Alberta Election
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bootlegga @ Sat Apr 14, 2012 5:47 am
Alta_redneck Alta_redneck:
I watched hockey instead so I missed it, but it seems Calgary watched a different debate.
$1:
New poll shows Danielle Smith "won" leaders' debate _QR77 Newsroom
4/12/2012
An exclusive Ipsos Reid poll, commissioned by QR77 and Global News, shows Danielle Smith as the front-runner after Thursday's debate. 37% of respondents believe the Wildrose leader won the debate. 28% chose PC leader Alison Redford, 13% indicated Raj Sherman and 10% picked Brian Mason. Another 13% didn't know who won. As for some of the other questions asked of the 538 respondents:
Who lost the debate?
31% - Alison Redford
27% - Raj Sherman
16% - Danielle Smith
16% - Brian Mason
10% - Don't Know
How did the debate affect your thoughts on each leader?
Brian Mason - net improvement of 27%
Danielle Smith - net improvement of 10%
Raj Sherman - net improvement of 1%
Alison Redford - net worsening of 15%
In other categories, 39% of respondents believed Smith had the best policies and ideas, while 38% believed Redford looked and sounded most like a premier. 38% say Smith was the most likeable and 37% thought she was the best speaker. As for the regional breakdown, Smith has a 6% lead over Redford by respondents in Calgary, while the two are tied in Edmonton, and Smith has opened up a 25% lead over Redford in other parts of the province.
4/12/2012
An exclusive Ipsos Reid poll, commissioned by QR77 and Global News, shows Danielle Smith as the front-runner after Thursday's debate. 37% of respondents believe the Wildrose leader won the debate. 28% chose PC leader Alison Redford, 13% indicated Raj Sherman and 10% picked Brian Mason. Another 13% didn't know who won. As for some of the other questions asked of the 538 respondents:
Who lost the debate?
31% - Alison Redford
27% - Raj Sherman
16% - Danielle Smith
16% - Brian Mason
10% - Don't Know
How did the debate affect your thoughts on each leader?
Brian Mason - net improvement of 27%
Danielle Smith - net improvement of 10%
Raj Sherman - net improvement of 1%
Alison Redford - net worsening of 15%
In other categories, 39% of respondents believed Smith had the best policies and ideas, while 38% believed Redford looked and sounded most like a premier. 38% say Smith was the most likeable and 37% thought she was the best speaker. As for the regional breakdown, Smith has a 6% lead over Redford by respondents in Calgary, while the two are tied in Edmonton, and Smith has opened up a 25% lead over Redford in other parts of the province.
Well, as I said, Redford looked most like a premier, which that poll agreed with.
As for Calgary thinking Smith won, it's not a surprise, because Calgary and southern Alberta are her base. If you look at the poll on the Edmonton Journal website, it says that Redford won - although it's a reader poll and not one carried out by a polling company.
I think that Redford did very well, but wasn't able to land a knockout punch against Smith.
Steven Staples at the Journal wrote that both Smith and Redfored won - Smith for appealing to the right wing and Redford for taking the centre.
http://www.edmontonjournal.com/news/Sta ... story.html
And analysts from all over the province disagreed on who 'won' - some say Smith, some say Redford.
http://www.edmontonjournal.com/technolo ... story.html
Either way, as I said, it's going to be an interesting 10 days until the election.
Gunnair @ Sat Apr 14, 2012 6:08 am
eureka eureka:
What it will do is allow Marriage commissioners to refuse to marry same sex couple: to allow Pharmacists to refuse to sell condoms. You can probably come up with more examples.
could it apply to abortion?
could it apply to abortion?
Disagree. Freedom of conscious might mean you don't want to marry two gays as a marriage commissionaire, but I don't think so. It means that you have the freedom not to to do that job but to don another.
In other words, you have the freedom not to chose a job that requires you to do things against your conscience - it does not mean you can cherry pick what you feel like doing in the job.
Yogi @ Sat Apr 14, 2012 6:11 am
I took the time off to go back to my hotel and watch the debate. I was actually disappointed in the sense that other than Redford stating "we will NOT review oil royalties", none of the contenders even addressed this issue.
bootlegga @ Sun Apr 15, 2012 3:18 pm
Peter Lougheed formally endorses Alison Redford and the PCs!
http://calgary.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/ ... algaryHome
Yogi @ Sun Apr 15, 2012 4:02 pm
bootlegga bootlegga:
Peter Lougheed formally endorses Alison Redford and the PCs!
http://calgary.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/ ... algaryHome
http://calgary.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/ ... algaryHome
I'm............I'm...........................speechless!
Bodah @ Sun Apr 15, 2012 4:59 pm
eureka eureka:
What it will do is allow Marriage commissioners to refuse to marry same sex couple: to allow Pharmacists to refuse to sell condoms. You can probably come up with more examples.
could it apply to abortion?
could it apply to abortion?
No it won't.
Marriage commissioners work for the province, so they have to follow the law of the land, federal laws to be more specific. Last I checked gay marriage is recognized federally. If they don't like it they shouldn't be working for the province and state.
