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David Suzuki ripped in Australia for being a “phony and know

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DrCaleb @ Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:45 am

Thanos Thanos:
DrCaleb DrCaleb:
PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:
I am??? That's news to me. Perhaps you can freshen my memory as to what ridiculous religious claims I'm willing to accept.


I remember, I had a question for you! A little off topic, but let me ask while I remember - I'm trying to weld some aluminum (6061) suspension parts to the frame of a car with 1330 alloy steel. Since they both alloys have Magnesium in the blend; should I use a stick welder with an iron/magnesium blend, or an aluminum/magnesium blend?

Or should I use a TIG welder?


TIG. Always use TIG on aluminum.

Ever played with MIG on aluminum? It blazes fast but makes the weirdest and most off-putting sound I ever heard. Kind of an aural equivalent of biting down on tin foil. 8O


See, I know that you know about welding. I though adding 'stick welder' might get you to grit your teeth. ;)

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:
Nothing "odd" about cottoning to the fact that 95% of 33% is not a consensus.


Since PA9 likes to use a 'reverse' appeal from authority; demanding that the 67% of scientists that do things like study bacterial growth or measure the different changes that elements display when subjected to intense pressures, they all must agree with their colleagues who study climate in order for there to be a 'true climate change theory'. Otherwise, there was no theory. (Appeal from authority)

I thought since PA9 knows nothing (at least I recall nothing) about welding, that he might also like to leap to some conclusions about a subject he has not studied and knows nothing about. Given that it would only be my life and the lives of people around me in his hands if he was wrong.

No pressure.

   



N_Fiddledog @ Tue Oct 01, 2013 11:07 am

DrCaleb DrCaleb:
I speak English, a little French, German and Russian. I've never heard of this language, "Prog".


Very few have. It's kind of unfortunate, because few have heard of it but more speak it every day. It's kind of like Newspeak spoken with a Bill Maher smug accent. Nobody thinks they went to the Frankfurt school, but everybody's in it.

Weather is climate in Prog, except when its cold, then you sneer at the idiot who confuses the two. Pollution means toxic except when you want it to mean causes warm weather, then pollution means the weather is nicer this year than it was last, and that's going to kill you, and you're to blame. Suzuki says you have become a tenth level maggot by being human, and insinuates that when you exhale CO2 you pollute the universe - but just you, not him. When he exhales flowers bloom and the little birdies sing is the message you're to be left with. That's Prog.

   



Thanos @ Tue Oct 01, 2013 11:23 am

DrCaleb DrCaleb:
Thanos Thanos:
DrCaleb DrCaleb:
I remember, I had a question for you! A little off topic, but let me ask while I remember - I'm trying to weld some aluminum (6061) suspension parts to the frame of a car with 1330 alloy steel. Since they both alloys have Magnesium in the blend; should I use a stick welder with an iron/magnesium blend, or an aluminum/magnesium blend?

Or should I use a TIG welder?


TIG. Always use TIG on aluminum.

Ever played with MIG on aluminum? It blazes fast but makes the weirdest and most off-putting sound I ever heard. Kind of an aural equivalent of biting down on tin foil. 8O


See, I know that you know about welding. I though adding 'stick welder' might get you to grit your teeth. ;)


All the old terms are still there. Say GTAW, GMAW, SMAW or something else at some old cowboy rig welder and he'll look at you like you're some kind of crazy person. 8)

I still find welding fascinating. It was a lot of fun back in school when we got to play with the tools. Still got a couple of physical reminders too, like the dead patch on the back of my hand where all the hair got permanently destroyed when I accidentally brushed it against a hot pipe we were sub-arcing in class, as well as the bump of hardened skin on my palm where a TIG arc struck me for a nano-second. I always regretted not getting a ticket but then again I don't mind not having to throw myself down on a filthy shop floor or onto the bottom of a muddy ditch the way the welders have to. My knees are already shot from doing inspection so adding all the other trauma in there from welding doesn't seem like so much fun anymore. Had some good times with mostly good people over the last 20 years or so. Much better and more satisfying at the end of the day than the usual back-stabbing and daily betray-a-thon that working in offices with the managers always seems to turn into.

