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michaelredeagle @ Fri Mar 11, 2005 11:24 pm

As my "OFFICIAL" first post to any site anywhere, I thought long and hard about to whom and for what, the internet being compacted with ideas and information. This is the best web site I have ever seen or known of (next to the one I will mention later)and have been looking diligently for.

Enough smooching though...

Ok Here I go,

First of all I have spent, off and on, over 15 years living between Canada and the US, I have the ol' dualie citizanship. Much to my dismay as a child I was brought to the US. I was frequently made fun of till I learned to speak with an american accent. I conformed, (hey, I was 9).

I have seen the world twice since then, not as a tourist but as a man attempting to live in this world, nothing more.

I started with no political bias'.

Then I went to MIT. I was picked up by a company in Arizona that created software for the US government. We made the control systems for the comanche helicopters. We worked on databases for the CIA. It was fun, and although I couldn't get nothing but the most base security clearance, I met a lot of people. I guess I have one of those personalities that make people feel comfortable talking to me. Or maybe it was because people knew I was Canadian. Anyway, people started telling me alot during those all nighters.

I worked there for 2 years. It was all I could take.... (ps when I left I had the network play continuously the molson commercials on every computer, thanks for the downloads)

This world, my friends, is very complicated. I love math and so I have a good knack for putting things together in my head. It doesn't take much to figure out americas roll in the world and what "its" really up to. When people attempt to patronize those who find truths by stating that they are anti american or a conspiratist or unpatriotic (dern'd right, I'm not an american patriot), its a nice way of them saying that they blatently refuse to use the old noodle and dare to think about what they are defending or doing and why (many, especially americans, will come up with denials and plausibilitys and say that its just not true, this refusal I have actually dealt with, ask any american why they are in Iraq this week and see what they come up with. Many others will say that this is not true for all americans, I have lived in 9 states, the few who have broken from the mold are often a self-taught minority, not the 49%, but about 1-2%).

Anyway, when I saw my helicopter going the limit on The Hulk, I felt proud. Then I saw it in Iraq and Afghanistan...

To figure out what to do about the "missle defence" issue is simple and I tend to take a Canadian point of view on it. Diplomacy is the best way to defend your nation. Aside from the "officials" saying that it would be wrong for america to think that it can fire missles over a sovereign nation, america should know that we have militias here too and alot of them are not taking too lightly to the idea of america waltzing along the border and waving their pistolas around. I'm not in one, but I know a few guys, (don't we all), who aren't to happy about americas swaggering and really don't care what even our own polititians say. Let's just say that I'd love to see them test this non-useable weapon, should be interesting.

The world wars ended when one side virtually wiped out the others economy. Much care for the populations was never a concern (ask a draft dodger, as if that was a bad thing, to not get killed or kill for someone else's opinions and beliefs). Am I the only person to read For Us The Living By the great Robert Heinlien. If leaders state that they need ANY weapon to defend "their people" they are nicely saying that diplomacy is for the diplomats and weapons are for killing and that they're not much of a diplomat.

We teach our children to work out their problems yet we "claim" that world problems are "too complicated" to even bother trying. Frustration , ignorance and impatience are the cause of this.

5 years ago I was in my office in Tucson watching the anti war protesters and counted easily a few hundred people on my block alone, yet on the evening news it was, "a few hundred people showed up for an anti war rally, and in weather..." what happened to the other thousand(s)?

Where was the real news? I found the website www.unknownnews.net and saw the actual pictures from around the world, everyone was mentioning the book 1984 when it came to the news brodcasts (So I re-read it, you should too. Brainwashing is not all CIA, its daily misinformationalism. Try Ayn Rands: The New Left: The Anti-Industrial Revolution).

Then, it happened; Helen Thomas, my favorite reporter at the white house, was banned for asking Bush "real" questions.
????
Was I going nuts?

