Harper says he'll protect traditional marriage
Rev_Blair @ Wed Dec 15, 2004 9:15 am
Has Godz got a violin?
sjc001 @ Wed Dec 15, 2004 10:37 am
Godz46 Godz46:
Stock market is up, jobless rate is going down, their is an increase in investment, more and more small and medium sized businesses are opening, tourism is up, and their trade deficit is shrinking. Thanks in part to a low US dollar.
The US Stock Market is being artificially supported. The real unemployment rate, if you include those who had their benefits run out and those who gave up on finding a job, is closer to 10%. As to the low US$ it is hurting them On importart since they have to pay more. Many countries are switching from the US$ to the Euro now as well.
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So is Canada, Europe, Australia and Japan. Outsourcing of jobs isn't a US-only issue.
But no where near the scale which the US is doing it even if you take into a per capita. They're even outsourcing much of their legal services as well now to places like India and China.
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And while some of these jobs are being exported, their are new demands for employment that opens up right here. (Though they require more skill).
That is here and not there.
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Even the Canadian immigration minister says that there's too much unskilled workers and too little skilled workers in this country.
Like I had said, the scale is different.
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[size=12]That's not the number the US labor department has, but never mind. FYI: That's how an economic boom begins. An increase in investment in small and medium sized businesses which leads to higher capital being circulated, which increases profits, which leads to more investment, more job openings, more companies upsizing, etc, etc. etc. An economic boom doesn't happen overnight.
That is the theory, but not the practice this time. Many other nations see what is happening in the US on a longer time frame and they don't like what they see. The way things are going we may soon have to look to other markets to buy our raw materials.
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It happens in the span of 3-4 years.
Usually, but since the US is being held up by artificall means now which will do nothing more than vastly increase the national debt it doesn't look to good for the US at all. BTW, Canada's ecnomy is not being supported by artificial means as the US is.
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They smashed the Taliban.
They only hid Bin Ladin, they had nothing to do with the attacks itself and in this case it was the world who pitched in to help the US as well. BTW, he is still on the loose and he looks quite well in the last video of his.
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Terrorists are on the run,
Hardly, if anything they are gaining more and more recruites especially in Iraq now that Bush did them the favor of getting rid of Saddam, whom they hated almost as much as the US.
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Saddam Hussein no longer finances Hamas and Islamic Jihad, Libya decided to abandon its Weapons program to avoid rifts with the US, and more and more Jihadi fighters are corssing into Iraq and getting killed. I'm sorry, how's the US military not protecting them again?
Even the US military admits now that he had nothing to do with the terrorists.
There is also a new US military report out which shows that even their closes allies in the Middle-East don't like them all that much. That the people there don't want to be liberated by the US, nor do they want American style democracy either.
The worse form of tyranny is democracy imposed from without. It has to come from the people themselves or it is meaninless. Next months election in Iraq is a joke since they people won't have a real choice to vote for anyone because only those approved by the US can run.
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Well that certainly doesn't explain how Medial personel from Canada and the Far East have been fleeing to the US.
They think that they will get more money. They don't realize that there are also more costs there as well. The US spends more on health care than we do, but most of that cost is in administrative costs and malpractice.
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And it certainly doesn't explain how the US still atracts the most foreign students to its country than the whole world combined
Sure, their universities are still good, but most American students aren't going into the degrees for the maths and the sciences, they are more interested in courses which they feel will bring them into careers which will earn the most money. The foreign students aren't allowed in many cases to stay after they finish their course there and have to to back home instead.
The rest of the American educational system is a mess.
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It is certainly helping avenging it though.
No, it isn't. If anything it is making things worse. since the US stopped fighting the war on terror and invaded Iraq instead. The world is less safe since the invasion of Iraq.
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Family values and moral issues may not be important to YOU.
They are important to me, it is just that I don't have a limited and narrow views of what a family is or what real morals are as you do.
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But they are important to the majority of Americans (you just have different values, not superiour ones).
Most Americans are being lied to by the religious reich in their country. The religious reich has a warpped view of what is moral and what isn't.
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And one can say the same about Canadians who elect corrupt politicians who believe that same-sex marriage is more important that squandering money and total carelessness of taxpayers money.
Irrelevant. They wouldn't have to bring forth these issues if it were for those who don't know how to mind their own business. Like I had said you mind it when they help with social issues, but you sure like it when they impose your religious beliefs on everyone.