   



DrCaleb @ Tue Oct 01, 2013 11:24 am

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:
DrCaleb DrCaleb:
I speak English, a little French, German and Russian. I've never heard of this language, "Prog".


Very few have. It's kind of unfortunate, because few have heard of it but more speak it every day. It's kind of like Newspeak spoken with a Bill Maher smug accent. Nobody thinks they went to the Frankfurt school, but everybody's in it.

Weather is climate in Prog, except when its cold, then you sneer at the idiot who confuses the two. Pollution means toxic except when you want it to mean causes warm weather, then pollution means the weather is nicer this year than it was last, and that's going to kill you, and you're to blame. Suzuki says you become a tenth level maggot when you exhale CO2 and pollute the universe - but just you, not him. When he exhales flowers bloom and the little birdies sing. That's Prog.


Ah! Kind of like Rap, where 'bad' is 'good', 'ho' means 'rake' and 'Ni**er' means 'friend'. (Unless you are a white female chef and only said it 10 years ago once in court.)

I do not like this new language, 'Prog'. I like English, where 'beer' means 'beer' and 'Davenport' means 'Chesterfield' and when I park my ass on the couch with a beer it means [B-o] , not that I want to 'fluff pillows' at Target with Sevrin Suzuki.

I don't know why people even care what a TV narrator thinks anyway. If I want to know about fruit flies, I'll ask Doctor Suzuki. If I want to know about Climate, I'll ask a Climatologist.

   



DrCaleb @ Tue Oct 01, 2013 11:33 am

Thanos Thanos:
DrCaleb DrCaleb:
Thanos Thanos:
TIG. Always use TIG on aluminum.

Ever played with MIG on aluminum? It blazes fast but makes the weirdest and most off-putting sound I ever heard. Kind of an aural equivalent of biting down on tin foil. 8O


See, I know that you know about welding. I though adding 'stick welder' might get you to grit your teeth. ;)


All the old terms are still there. Say GTAW, GMAW, SMAW or something else at some old cowboy rig welder and he'll look at you like you're some kind of crazy person. 8)

I still find welding fascinating. It was a lot of fun back in school when we got to play with the tools. Still got a couple of physical reminders too, like the dead patch on the back of my hand where all the hair got permanently destroyed when I accidentally brushed it against a hot pipe we were sub-arcing in class, as well as the bump of hardened skin on my palm where a TIG arc struck me for a nano-second. I always regretted not getting a ticket but then again I don't mind not having to throw myself down on a filthy shop floor or onto the bottom of a muddy ditch the way the welders have to. My knees are already shot from doing inspection so adding all the other trauma in there from welding doesn't seem like so much fun anymore. Had some good times with mostly good people over the last 20 years or so. Much better and more satisfying at the end of the day than the usual back-stabbing and daily betray-a-thon that working in offices with the managers always seems to turn into.


I hear you. I know a couple welders who got their tickets, got bank loans, bought a truck and portable welding rig, bid on a few pipeline contracts and retired as millionaires at 30. But it was a long, hard road to get there.

I posted a wreck of a Porsche 944 in the Car thread a little while ago that had the back axel ripped off, and I was actually helping that guy put the car back together. I have a few burns from dripping slag too, because I was too lazy to put the leathers on. ;)

It's just so neat, being able to melt metal - but not too much! And get the liquid to form back into solid metal . . .

   



Lemmy @ Tue Oct 01, 2013 11:46 am

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:
That's Prog.

Thing is, prog's already taken. You need to find a new term for your craziness:

   



BartSimpson @ Tue Oct 01, 2013 11:55 am

http://www.dailytech.com/After+Missing+ ... e33457.htm

After Missing 5 Predictions, IPCC Cuts Global Warming Forecast

$1:
the upcoming 2,000 page summary on climate change research and predictions -- scheduled to be released Monday -- begrudgingly acknowledges that for the past decade and a half warming has essentially flat-lined.