I started to ask others this and thats when the whole Anti-Patriotisms began. It was as if to question the actions of any leader was grounds for treason hearings. "If you don't back the president you don't back america and if you don't back america you're a terrorist!!! (remember that?!?!). The McCartharist came out in force, but this time, instead of anyone doing it in "official" hearings, they were just spouting off on EVERY news station, not just Fox News, (who, by the way, are not brainwashing anyone, they are enforcing the ideals of the few nutty warhawks with the loud mouths and small brains, the smaller the brain, the louder the mouth, watch and see for yourself) And when they get their facts wrong, they apologize in a side note at 11:30 at night.

Then came the lovely patriot act and PAII. I read them.
All the way through.
I wish the american public was order to read it. In fact, I think that someone should hijack the airwaves and just read it over and over again.

If you haven't read it, you know nothing about what america really is and does when the cameras aren't around.

And the americans who were supposedly opposed to anything (liberals etc.) that their government was/is doing protested...
PROTESTED???
What happened to actually doing something about the problems in their country? There protests became "hip" and "in". I noticed that this became "cool" to even the newscasters eventually. So cool that everyone was protesting, but no one was actually doing anything to stop their fellow countrymen. Nothing. "You don't like us killin' go protest in yur first ammendment area." (look that one up). How many of you out there know the one that goes, if you don't do something to stop an evil act, you are saying that it is ok for it to happen.

Then the newsies picked up the militarys way of pacifying any opposition with linguistical wordplay, "they're not rebels, they're insergents" "their terrorist and we're patriot... blah blah"

Someone asked me what canada would do if 9/11 happen in canada. Well, first off, it never would.

This is not a BS Canadian dream answer.

Like I said, the world is complicated. First I said, "I know it won't because I happen to know some Taliban in Vancouver and they said that Canada was a no-no in the terrorist world." He did like that, tee hee.

Then I said, "Do you even know what/who the Taliban are? What their beilifs are? Why they "Really" attacked america? What america did to them that got them so pissed off they went to war? Osama Who? Osama is responsible for 3000 american and others deaths, yet how many millions in Afghanistan alone is america responsible for? Do you even know your own history? Anything??? The CBC did a nice documentary on them, you should see it."

Canada wouldn't get attacked because we don't go around the world Bi**h slapping every country we stumble upon. When a Canadian travels the world, s/he trys to immerse themselve into the culture and take it all in. americans go around looking for the McDonalds and wonder why it smells different. I know, I was asked this by one once in Romania. I wondered why this was and then finally figure it out. They still have what I call the Mayflower Effect. They always think that THIS should be like THIS and THAT should be like THAT where ever they go. They don't want to figure things out. They don't want to know what the locals believe or think or do. "They are not like us, well by (our) god, we'll show them the GREATNESS of being us and make them us (us = US)!"

Now you should know, I'm Blackfoot. So when I say that I know what I'm talking about, I know what I'm talking about. america is simply doing as it has always done. Download some Robbie Robertson music for a quick refresher. A native comedian recently said that Iraq was the New Natives. If you look at any of americas history anywhere in the world OR THE ACTIONS OF THE aMERICAN POPULACE, you will be reminded of The Last Of The Mohicans.

The way Canada and its Aboriginal People deal with each other at least attempts to be civilized. As is its case in the world. Talk it out. Try listening. Try to understand from anothers point of view, and if all else fails, just leave each other alone.

Take this from someone who regretfully made a war machine. How many men, women and children have died because of what I helped make for teh americans. And I didn't even have an important part. But a War Machine is a complicated device full of many parts, and if you don't stop and think about why you are doing what your doing, people die.

I should mention that I married a (now ex-)american. And we have choosen to stay in Canada for good. In her own words, she says that she thought she knew everything there was to know about america till she left it to live, not vacation, take semiars or business, in another country. She says that there is never any real history taught in america, a thing that my american history teacher and I got into many time in high school. She has a BS from Purdue U. She didn't even know that the white house was burned down or that america and canada had a war (then, I showed her that we actually had two). We first moved here 4 years ago then went back for 6 months and she just couldn't stand it. She said that she had never seen so many fearful people, that americans we're litterally afraid of everything like its a part of the culture. They're afraid of other people, other beliefs, ways, ideas, ideals, polution, wars, guns, knives, dogs, rats, mice, too many trees, wild animals, their bosses (this is the Age of Corperations), neighbors, church ministers, homeless people, that guy over there, their own shadows. They are so afraid. And worse, their technology is all based on spying on everyone, "What are they doing over there?" Like the lady from Bewitched who was always hiding behind the curtin watching her neighbor.

whew that was a mouthful.

