19, 2009 12:40 pm
Blue_Nose Blue_Nose:
jeez, they're still talking about this?
The solution is simple - absolutely let parents decide how much their kids go to school, and let them keep their children from learning certain topics if they please. There should be no special privileges when it comes to testing and grading, though - if they skip the class on evolution or sex education and fail the test, it should be reflected on their report card.
Nobody's forced to compromise their superstitious beliefs, and they don't get a free pass because of them - fair for everyone.
Excellent idea. I can see the transcripts now. Applying to university or a job....Refused to take Evolution classes, taught myth in place of science. Applying for NRC grant. Good luck.
The solution is simple - absolutely let parents decide how much their kids go to school, and let them keep their children from learning certain topics if they please. There should be no special privileges when it comes to testing and grading, though - if they skip the class on evolution or sex education and fail the test, it should be reflected on their report card.
Nobody's forced to compromise their superstitious beliefs, and they don't get a free pass because of them - fair for everyone.
fifeboy @ Tue May 19, 2009 12:42 pm
jason700 jason700:
Maybe parents that have a problem with evolution should keep their kids out of biology altogether. At what age can the kid make the choice for him/herself?
What if I don't believe God invented writing and therefore reading and writing is part of Satan's plan for us??
Blue_Nose @ Tue May 19, 2009 12:47 pm
fifeboy fifeboy:
Excellent idea. I can see the transcripts now. Applying to university or a job....Refused to take Evolution classes, taught myth in place of science. Applying for NRC grant. Good luck.
Well, I'm not actually advocating that it be highlighted in their transcript, just that they're penalized for being ignorant of curriculum material the same way the delinquents that skip math class are penalized when they fail the tests.
fifeboy @ Tue May 19, 2009 12:56 pm
Blue_Nose Blue_Nose:
Well, I'm not actually advocating that it be highlighted in their transcript, just that they're penalized for being ignorant of curriculum material the same way the delinquents that skip math class are penalized when they fail the tests.
So don't go to class, but still be tested on it. I like that too. And you are right, someone skips the classes on matrices it's not taken off their exam.
HyperionTheEvil @ Tue May 19, 2009 1:27 pm
fifeboy fifeboy:
Blue_Nose Blue_Nose:
Well, I'm not actually advocating that it be highlighted in their transcript, just that they're penalized for being ignorant of curriculum material the same way the delinquents that skip math class are penalized when they fail the tests.
So don't go to class, but still be tested on it. I like that too. And you are right, someone skips the classes on matrices it's not taken off their exam.I agree, if you're a 'sinner' you can learn about the world, science, evoloution and technology in school. If you're a religious type you can learn about the world in the Mosque, church or whatever. We'll see he graduates high school and gets into university
HyperionTheEvil @ Tue May 19, 2009 1:28 pm
sandorski sandorski:
Smile, Gravity Loves You! 
At least it has more usefulness tham religion does
jason700 @ Tue May 19, 2009 1:43 pm
I agree, no special treatment for being religious. Curriculum stays the same, if you miss classes and fail, it's your parents fault.
Apollo @ Tue May 19, 2009 7:27 pm
fifeboy fifeboy:
Apollo Apollo:
$1:
The teachers have to follow certain guidelines. Choices or not, kids need that exposure.
Sometimes parents breed far too much of their own ignorance and hatred in their children. Children need the exposure sometimes to dissipate that.
Sometimes parents breed far too much of their own ignorance and hatred in their children. Children need the exposure sometimes to dissipate that.
You are making the false assumption that teachers are full of wisdom and parents are full of ignorance. Do you not understand that teachers and parents are sometimes one and the same?
My daughter is 6 years old and I was told by her teacher that it was my responsibility to teach her how to read. All she does at school is play. Its become a glorified daycare system.
Secondly, my cousin who is 16 has been passed along his whole life. I am not exaggerating when I tell you that he reads at a grade 3 level. (This is not an isolated case in Toronto)None of his teachers have ever taken responsibility to help him. They just keep passing him in the hopes that next years teacher will pick up the ball.
So much for "teaching".
I take my daughter to ballet, dance, swimming lessons and soccer. Don't give me the bullshit line of so much for parenting. If teachers are not there to "teach" then whats the point of their job exactly Sherlock?
fifeboy @ Tue May 19, 2009 9:27 pm
Apollo Apollo:
I take my daughter to ballet, dance, swimming lessons and soccer. Don't give me the bullshit line of so much for parenting. If teachers are not there to "teach" then whats the point of their job exactly Sherlock?
Dear Sun God thingie Dude.
Teachers are there to teach, yes, but you are an idiot if you feel that learning ends at the classroom door. Without parents to make sure homework is done and with parents that scream bloody murder when a student is failed, no learning takes place.
Yours truely
Sherlock.
P.S. Check out the curriculum for your Province. If you don't like it than you, as a voter, should try to get it changed.
commanderkai @ Tue May 19, 2009 10:09 pm
jason700 jason700:
I agree, no special treatment for being religious. Curriculum stays the same, if you miss classes and fail, it's your parents fault.
Which makes perfect sense since that's how it is now, the only difference is that they don't get an one week lesson on sex ed, which nobody pays attention to and there's no test for either way! Problem solved.
RUEZ @ Tue May 19, 2009 10:14 pm
commanderkai commanderkai:
jason700 jason700:
I agree, no special treatment for being religious. Curriculum stays the same, if you miss classes and fail, it's your parents fault.
Which makes perfect sense since that's how it is now, the only difference is that they don't get an one week lesson on sex ed, which nobody pays attention to and there's no test for either way! Problem solved.
Sounds reasonable.
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