So to all of the AGW bandwagoneers here I ask: Are you now going to tell me that the IPCC itself is a bunch of deniers because they, too, recognize that no actual warming has taken place for fifteen years?

Hmmm? :idea:

   



N_Fiddledog @ Tue Oct 01, 2013 12:14 pm

Lemmy Lemmy:
N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:
That's Prog.

Thing is, prog's already taken. You need to find a new term for your craziness:


Actually the term prog was used before Prog rock adopted it. It's possible they don't know the true meaning though. It started out referring to the regressives who prefer to call or think of themselves as Progressives politically, but the definition has broadened to the point you notice progs among such varied sources as hecklers and internet trolls. I've never been able to sit through more than a few bars of Prog rock myself. Is it more regressive than progressive? Is it about insulting, hating on, and tearing down what's functional to replace it with an inferior bit of useless nonsense offering no factual, or reasonable motivation while you crazily, and hatefully insult or tear down everybody who responds to you by calling them haters, insulters, or crazies? If it is it's just part of the larger phenomena called Prog.

   



BartSimpson @ Tue Oct 01, 2013 12:34 pm

NF, here's something useful for you:

$1:

proglodyte

1. (accurate) term of abuse/contempt/description for an unthinkingly reflexive and personally unpleasant leftist shit-thrower. A diagnostic term, to distinguish the over-medicated NPR-listener, the slobbering burn-out druggie, the perpetual undergraduate, and other leftist menagerie members from their most vocal exemplar.

That LVQ is such a fucking proglodyte, he thinks mass-murder is a small price to pay for carbon offsets.

Goddamned proglodyte motherfuckers trashed campus GOP offices, then bitched about police brutality when they got busted.



2. A confused and suspicious urban being that believes the only way to compensate for their lack of common sense is to exert an unreasonable amount of control over their fellow citizens.

See also, Politics, Progressive, George Orwell and Joseph Stalin.

Martina was shocked to find out that there was a church in her neighborhood, so she telephoned her network of Proglodytes and they all agreed to burn it down so the church members wouldn't promote hate mongering.

   



N_Fiddledog @ Tue Oct 01, 2013 12:43 pm

The thing is you have to be careful, because Progism is like a virus it infects everywhere and everything so Progs turn up in places you don't expect them claiming to be something else.

I know of this one poor dolt who has completely succumbed to the disease, but seems to believe he's a Libertarian. You want to laugh, but that's not kind.

   



Zipperfish @ Tue Oct 01, 2013 12:52 pm

BartSimpson BartSimpson:
http://www.dailytech.com/After+Missing+5+Predictions+IPCC+Cuts+Global+Warming+Forecast/article33457.htm

After Missing 5 Predictions, IPCC Cuts Global Warming Forecast

$1:
the upcoming 2,000 page summary on climate change research and predictions -- scheduled to be released Monday -- begrudgingly acknowledges that for the past decade and a half warming has essentially flat-lined.


So to all of the AGW bandwagoneers here I ask: Are you now going to tell me that the IPCC itself is a bunch of deniers because they, too, recognize that no actual warming has taken place for fifteen years?

Hmmm? :idea:


No wamring in 15 years? What are you talking about?

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BartSimpson @ Tue Oct 01, 2013 1:13 pm

That's your High Priests at the IPCC talking, not me. :wink:

   



PluggyRug @ Tue Oct 01, 2013 1:19 pm

BartSimpson BartSimpson:
That's your High Priests at the IPCC talking, not me. :wink:


One would wonder if the High Priests at the IPCC will be offered canonization.

   



Thanos @ Tue Oct 01, 2013 2:38 pm

More like the high priests there, and the high priests everywhere else for that matter, should all be shot off the ends of cannons on general principles alone.

   



Zipperfish @ Tue Oct 01, 2013 2:40 pm

Thanos Thanos:
More like the high priests there, and the high priests everywhere else for that matter, should all be shot off the ends of cannons on general principles alone.


Let's just use the Bible instead of science. Go back to bleeding people. Unless you're part of that so-called "consensus" that goes in for that germ theory. :lol:

   



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