And now...................

Here is how to say what Canada is without comparing it to the US or saying "it isn't***" or "We don't***.

Canada is curling.
Curling is Canada.

Only in Canada could a sport like curling come about. It's peaceful. It's physical without confrontation. Its challenging. It requires thinking about your every slight action. And when push comes to shove, you can knock the other guys stones away without actually having to knock him away.

By all means, any americans, respond to this post.

And by the way, what's so bad about not liking (fuming hatred) america??? What's so great about a polluted, treeless, fearful, moneygrubbing, stealing, killing, hillbilly filled and run (no offense to canadian hillbillies) neolithically metal, lying, backstabing country? "We're the greatest country in the world!!!", yeah, says who? Kiss my red, white and red az.

I intentionally did not and will not capitalize the A in aMERICA unless the word North is in front of it.

   



spikecomix @ Fri Mar 11, 2005 11:45 pm

Wow, wonderful post, lots to reply to ^^ First of all, welcome welcome from a fellow dual citizen. I kind of went the other way... born American and we all became Canadian by choice. Now I live here on my own because I love the country.


hmmderumanway. *gosh!*

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Many others will say that this is not true for all americans, I have lived in 9 states, the few who have broken from the mold are often a self-taught minority, not the 49%, but about 1-2%).

First that. I definitely know what you mean. I lived in a rather red area of Pennsylvania, and one friend (the only friend that still lives there ;) ) that I kept fits that to a T. I have no idea how she managed to keep herself so objective in the crazy area she lives in, but I suspect it's because from a very early age she realized every member of the human race is a lunatic ;)


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Brainwashing is not all CIA, its daily misinformationalism. Try Ayn Rands: The New Left: The Anti-Industrial Revolution).

Ooo Ayn Rand. I read the Fountainhead and really enjoyed picking apart the undertones in that, so if this a straightforward info book of hers I'll definitly pick it up :/ And I should read the Patriot Act, too, but legal wording gets me so confused... ._. I do much better with equations and numbers.

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the smaller the brain, the louder the mouth, watch and see for yourself

Oooohohohoho seconds to THAT.

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Only in Canada could a sport like curling come about. It's peaceful. It's physical without confrontation. Its challenging. It requires thinking about your every slight action. And when push comes to shove, you can knock the other guys stones away without actually having to knock him away.

Very well put. I tried curling for the first time only recently, and I have an immense appreciation for the sport after giving it a shot. Curling looks easy... because the guys you see on tv are SO FRIGGIN GOOD. Every aspect of the sport is a challenge and I admire curlers :) :)

   



michaelredeagle @ Sat Mar 12, 2005 12:15 am

Danka

I find recently that alot of my thinking toward the uS is not "happy thoughts". Maybe it was inhaling all the pollution, or the decontamination process you have to go through to get back across the border, (not that I'll be doing that again), but I have to have one almost-unachiveably-challenging hope for the future of my fair country and being in a place where you can just go "Whhhhaaooobbllltttthhtththth" is it.

Funny enough, I don't think I was this patriotic when I was younger. But maybe its just "grass is greenerism".




Nope. America sucks.

   



spikecomix @ Sat Mar 12, 2005 12:38 am

It's hard to appreciate something, or even notice the bad parts, unless you've been somewhere else to compare.

It gets harder to cross the border every time I go back home to visit :/ Still, I try not to think about the States in general anymore lol

   



michaelredeagle @ Sat Mar 12, 2005 12:49 am

Breathing now........

Ahhhh, Red Green is on.

May All The Gods Bless Red Green.

