Alberta Election
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Cfox @ Mon Apr 16, 2012 7:37 am
I have always voted Conservative, but even if I didn't, I still would not vote for ANY party that uses an auto-dialer and relentless calls to ask for votes. In the last month I have received 65 calls from various Wild-Rose party members or volunteers asking for my support even after I requested they not contact me again.
Although all parties have various ideas that I like, the phone calls ensure zero support for the WRP.
Alta_redneck @ Mon Apr 16, 2012 8:37 am
It's poor old Ralph day on Wildrose radio today because apparently Lougheed said on the weekend that Klein took us backwards.
Rod Love is on there defending Ralph cause he can't speak for himself.
I don't know if I have enough fingers and toes to count how many times Lougheed has said that very same thing over the years, but now their picking on Ralph when he's so sick. 
bootlegga @ Mon Apr 16, 2012 10:14 am
Alta_redneck Alta_redneck:
It's poor old Ralph day on Wildrose radio today because apparently Lougheed said on the weekend that Klein took us backwards.
Rod Love is on there defending Ralph cause he can't speak for himself.
I don't know if I have enough fingers and toes to count how many times Lougheed has said that very same thing over the years, but now their picking on Ralph when he's so sick.
Rod Love is on there defending Ralph cause he can't speak for himself.
I don't know if I have enough fingers and toes to count how many times Lougheed has said that very same thing over the years, but now their picking on Ralph when he's so sick.
I'd agree with Lougheed - Klein had some a few good ideas (1% royalty rate on new oil sands projects was probably his best), but his cuts to infrastructure, health care, education, RalphBucks, spending every single penny the HTF made in interest (and not adding to the principle), etc are still hurting us today.
As for Klein's health status, I find it highly karmic that he's doing poorly after so many years of treating others (like those on AISH who confronted him at a press conference) like crap. I don't wish ill on anybidy, but this is a classic example of what goes around comes around.
andyt @ Mon Apr 16, 2012 10:16 am
principal (just saying, we all do it)
I think that last paragraph is beneath you, Boots. You know I'm not going to have any love for Klein, but wishing ill health on somebody I don't think is on unless they're Bin Laden or something. Eventually we're all going to be in that place, no matter what our Karma. Now if one of his policies had come back to bite him on the ass, that would have been funny.
Dragon-Dancer @ Mon Apr 16, 2012 10:19 am
peck420 peck420:
DragonDancer DragonDancer:
To allow doctors to refuse on the basis of conscience or religious objection to treating a patient could deny that patient the right to life.
Hmm, than which right is more important?
Is it the individuals right of freedom and conscience or the individuals right to life, liberty and security, or will it be the right to fair and equal treatment?
Do we give weight based on their numerical listing? I jest...kind of.
That's of course what higher courts are for but I would say life is more important than conscience or religion.
Thanos @ Mon Apr 16, 2012 10:21 am
Cfox Cfox:
:evil: I have always voted Conservative, but even if I didn't, I still would not vote for ANY party that uses an auto-dialer and relentless calls to ask for votes. In the last month I have received 65 calls from various Wild-Rose party members or volunteers asking for my support even after I requested they not contact me again.
Although all parties have various ideas that I like, the phone calls ensure zero support for the WRP.
Although all parties have various ideas that I like, the phone calls ensure zero support for the WRP.
You've got that right. I've never been so repeatedly annoyed by the robo-calls and door knocking in any previous election as I have been in this one. And almost all of it's being done by the WRA. I was leaning against them to begin with because of the way their supporters have been behaving on QR77 and the readers comments in the SUN. But them acting like this, like my phone number is their personal property to harass me with, confirmed that I won't be voting for them. It's gotta be like totally negative karma to vote for the one who's being the pushiest, rudest, and most ignorant one in the bunch.
andyt @ Mon Apr 16, 2012 10:25 am
peck420 peck420:
andyt,
Am I okay with it? What do you think.
I'm not okay with half the stuff that gets covered by freedom of speech either.
Should we get rid of that too, because it can hurt my feelings?
$1:
Are you really OK with somebody not wanting to rent to you, or operate on you for that matter, because their conscience says not to?
Am I okay with it? What do you think.
I'm not okay with half the stuff that gets covered by freedom of speech either.
Should we get rid of that too, because it can hurt my feelings?
No, and I don't know how you twisted this around. You seemed to arguing that people should be able to act on their conscience - ie discriminate if they want to.
