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Your right of course. I admit to being foolish at times too.

   

I am not religious but i am against abortion.

   

And I am religious but am for the right of a woman to choose.

   

AND I am NOT religious but am for the right of a woman to choose.

Any other views here?

   

I'm not religious at all, but I'm pro-choice. Though, I also feel that much more more needs to be done so that abortions are performed as little as possible.

   

Good point!

   

I'd agree with you xerxes. Ive been confounded for years with regard to teen pregnancy. Back in the early sixties, before birth control pills and such if there were a half dozen teen pregnancies a year in my small town. Since the pill through the roof.

Perhaps it makes it easier for girls to trick guys into unsuspected fatherhood...

   

As the pro-lifers all pile into their pre-owned vehicles to gather at the Reformed Church and fill the collection plate to help the downsized...

   

catch the copyright: "Reproduction rights obtainable from.."

   

I'm not religious but I'm pro-life. I'm also against the death penalty as well just to prove that an atheist can remain consistent.

My reasons are as follows:

1) Abortion's led to a demographic disaster for the West, and forced us to accept immigration from undesirable and incompatible parts of the world in order to fill the spaces that would have been taken by destroyed babies had they been allowed to live.
2) Abortion is a clear and obvious symptom of a recklessly selfish hedonistic culture, and all hedonistic cultures are essentially destructive and suicidal. And yes, despite the lies of the Christian right wing, atheists can also be anti-hedonist.
3) Killing innocents in the name of little more than convenience is philosophically repulsive on all levels of ethics and morality. The tacit acceptance of abortion for convenience scares me to death about what will happen in the future when we're encountered by things, for example, like wide-scale human cloning. If fetuses are disposible what then will happen to human clones, self-aware or not? Are they to be regarded as humans fully deserving of rights and legal protection or are they merely disposable as well, and their exploitation or destruction is to be met without even the slightest shrug?
4) Don't believe in the slippery-slope argument? Well, look no further than the Netherlands where an abortion-accepting hedonist culture now euthanizes old and sick people (even without their consent) all in the name of convenience. Aside from the Nazi Holocaust, or the genocides committed by Communists around the world, there has been nothing as effective as abortion in enabling the dehumanization of the inconvenient or the so-called "undesireable". Next to the practical extermination of native peoples in the Americas, I can't think of a single other series of actions or a philosophy that is such a stain of dishonour on all the ideals of the West.
5) Big people are supposed to protect little people. It doesn't get much simpler than that.

For the record, just so no one can nail me on it later, I would have supported massive state intervention (i.e. government-sponsored child care, closely supervised orphanage systems, expansion of child care benefits, etc.) if it would mean the end of abortion. I also fully support most forms of alternate birth control as well just to confirm that I'm not some religious nut who goes into a frenzy over the idea of out-of-wedlock sinners fucking each other.

   

A wise woman told me something once that I take to heart.

"A woman only gets an abortion because she feels unloved and without support"

I think we as a society need to be ashamed myself included in talking about protecting life but failing to let the reality sink in that we have lives in front of us worth protecting. Those of any woman who has been left in the cold, raped, knocked up, or faced with the reality of having to raise a child with special needs.

It would be lying to say that if I was the father in any of the above situations that I would not be torn in terms of my feelings for the child but what's worse is that I allow that uncertainty to get in the way of loving and supporting the life of the woman in front of me.

None of us should even need to be the father to understand the basic fact of what hurt is caused in our everyday lives when we are placed in such situations.

I could talk about how I believe in the special gift of life and it's preservation. I could speak to the volumes of women that have come out about how much getting an abortion has let deep emotional scars but to tell the truth I just can't because of one simple thing.

I have failed to go beyond my comfort zone to reach out and try to touch these women in need in their hour of needed support. We all have or no woman should feel the need to have to consider such a drastic act as having an abortion.

Instead I would like to present a challenge to myself and to all here pro-life or pro-choice. Next time we see anyone in any of these situations rather then debate about the theatrics of when life begins or ends let's just show a little love. Surely Love can do no harm.

   

We don't see very many Jewish or Muslim groups hanging out in front of abortion clinics.

   

I'm not pro-life, but I think Obama is going too fast for a conservative nation such as America.

Why is he funding foreign abortion movements? Each country has its own ethos regarding abortion, some pro, some against. In countries where 90%+ the population is Catholic for example we cannot expect there to be liberal attitudes in regards to abortion.

However, it goes both ways, the religious movements sometimes must throw a mouthpiece on themselves. The Pope's condom fiasco in Angola was a disaster for the Catholic church and Angolan catholics.

   

Because if someone can't have an abortion on their own country, they shouldn't be punished for having one somewhere else.

   

Condom fiasco? I have seen no fallout from any of the Pope's statements in that regard.

   

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