   



Canadaka @ Sat Mar 12, 2005 1:00 am

and god bless duck tape

welcome, much enjoyed your post :)

   



Johnnybgoodaaaaa @ Sat Mar 12, 2005 1:39 am

Well, I for one do not hate any country. I do dislike leaders, certain point of views that I might not agree with, and bees, but I am not anything you described, and either is anyone in my family. Whenever I talk to my mother, one of those people who is not very political, she just tells me "that's how it always has been, and always will be" and that the leaders of our country are just figureheads for the rich people, and there's not much we can do about it. I found your ending line to be, well, one-sided. While yes, the United States is filled with those things, there are also a good deal of great things which have come out of the US. How about last year when the first civilian reached orbit? I would say that for humanity, that was quite an accomplishment. Or what about the money the US puts into projects such as the mars rover? So Americans don't like curling, who gives a fuck? I enjoy football, baseball, basketball, and so on, so now I'm a hillybilly redneck who is aggressive? Really man, I think I'm the only one on this site nowadays who goes around and sees all these huge hateful generalizations people make of other countries. You work somewhere, meet some idiot people, go to 9 different states, and suddenly you know all Americans so good that you can pass a judgement on all of us and write the United States off as "a polluted, treeless, fearful, moneygrubbing, stealing, killing, hillbilly filled and run (no offense to canadian hillbillies) neolithically metal, lying, backstabing country?"

To me, your lines are an insult to all of my fellow Americans who aren't anything you label them as. I myself am for sure not for war, and I'm as broke as you can be, yet I don't give a fuck about money. I've had friends the same as me. While the US does pollute, Canada emits a great deal of pollution itself.

Treeless? Have you ever been to north carolina? I remember last summer driving with my friend through roads so thick with trees that you can't see past 2 feet. Now, In Austin there is even a good deal of trees around, and parks, and the air quality is always good. You seem to have this whole point of view that you know it all, and that Americans are this and that. Well, how would you all like it if I was like "Canadians are arrogant basterds who think they are better than Americans and constantly pick out every problem in the US, while taking a moral high road"? I certainly don't believe that, but I have run into a few Canadians who acted like that. Like I have said many times, individuals are all that matter to me. There's plenty of decent Americans, and you can't expect everyone to spend their time on world events. Alot of people are just living for the day. I don't see why you expect everyone to care about the things you speak of so much, even if they are major things, because some people are just concerned with getting by and having a job, feeding their kids, etc. Ignorance is bliss, and does that make them any less than you? For you to throw so many accusations and generalizations at Americans really shows quite an arrogance on your part.

When will people learn to seperate the government from the people? Americans are humans, humans are different from each other. Environment, heredity, relations with others often shape each one of us differently. I don't hate any country, not even North Korea. I think their government is messed up, as I think our government has done messed up things, but by far, the US is not just some treeless polluted country. That is such a black and white viewpoint, and I'm surprised someone with your obvious experience in things can't see that. While the US does have polluted parts of it's country, and does have areas that are treeless, it also has yellowstone park, the redwoods, huge forest(tons of trees)in many areas in the south, and so on. Just taking a roadtrip a couple years back from Dallas to Chicago show'd the many different wooded areas in the United States. You can't tell me that the United States having stupid people is the only country. What, do you hate the Chinese also because their people pollute and are brainwashed? Do you hate the North Koreans? The Saudi Arabians? Hell, do you hate a good part of the world? Have you never met a stupid Canadian? An aggressive Canadian? Face it, most of the problems you have are found everywhere in humans, or in the government of the US. I'm not in the government, and would like a change, and tried with voting, but what more can I do? You preach people doing something, yet what are you doing? How can you bash others for doing nothing, when all you do is rant about some stuff on the net, and then probably do nothing yourself?