Dragon-Dancer @ Mon Apr 16, 2012 10:31 am
I received PC platform info in the mail Friday. So far that's the first I've heard from any of the parties this election, robo or not. Just hearing about the mass robo calling and obvious liabilities in the WRP is confirming my feelings about them though.
bootlegga @ Mon Apr 16, 2012 11:07 am
andyt andyt:
principal (just saying, we all do it)
I think that last paragraph is beneath you, Boots. You know I'm not going to have any love for Klein, but wishing ill health on somebody I don't think is on unless they're Bin Laden or something. Eventually we're all going to be in that place, no matter what our Karma. Now if one of his policies had come back to bite him on the ass, that would have been funny.
I think that last paragraph is beneath you, Boots. You know I'm not going to have any love for Klein, but wishing ill health on somebody I don't think is on unless they're Bin Laden or something. Eventually we're all going to be in that place, no matter what our Karma. Now if one of his policies had come back to bite him on the ass, that would have been funny.
I didn't say I'm glad he is sick (I even specifically said I don't wish ill on anybody), just that karma came back and bit him in the ass. Maybe if he had been a nicer person, he'd still have his health - then again, maybe not considering his lifetime of smoking and drinking.
He's not the first former premier to have health issues so soon after leaving office either, Don Getty had serious health problems in the 90s (I don't know if he still does).
Maybe the office does something to people (too much asbestos or something), I don't know.
andyt @ Mon Apr 16, 2012 11:16 am
Take a look at before and after pic of POTUS - doing this shit ages you.
I think you're misusing the concept of Karma here, and no matter how you frame it, you're saying he deserves to suffer ill health. Think about it. You're glad Karma bit him on the ass - ie that he got sick after being such a bastard. Can't agree there.
Bruce_E_T @ Mon Apr 16, 2012 3:29 pm
Latest CBC poll has Wildrose leading PC's by 7 points 43% to 36%.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/albertavo ... -race.html
peck420 @ Mon Apr 16, 2012 4:04 pm
andyt andyt:
No, and I don't know how you twisted this around. You seemed to arguing that people should be able to act on their conscience - ie discriminate if they want to.
I would rather have some one...especially a doctor...tell me flat out that they won't serve me, than do something half assed (or worse) while being forced to serve me.
I know, I know...it never happens that way...it's against the law.
Curtman @ Tue Apr 17, 2012 6:05 am
$1:
Hunsperger, a candidate for the Wildrose party in Edmonton-South West warned in a blog from June 2011 that instead of accepting gays and lesbians for who they are, they should be warned that their lifestyle will result in an eternity in hell.
"You will suffer the rest of eternity in the lake of fire, hell, a place of eternal suffering," Hunsperger said in the blog entry titled "Born this Way."
"You will suffer the rest of eternity in the lake of fire, hell, a place of eternal suffering," Hunsperger said in the blog entry titled "Born this Way."
A fine group of candidates.. If only it was 1912.
Gunnair @ Tue Apr 17, 2012 6:16 am
Curtman Curtman:
$1:
Hunsperger, a candidate for the Wildrose party in Edmonton-South West warned in a blog from June 2011 that instead of accepting gays and lesbians for who they are, they should be warned that their lifestyle will result in an eternity in hell.
"You will suffer the rest of eternity in the lake of fire, hell, a place of eternal suffering," Hunsperger said in the blog entry titled "Born this Way."
"You will suffer the rest of eternity in the lake of fire, hell, a place of eternal suffering," Hunsperger said in the blog entry titled "Born this Way."
A fine group of candidates.. If only it was 1912.
Yep, better to have groupthink and no freedom of speech. If only it was 1984.
bootlegga @ Tue Apr 17, 2012 9:29 am
Gunnair Gunnair:
Curtman Curtman:
$1:
Hunsperger, a candidate for the Wildrose party in Edmonton-South West warned in a blog from June 2011 that instead of accepting gays and lesbians for who they are, they should be warned that their lifestyle will result in an eternity in hell.
"You will suffer the rest of eternity in the lake of fire, hell, a place of eternal suffering," Hunsperger said in the blog entry titled "Born this Way."
"You will suffer the rest of eternity in the lake of fire, hell, a place of eternal suffering," Hunsperger said in the blog entry titled "Born this Way."
A fine group of candidates.. If only it was 1912.
Yep, better to have groupthink and no freedom of speech. If only it was 1984.
Gunnair, the Wildrose is all about groupthink - look at how it deals with the media;
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/pol ... le2392136/
Believe it or not, Curtman is right in this instance - Hunsperger and lots of other Wildrose candidates are outspoken on issues most Canadians consider dealt with long ago (like abortion & SSM). Take a gander of some of their candidates;
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/nat ... le2401848/
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