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Oh they're is. Leftists are trying to ram their opinions down the throats of evreybody. Trying to show people that Christians are evil, and that to practise religion is bad, and so on.
Paranoid delusion. They don't have to show anyone that since Christians are doing such a fine job of it themselves for the most part.
Just look at the history of Christian and you'll see just how bloody it actually is. If anything people can fight back in self-defnese now since Christianity is in decline in both power and overall growth rate. It is at a stand still now in comparison to the world population growth rate.
http://www.geocities.com/iconoclastes.geo/victims.html
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Your trying to defend child molestors and saying that people who don;t share your views should be killed. Just like Stalin.
Child molestors like priests and ministers? To a molestor a child's gender is irrelevant. Your type always bring up the fallacy of gays being child molestors, the fact is that the vast majority of child molestors are heterosexuals. If anything a gay parent would be far more loving a parent.
When did I say that people who don't share my view should be killed like Stalin?
sjc001 @ Wed Dec 15, 2004 10:39 am
Rev_Blair Rev_Blair:
Has Georgie got a violin? 
He sure likes to fiddle around with the true.
sjc001 @ Wed Dec 15, 2004 10:44 am
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Godz46
"No arsenal or no weapon in the arsenals of the world is so formidable as the will and moral courage of free men and women."
Ronald Reagan. 1911-2004
"No arsenal or no weapon in the arsenals of the world is so formidable as the will and moral courage of free men and women."
Ronald Reagan. 1911-2004
He also said, "Mommy, change my diaper." He was a senile old fool who quadrupled the American national debt in only 8 shorts years from $1 trillion (Took 80 years for the US to get it up that high with 2 world wars, a great depression, and the Cold War to boot.) to $4 trillion.
Rev_Blair @ Wed Dec 15, 2004 11:23 am
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He sure likes to fiddle around with the true.
It's like they said in the movie, he can't handle the truth.
If the US dollar continues to decline OPEC will switch to the Euro. That's their nearest market anyway. If that happens the US economy won't be able to be propped up with ever-increasing debt.
Meanwhile China is starting to shift its attention to Europe and is buying up natural resources in Canada. If the Husky deal goes through there will be slowly growing pressure to back out of the NAFTA and start shipping oil east (actually west, but I don't want to start explaining about the earth being round) instead of south.
South America and Africa are increasing resentful of how they are treated by the US.
Natives in Canada's north don't want the MacKenzie pipeline running through their tradional lands.
Manitoba is looking at sending electricity east as well as south, but Ontario would likely get precedence in any agreement.
The US is looking pretty shakey when it comes to energy resources.
sjc001 @ Wed Dec 15, 2004 11:30 am
Rev_Blair Rev_Blair:
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He sure likes to fiddle around with the true.
It's like they said in the movie, he can't handle the truth.
If the US dollar continues to decline OPEC will switch to the Euro. That's their nearest market anyway. If that happens the US economy won't be able to be propped up with ever-increasing debt.
Meanwhile China is starting to shift its attention to Europe and is buying up natural resources in Canada. If the Husky deal goes through there will be slowly growing pressure to back out of the NAFTA and start shipping oil east (actually west, but I don't want to start explaining about the earth being round) instead of south.
South America and Africa are increasing resentful of how they are treated by the US.
Natives in Canada's north don't want the MacKenzie pipeline running through their tradional lands.
Manitoba is looking at sending electricity east as well as south, but Ontario would likely get precedence in any agreement.
The US is looking pretty shakey when it comes to energy resources.
Bush is truly screwing the US over big time and even after it was proven that he was lying to them about Iraq and the whole thing they re-elected him anyways. The problem is that the CONservatives in Canada are falling for his lies as well and want Canada to go that was as well. It is a good thing that no one in Canada takes the CONsevatives seriously enough to actually let them run the country. We don't want another MulRUINey in office any time soon again.
Robair @ Wed Dec 15, 2004 11:59 am
Godz46 Godz46:
and their trade deficit is shrinking. Thanks in part to a low US dollar.
Their trade deficit is shrinking?
I didn't even bother with the rest of your post after reading that. You'd think someone as concerned with making money as you profess to be would be a little more in tune with this financial stuff.
My income has gone down about 16,000 a year (over the last 2 years) Canadian because of a shrinking US dollar. Everything here is getting more expensive because of a shrinking US dollar.
Rev_Blair @ Wed Dec 15, 2004 12:08 pm
Rev_Blair @ Wed Dec 15, 2004 12:39 pm
Can I have some of what you're smoking, Godz? There's this party this weekend... 