Oh, and you said something of misinformation, but I think it's more of information overload. There's so much stuff thrown out there everyday that alot of news is here today, gone tomorrow. This is probably why alot of political books often give sources from news articles or other things published quite a while ago. While the information was given, it is often forgotten fast because more information or new stories emerge. Also, as far as disinformation goes, if the US is doing it, then how do you know Canada isn't doing it, or every other country? How does someone know someone else is brainwashed and that they aren't brainwashed themselves? For all we know, we are all getting disinformation and all of us are brainwashed to believe in these imaginary countries and different peoples. Can you be brainwashed to believe you are actually something called a "canadian" or "american" and suddenly believe you are different from each other and that being an american or canadian makes you something other than human? What's peace anyways? In times of peace a warlike man sets upon himself, and I also believe "the unexamined life is not worth living" so I don't really understand this peacefulness you speak of.

When I travel the world I better mark off all the sights that I want to see and different ways of life I want to experience, and put down Mcdonalds and conforming people to being like Americans, because that's what Americans do, right? What a joke, sorry, but more than 1-2% is not like that at all. Of course, I don't want to say that I know they aren't like that, but then again, I can't imagine that you know even 4% of the US population personally. I believe it was last year or before in which my cousin went to France to live for half a year, and I know she isn't like you describe Americans who go overseas. She was more concerned with seeing ancient ruins than what food she would eat. My father has also travelled to the UK and France, and talked about the differences and brought back some food items because he was soaking up the culture. He himself was with other Americans doing the same, and talked of the business communities which was where he stayed around, and how the people there show'd him around to see the sights and experience the culture. Anyways, I'm done with my rant.

   



Ruxpercnd @ Sat Mar 12, 2005 9:22 am

michaelredeagle - I don't know exactly why, but I have also found this forum fascinating. It's kind of like a psychiatrist's couch for Canadians and some Americans.

I am so happy to hear that Canada is immune from terrorism! If Canada is so splendidly situated in the world, then why don't we see more of Canada's moral leadership expressed upon the world stage. Why doesn't Canada help negotiate Mid East peace? Wouldn't Canada be a perfect place to host the United Nations?

Have you ever seen what your Taliban friends do to women? I believe that Canada is or has been active in the re-arranging of Afgahnistan. - Sleepless in America :)

   



michaelredeagle @ Sat Mar 12, 2005 11:43 am

$1:
Why doesn't Canada help negotiate Mid East peace?


Kinda hard when you "friends from the south" are shooting everything that moves.

$1:
Wouldn't Canada be a perfect place to host the United Nations?



Absolutly. I hope they do move here.

$1:
I believe that Canada is or has been active in the re-arranging of Afgahnistan.


As for my anti-yankisms:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7067117/?GT1=6305

http://usa.mediamonitors.net/content/view/full/12861

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4252601.stm
we could use some of that (no thanks)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jh ... world.html
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHA

http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2004 ... 07878.html
WHAT THE...???

link
Screw anyone who says that its the government and not the people. The government is made up of hundreds of thosands of people, paid by its citizens, hired by its citizens. And then they just shrug their sholders, "Nothing I can do about it, oh, well, back to Spike TV."

"Its not the public." Oh yeah...
http://www.news.cornell.edu/releases/De ... l.bpf.html
44% is about 150,000,000 americans.

http://iraqwar.mirror-world.ru/tiki-rea ... leId=39513

http://iraqwar.mirror-world.ru/tiki-rea ... leId=39458


NYTimes
http://www.rxpgnews.com/article_351.shtml
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/medical ... wsid=19971

http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/World/Tsuna ... 37-ap.html

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/ame ... ory=602513

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2005/feb20 ... -f10.shtml
Another americans point of view and american diplomacy.

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/ ... 0FCEFA.htm
THIS IS JUST TOO FUNNY

http://fafblog.blogspot.com/2005_02_13_ ... 3550100400

link
DO IT!!!

http://www.unknownnews.net/casualties.html

http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0726-12.htm

This'll start something...
http://www.glasnost.de/hist/usa/1935invasion.html

Don't just take my word for it
http://www.unknownnews.net/040424d.html#amjoseph23

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,12 ... 09,00.html
Second Greatest American of the century so far.

http://www.villagevoice.com/news/0352,m ... 755,6.html
Got my feathers ruffled... (By the way, in all my years in the us, I only saw one golden eagle, no bald ones. In Vancouver, they're like pigeons.

