Canada Kicks Ass
ELECTION 2021 - Trudeau calls federal election


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herbie @ Wed Aug 25, 2021 10:34 am

Harper kept his foot on the same idiots his whole term. Let them blow off steam passing a crime bill every 24 hours, I'm sure he knew the Courts would overturn them an he'd be blameless.
The he stopped once the election was called. Bye bye Stevey...


DrCaleb @ Wed Aug 25, 2021 10:44 am

But Harper gave us Maxime Bernier! :lol:


herbie @ Wed Aug 25, 2021 12:25 pm

Good. He'll bleed off some of the loony support.
I don't mind actual Conservatives, my sister's whole family votes that way because they're Krisschuns that have to even if every opinion they have is left of Liberal....


Scape @ Wed Aug 25, 2021 12:49 pm


Scape @ Wed Aug 25, 2021 12:58 pm

Here is the full interview:

O'Toole = Private health care.
Trudeau = Substandard healthcare.


CDN_PATRIOT @ Wed Aug 25, 2021 2:53 pm

Anyone who doesn't think there is already a two-tiered healthcare system in this country have their heads deep in the sand. The rich and well-off can use their money and influence to get better health care, and almost instantly.

A previous employer of mine (who I am not slamming, as he treated us all well) would routinely use his name and money to deal with family medical things almost instantly, and could summon a doctor friend from a golf course to go to his practice and do whatever needed to be done.

Peons like the rest of us have to either wait two months for a family doctor (if you have one), or almost a whole day in a walk-in clinic for something stupidly simple. It's been like this a long time, and isn't about to change overnight.



Thanos @ Wed Aug 25, 2021 3:38 pm

After what Kenney and the UCP have done to healthcare in Alberta, picking a war with everyone from the doctors/nurses to the cleaning staff, I'll be damned if I ever listen to conservative "solutions" ever again. I understand the logic of privatizing parts of the system - not every job in healthcare has to be a government one. That being said though there's no way that Canadian conservatives, especially those of the Reform/UCP ilk, are far more concerned with privatization for profit than they are with privatization for efficiency. They're little better than a bunch of paid-off agents, if not active saboteurs, for the US insurance industry. They'd totally ignore any other better systems, like in Europe or Japan, that could be adopted or copied. Instead, if given half a chance, would go full-bore in adopting the American for-profit-only system.

Look at it this way, from the Alberta perspective. Thanks to a royalty regime that let mostly American oil companies rip massive profits out of this province we have a veritable pittance in public savings from the resources that belonged to us. And we're screwed permanently because of it. What's left in the Heritage Fund at any given time, around $15 billion? That should have easily been at least a couple hundred billion just from the activity that occurred in Alberta O&G from 2000 to 2015 alone. Instead the money wasn't just spent by these supposedly "fiscally responsible" conservatives, the damn money wasn't even collected in the first place and effectively disappeared out of Alberta and Canada altogether and into the accounts of hyper-wealthy Americans and other foreigners. This kind of track record and the local conservatives are supposed to be trusted to manage a healthcare system? I think not.

They can't be trusted, period, on something this important. The status quo remains a far better option than radical change done by those who have been pushing for an Americanization of the system since the 1990's.


Scape @ Wed Aug 25, 2021 4:35 pm

Concur and the polling seems to as well:

Liberals' attacks on Conservatives' health-care stance might be working: Nanos

O'Toole is playing with fire and I think he just got burned.


CDN_PATRIOT @ Wed Aug 25, 2021 5:57 pm

The only polls that count are on election day.




Thanos @ Wed Aug 25, 2021 6:00 pm

Which is why the conservatives who were jumping with joy yesterday over their improved polling results should also be keeping their mouths shut until the actual voting is over.


CDN_PATRIOT @ Wed Aug 25, 2021 6:12 pm

Thanos Thanos:
Which is why the conservatives who were jumping with joy yesterday over their improved polling results should also be keeping their mouths shut until the actual voting is over.

I concur. Personally, I never look at any of the polls throughout the election campaign because many have been off in the past.



Thanos @ Wed Aug 25, 2021 6:16 pm

If someone tried to poll me I'd refuse to participate. I think this excessive polling is a threat to electoral integrity as it encourages too many people not to show up to vote if they're told their preferred party is "doing great numbers". And it's clear a lot of people lie to the pollsters just to screw with them, which does nothing but produce false results that can lead others astray.


Strutz @ Wed Aug 25, 2021 6:19 pm

I ignore the polls as well. Just like I've hung up on the auto-bot calls we've received at home to take part in polls and there have been a few of them regardless of being on the no-call registry for bs calls. Obviously when it comes to politics this does not count.


Scape @ Wed Aug 25, 2021 6:43 pm


Sunnyways @ Wed Aug 25, 2021 7:05 pm

Has nobody told Jagmeet Singh that our cell phone bills are just fine as they are? Being stiffed by Bell and Rogers in perpetuity is at the very core of who we are as a nation.



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