Robair @ Wed Dec 15, 2004 12:55 pm
Godz46 Godz46:
Yes...its in its beggining stages.
Says WHO?
Link, article, anything?
I would love for that to be true slick. My checking account would look better.
sjc001 @ Wed Dec 15, 2004 12:55 pm
Godz46 Godz46:
Artificially supported? What the fuck? The stock market is and always been an investment by private individuals. It is an indication of consumer confidence and investment.
Their entire economy is being artificially supported by creating more and more dedebt.
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Actually, the US calculates those as well. It’s just that after a certain time, benefits run out. But the number of people unemployed still gets registered. And its no way near 10 er cent.
Its worse than they are letting on.
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Actually no, exports are up thanks to a low US dollar, tourism is up and so is foreign direct investment. If anything, the low dollar is bringing advantages to help fix their trade deficit.
Too little too late.
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Yeah...and? If anything a low dollar is good for the US economy in many ways. US firms begin to sell more than they buy internationally.
That won't benefit the average American since many of these jobs are outsourced to overseas.
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Actually, according to the non-partisan, nonprofit Economic Policy Institute and Harvard School of Business, Germany ranks first in terms of jobs lost per capita to outsourcing, followed by the UK, France and then the US. (Canada ranks 5th)
Is that on a per capita basis?
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That is everywhere. So says Alan Greenspan, the US Labor department, the GAO review, EU economic forum, and every single job search engine in the world.
It also depends on what sort of jobs are going as well.
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The scale is different? There are more demands for skilled labor than they're are demands for unemployment insurance over here.
Bush tried to get fast food places redefined as manufacturing jobs so I would trust anything the US says on this.
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It is the theory and the practice. It has been so since the beginning of mankind. If many nations don't like what they see in the US...then why the hell are they increasing their investment over there? Foreign direct investment shot up in the last quarter.
Define "shot up"?
Nope. We've had surplus over the last 9 years while the US has had the oppose during the Bush administration.
That isn't being artificially supported. The US is going further into debt while Canada isn't.
What isn't actually happening.
Actually it fails to deliver actual health care to the average American. That number is over 44 million and raising.
Doing what?
44 million Americans would disagree with you on that. And in same cases during the year it can be up to 85 million.
With the way they are ignoring the sciences and the maths soon it will fall as things like creationism replace real science.
I didn't say that the universities were bad, but the rest of it is a mess.
No it doesn't. That was a sideline.
You aren't listening. Even the US military admits he had nothing to do with the terrorists. That all of the so-called links were proven false and from unreliabvle sources. The terrorists hated Saddam almost as much as they did the US since he was an infidel and run a secular state and not too long ago was a close ally of the US..
It is also the opinion of a good number of Canadians as well.
Family is much more than those who share your genes. A family is anyone who loves you and wants to care for you.
"Freaks of nature"? Gee, that sure is a loving and tolerant attitude you have there. One fact you may be realize is that homosexuality occurs in nature as well.
Yes, they elected him mainly because he told them he loved Jesus, that America could do no worng, and that everything was fine. All of which were lies.
Speaking of corrupt, how's MulRUINey? Canada is in great shape now as compared to the US.
Hardly. All schooling must follow a certain standard and besides that has nothing to do with the current issue.
You know, these very same people use to say the very same things about interracial marriages as well. It is just more of the same ignorance. No one is saying that you have approve of it at all since it is none of your business either. In truth it doesn't do you any real harm at all.
Define "shot up"?
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Oh it is more so.
Nope. We've had surplus over the last 9 years while the US has had the oppose during the Bush administration.
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The vast majorities of Canadians are directly or indirectly work for the government (Federal, Provincial and Municipal) and is supported mainly by Private sector tax payers, one recession and it threatens all that.
That isn't being artificially supported. The US is going further into debt while Canada isn't.
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It amounts to decreased tax revenue, which leaves less for the people employed, which lead to budget cuts. And eventually exploding the unemployment rate.
What isn't actually happening.
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Thank you for admitting that the US health service isn't in bad shape as you make it out to be.
Actually it fails to deliver actual health care to the average American. That number is over 44 million and raising.
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BTW: my wife got offered a job in the US, with higher pay, lower taxes and less working hours. And will begin to work at St-Vincent's hospital in Jacksonville, Florida on December 28th.
Doing what?
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[size=12]Yes they do, but the actual medical service is much better. And our rate of increase is faster than that of the US.