I know americans don't know what health care is like, so heres a taste.
http://www.cbc.ca/stories/2004/01/30/fi ... ters040130

Did I forget..

star 1
star 2
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/1202-04.htm
http://www.cbc.ca/stories/2003/12/10/ir ... cts_031210
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/1121-08.htm
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/s ... 94///?hub=
http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.a ... E_ID=32703
the star
http://www.post-gazette.com/columnists/ ... 0730p1.asp
http://www.cbc.ca/stories/2003/05/02/us_pot_rxn030502

And last but not least; nice that you think Canada should join THIS....
http://www.unknownnews.net/usforeignpolicy.html

   



michaelredeagle @ Sat Mar 12, 2005 11:47 am

And believe it or not, that only took an hour, imagine if I spent all day giving out news.

"A government by the people, of the people, for the people..."

   



michaelredeagle @ Sat Mar 12, 2005 1:08 pm

---spoken with a good ol' drill sergent accent, loud an in yur' face---

Edjucatin' 'mericans is like tryin' ta git jelly ta slide up a hill.

SURE, yah kin du it!

But first yah gatta bend all thuh laows uv physics first!!!!

   



Johnnybgoodaaaaa @ Sat Mar 12, 2005 1:19 pm

First off, I never said the US was the best country and that I think there are no wrongs commited by them. Anyone who knows me from here, in the past few months, I always take notice of the fact that the US has done alot of fucked up things.

"Edjucatin' 'mericans is like tryin' ta git jelly ta slide up a hill.

SURE, yah kin du it!

But first yah gatta bend all thuh laows uv physics first!!!!"

This is just plain offensive, and no one here seems to have any problem with it and people are actually praising your hateful talk.

American, Canadian, French, whatever, they are all the same to me, and everyone is different. Just because someone works for the government does not mean they are bad. When I lived in Dallas there was a guy that my family was good friends with who worked for the government -- he was a air traffic controller. What the hell are you getting at anyways? Wow, you don't like Americans or the United States. You are a hateful bigot. You proved how low you think of all Americans with your above line. Also, I do not support my government in everything, and for you to make statements that Americans do is FALSE. Anyways, I guess this site bans people like Karra who is arrogant towards Canadians and spent a good deal of time cutting down Canadians, yet loves and is super nice to people who say things like:

"And believe it or not, that only took an hour, imagine if I spent all day giving out news.

"A government by the people, of the people, for the people..."

"Edjucatin' 'mericans is like tryin' ta git jelly ta slide up a hill.

SURE, yah kin du it!

But first yah gatta bend all thuh laows uv physics first!!!!"

"Kinda hard when you "friends from the south" are shooting everything that moves."

"Screw anyone who says that its the government and not the people. The government is made up of hundreds of thosands of people, paid by its citizens, hired by its citizens. And then they just shrug their sholders, "Nothing I can do about it, oh, well, back to Spike TV." "

I suppose I am the only one who finds these comments inflammatory. First off, those officials are not hired by EVERYONE. You generalizing moron. Fuck off with your hatred towards people you don't even know.

Also, you posted an article about drug legalization in Canada and the US threatening over the marijuana issue. GET OFF YOUR FUCKING HIGH HORSE. That story was talked about here like months ago, and I'm always for legalizing marijuana, and know a number of people who are too. I also believe the US government should fuck off as far as what Canada does with marijuana. I watch Alex Jones all the time on the Austin local stations, have read books about the corporate lobbies, so I don't need your arrogant "edjucatin'" fucker. Get bent.

44% of the American population is not almost 150000000 idiot. Even if you put the population at 300 million, it would only be 132 million. While that is alot of people, you ignore the fact that 48% said they think opposite. TALK ABOUT A FUCKING BIAS. Now please do the world a favor and vanish.