Where freedom of conscious would apply is in regards to priests who perform marriage ceremonies within their own private parishes. Even with that, gay people can still get married in Alberta, and don't need laws that force everyone in Alberta to perform them. Legislating people to accept something isn't a good idea, even if their wrong.
For the record I'm all for gay marriage. I don't see why two people regardles of sex shouldn't have the same financial and long term benefits as a hetero married couple would.
bootlegga @ Sun Apr 15, 2012 5:07 pm
Sadly, this isn't a shocker either...
Wildrose candidate Allan Hunsperger posts anti-gay post on personal blog;
$1:
The controversy stems from a blog written by Allan Hunsperger, a pastor who's running as a Wildrose candidate in Edmonton South, in which he warned against accepting gays and lesbians for who they are.
In his comments, written in June, 2011, Hunsperger criticized the Edmonton Public School Division's views of accepting students for who they are and used Lady Gaga's album, "Born this Way" as part of his analogy.
"You see, you can live the way you were born, and if you die the way you were born then you will suffer the rest of eternity in the lake of fire, hell, a place of eternal suffering."
In his comments, written in June, 2011, Hunsperger criticized the Edmonton Public School Division's views of accepting students for who they are and used Lady Gaga's album, "Born this Way" as part of his analogy.
"You see, you can live the way you were born, and if you die the way you were born then you will suffer the rest of eternity in the lake of fire, hell, a place of eternal suffering."
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2012/04/15 ... 27008.html
Bodah @ Sun Apr 15, 2012 5:19 pm
A nutter priest, no suprise. I'd keep religon out of my campaign if it was up to me. Has the Wildrose ever backed him ?
Yogi @ Sun Apr 15, 2012 5:26 pm
bootlegga bootlegga:
Sadly, this isn't a shocker either...
Wildrose candidate Allan Hunsperger posts anti-gay post on personal blog;
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2012/04/15 ... 27008.html
Wildrose candidate Allan Hunsperger posts anti-gay post on personal blog;
$1:
The controversy stems from a blog written by Allan Hunsperger, a pastor who's running as a Wildrose candidate in Edmonton South, in which he warned against accepting gays and lesbians for who they are.
In his comments, written in June, 2011, Hunsperger criticized the Edmonton Public School Division's views of accepting students for who they are and used Lady Gaga's album, "Born this Way" as part of his analogy.
"You see, you can live the way you were born, and if you die the way you were born then you will suffer the rest of eternity in the lake of fire, hell, a place of eternal suffering."
In his comments, written in June, 2011, Hunsperger criticized the Edmonton Public School Division's views of accepting students for who they are and used Lady Gaga's album, "Born this Way" as part of his analogy.
"You see, you can live the way you were born, and if you die the way you were born then you will suffer the rest of eternity in the lake of fire, hell, a place of eternal suffering."
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2012/04/15 ... 27008.html
That one truly does shock me, Boots. I just saw this on the news. I sure don't agree with hunspergers views, and think he should be tossed. Smith, so far doesn't seem to think that is necessary. Big mistake on her part!
andyt @ Sun Apr 15, 2012 5:28 pm
I don't think he's the only thorn on that Wildrose.
Gunnair @ Sun Apr 15, 2012 7:20 pm
andyt andyt:
I don't think he's the only thorn on that Wildrose.
Oh aren't you just the wit?
bootlegga @ Sun Apr 15, 2012 8:54 pm
Bodah Bodah:
A nutter priest, no suprise. I'd keep religon out of my campaign if it was up to me. Has the Wildrose ever backed him ?
Yes, he's currently the Wildrose candidate running in Edmonton Southwest (a new riding created to balance out population disparities).
http://www.wildrose.ca/candidates/allan-hunsperger/
It's because of candidates like this that critics are "fear-mongering" as Smith puts it. Based on views like that, it's not fear-mongering, it's a legitimate fear that people like that might influence decisions the party makes, especially whne Smith crows about free votes and citizen referenda.
BRAH @ Mon Apr 16, 2012 4:23 am
It's a political Catfight, meow..
Bodah @ Mon Apr 16, 2012 4:37 am
Bootlegga,
Smith seems like a smart enough person not to put up with that sort of thing. Worse case scenario if they turn out to be lunatics you can always vote them out in 4 years. If I lived in Alberta I'd vote her in just to see her take on Ottawa regarding transfer payments.
bootlegga @ Mon Apr 16, 2012 5:41 am
Bodah Bodah:
Bootlegga,
Smith seems like a smart enough person not to put up with that sort of thing. Worse case scenario if they turn out to be lunatics you can always vote them out in 4 years. If I lived in Alberta I'd vote her in just to see her take on Ottawa regarding transfer payments.
Smith seems like a smart enough person not to put up with that sort of thing. Worse case scenario if they turn out to be lunatics you can always vote them out in 4 years. If I lived in Alberta I'd vote her in just to see her take on Ottawa regarding transfer payments.
Sorry, but I'm not inclined to give ANY ideologue on either side of the spectrum a chance in office (I won't vote NDP either). Call me boring, but I'm a centrist and not interested in radical shifts in public policy. The only Wildrose scenario which isn't a total nightmare from my POV is a Wildrose minority - and even that worries me.
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