44 million Americans would disagree with you on that. And in same cases during the year it can be up to 85 million.
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oh my god..The students are looking out for the best jobs...THE SKY IS FALLING!!!
With the way they are ignoring the sciences and the maths soon it will fall as things like creationism replace real science.
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Yes but they do come to study in the US, more than any other nation. This again debunks your theory that the US education system is in bad form.
I didn't say that the universities were bad, but the rest of it is a mess.
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The war on terror includes the war in Iraq.
No it doesn't. That was a sideline.
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They have removed a regime which supported Hamas and the Islamic Jihad, and Abu Nidal and the Islamic Brotherhood. Further more, al-Qaeda fighters in Saudi, Syria and Jordan have been going into Iraq. Better to fight them there than here.
You aren't listening. Even the US military admits he had nothing to do with the terrorists. That all of the so-called links were proven false and from unreliabvle sources. The terrorists hated Saddam almost as much as they did the US since he was an infidel and run a secular state and not too long ago was a close ally of the US..
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That's your own opinion.
It is also the opinion of a good number of Canadians as well.
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You don't have a definition for a family, but most people do. Live with it.
Family is much more than those who share your genes. A family is anyone who loves you and wants to care for you.
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Most Americans are Church goers, don't blame them for simply respecting the rules of their own religion which tells them that freaks of nature shouldn’t be in the same category as they are.
"Freaks of nature"? Gee, that sure is a loving and tolerant attitude you have there. One fact you may be realize is that homosexuality occurs in nature as well.
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How? You say the American people have elected (in your own view) an administration simply because of bad judgment.
Yes, they elected him mainly because he told them he loved Jesus, that America could do no worng, and that everything was fine. All of which were lies.
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Well I'm just telling you that the same argument can be made about the Canadian election. People re-elected a corrupt government for bullshit reasons.
Speaking of corrupt, how's MulRUINey? Canada is in great shape now as compared to the US.
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Actually its the left who doesn't mind its own business. It wants to restrict the rights of religious people, it wants them to stop home schooling, and they’re very active in social engineering.
Hardly. All schooling must follow a certain standard and besides that has nothing to do with the current issue.
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If people don't believe that Gay Unions shouldn’t be recognized as marriage, than they have the right to say so.
You know, these very same people use to say the very same things about interracial marriages as well. It is just more of the same ignorance. No one is saying that you have approve of it at all since it is none of your business either. In truth it doesn't do you any real harm at all.
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Really? Are Christians killing anyone in the name of religion? If anything the left is trying to demonize law-abiding Christians while pacifying blood-thirsty Muslims.
For most of their religion yes they did do that, but now that Christianity is in decline it doesn't have the power and control it once had and now just happens to be one of the most moral times in history in comparison.
Wrong. During the Burning Times millions of innocent people were put to the stake. The Crusades, and the Inquisitions as well.
The one group which has persecuted Christians the most out of any other group is other Christians.
Hardly. A few years back our family church had a deacon who was married and had a son. They had to move because he got caught molesting a boy. To a child mostestor the gender is irrelevant since secondary sexually features aren't developed yet.
In many cases these numbers are biased because of the environment it was conducted in.
http://psychology.ucdavis.edu/rainbow/h ... ation.html
For most of their religion yes they did do that, but now that Christianity is in decline it doesn't have the power and control it once had and now just happens to be one of the most moral times in history in comparison.
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Christian history is a pacifist one compared to the Islamic relgion. Which brings me to the next point, Christians have reformed themselves...Muslims have not.
Wrong. During the Burning Times millions of innocent people were put to the stake. The Crusades, and the Inquisitions as well.
The one group which has persecuted Christians the most out of any other group is other Christians.
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Yes...homosexual priests and ministers to be precise.
Hardly. A few years back our family church had a deacon who was married and had a son. They had to move because he got caught molesting a boy. To a child mostestor the gender is irrelevant since secondary sexually features aren't developed yet.
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9 per 1000 heterosexuals are likely to molest children. Yet that number is 389 per 1000 when it comes to homosexuals. (Journal of Criminology, May 2000). There are more cases of heterosexual child molesting because they’re more heterosexuals on this earth. It’s that simple.
In many cases these numbers are biased because of the environment it was conducted in.
http://psychology.ucdavis.edu/rainbow/h ... ation.html
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All hardcore leftists believe that people who don't share their views should be shot or deported.
Hardly. If anything it is the opposite. It is those like you who wish harm on others. "Freaks of nature".