I'll just stop paying taxes tomorrow, get my family to do the same, and have all my shit taken away and face possible jail time. Man, you are stupid. We are controlled by our government just the same as any other country. They find any way to screw us over, and paying for government employees or even for defense spending is not up to us, but forced otherwise here comes the IRS. Also, I actually like living in the US, my life isn't bad, alot of local music going on, so why the hell would I want to move? You make it sound like we are all sheep living in hell. I go downtown all the time and there's so much music going on, and street parties. I love Austin. What you are doing is like telling other people they should move and that their country sucks. While I hate government policies, and have more "liberal" ideas, I still love places in the United States. I'm about an hour or two from San Antionio, in which is just plain awesome. Go and see the alamo, walk the river walk in the middle of the city, or even outside of Austin they have a pretty cool nature reserve. What other city has bridges which tons of bats fly out of all the time, and statues of stevie ray vaughan? If I don't enjoy that, I can drive 3 hours to Houston, like the 4-5 largest city in the US, check out NASA, maybe see some sports games, soak up the big city life. Fact of the matter is, some people actually enjoy living in the US, and while you all might think you got it better in Canada, I don't see how you can judge feelings of others toward things, and put yours above theres, and make your experiences better. I'm just so sick of hearing about the negative. I hear it all the time. Turn on the Tv, have all of you constantly putting down Americans and posting thousands of articles because you feel we are so stupid that we need to be educated by your sepreme knowledge of events. Damn man, my philosophy is "screw me over once, shame on you; screw me over twice, shame on me." I don't trust the government, and have read enough to know they do shitty things, so I don't need to hear your articles, and I know other Americans who are sick of it to. While your stuff could be aimed at conservatives, you make no mention of that and just spout your bullshit about what all Americans are. 44% say take away some rights of muslims, so you suddenly start talking shit and make no mention that 48% say otherwise. While those numbers might be different than Canada's, we have a good portion of the country who was effected by sept. 11th and does buy the bullshit, but the fact that 48% says no to that shit tells you that it's not just 1 or 2% that is educated in the matters.

   



michaelredeagle @ Sat Mar 12, 2005 1:57 pm

I happen to know thousands of americans. The reason why no one has said anything against the "remarks" is because, much to all Canadians dismay, our niceness is only limited to our tolerance level. Canada has put up with lots from our so-called "friendly neighbor" to the south. Most americans did not know nor care when the softwood issue began or took off here. People were surprised when they crossed the border to find protesters. Thousands of Canadians out of work. Then the breaking of NAFTA agreements. Cattle, fruits and vegetables, wood, electricity hikes, Blame Canada... (For real, we should cut off the water, electricity, harbor (all your made in china merchandise), uranium, food, etc. for one day and remind america that we are still here and we are NOT the 50anythingist state.)

american apathy towards Canada (and the world) is the reason why our polititans are speaking up against america. The things I wrote here are (for your info) spoken on the lips of the majority of Canadians at coffee or lunch, around the water fountains, at work, in our news (see above). Hell, go to and Canadian coffee shop and just sit in the corner and watch. Did that this morning at the local Timmys.

WE SHOUT FROM THE TOP OF EVER MOUNTAIN.

But americans think that we're nice and that we SHOULD just bend over and let your missles fly right up our keesters.

Most americans don't even know where canada is.
"I like going overseas, Canada is always so beautiful." - Britney Spears

$1:
You generalizing moron. Fuck off with your hatred towards people you don't even know.


Now, thats the american talk I came to know. (9 months in NY)

A Bigot is someone who goes by their own personal consensus and prejudice without the even desire to be informed (aka americans). I have live in the US for years (glad I'm home) and I married a (now ex)-american. I know america. Maybe some traveling around the world with an american flag will enlighten. Just make sure the embassy is nearby.

By the way, since you obviously didn't read all that I wrote, or even checked out all of the sites (probably, like most americans you just close your eyes and stick your fingers in your ears yelling "shut up shut up, shut up, la la la la la la la la a laalla ala al la!!!!" I have a Masters Degree from MIT.

AANNDD by the way this site is called Canada Kicks Ass. Not Lets Here It For America The Grand, Our Friends, Whom We Love And Adore. This is why most americans don't like this site. As long as we play the "Nice Canadian" its all good, but soon as we speak our mind, it becomes
--- We're sorry but the following is edited by the Americans For Decency Toward America Bureau ---

These are the words of a Canadian. If you don't like listening to Canadians (much like other americans) then you can take your own advice.


-"We're bigger and we're on top, if this were prison, you'd be our bitch"

   



michaelredeagle @ Sat Mar 12, 2005 2:20 pm

Ahh, texas, drove through it four times. What a dust bowl. Go visit the alamo where the americans got their az kicked by the Santana's Army. I lived in Arizona, California, New York, Washington, South Carolina, Florida, Oregon, Indiana and Michigan.
Oh and my bad on the numbers of how many americans there are, you see, I counted the uncounted homeless too, you know, the ones that only the Red Cross and other charities know about, plus...
http://www.census.gov/ipc/www/
Lets see 295,000,000 (plus the millions of unaccounted)
Divide that (we'll mak this easy) 2 (50%)
Equals

$1:
44% of the American population is not almost 150000000 idiot.


hmmm

You know, math is probably not your forte.

And by the way, I'm sitting here with 23 Canadians, they all want to know...
"Who gives a rats azz about texas."

Go drill some oil, if you got any left. (How does someone breathe in a "dustbowl"?

   



Johnnybgoodaaaaa @ Sat Mar 12, 2005 2:25 pm

I enjoy listening to Canadians, and have had great conversations with many nice and civil people on this site. While differences do arise, I don't go around saying "well, since that person acted like this, then all must be like this." American is just a nationality, NOT a race. As far as trade issues go, I just want everything to be fair. As I have heard from Canadians, our government is fucking them over in some places. I would hope that things would be done in a fair way which doesn't hurt either side, and that's my point of view on most issues. According to you though, this is not how Americans think. None of us give a shit about anything, we go overseas to eat at mcdonalds and tell people how they should be American, and we all shoot each other. Not the case. While this is a Canadian site, if people like you are going to go around saying the things you do, why can't we Americans defend ourselves against such things? Just because you have a degree at MIT doesn't mean your opinion is suddenly gold and should be held as the absolute truth. Bush has a degree from Yale or whatever, so does that mean all that he says and does is suddenly true?

My simple point to you was that we are not all like you describe. For someone with a degree, you certainly generalize, use messed up assumptions of what Americans are, and then label me as a typical American when I get pisses because you basically say I'm stupid, everyone I know is stupid, and that you are right because you post websites which I have heard of most the info ALREADY. I don't even eat mcdonalds in the US.

"A Bigot is someone who goes by their own personal consensus and prejudice without the even desire to be informed (aka americans)"

I'm informing you that all Americans are not as you speak, yet you still stick with your opinion that we all are. Alex Jones is someone who informs people and can be respected. Why? Because he goes out on the street and talks to them and gets people to listen. You on the other hand automatically assume we are all idiots and that you can tells us we are stupid while showing your vast knowledge. All Canadians ARE NOT like you. I have talked to many people on here who are nice, while getting their point accross and telling us about fucked up things our government has done. Who says you have to be so mean towards people? What does what Americans do overseas have to do with trade policies with Canada? You said we all look for mcdonalds and basically ignore the local culture, while Canadians soak it all up. That's completely half-true, if even a quarter true, and only about a certain percentage of Americans, which can be true of tourist from other nations at the same time. It's good to know that some Canadians sit around talking about how Americans act in other countries while they are enjoying themselves at resturants. I, on the other hand, can't picture myself sitting around making such judgements about people I don't even know.

So you have met thousands of Americans? Did you go around, collect huge amounts of data, and do extensive research into these thousands of Americans minds, including backround information into their education history, religious beliefs, family history, etc? Did you talk politics with all these Americans, go to universities and talk with politic science majors, history majors, have huge town hall meetings with people from all walks of life, go downtown into the worst neighborhoods to get peoples opinions, or go to places where companies work on the trade policies? Did you go straight to the government, ask congressmen what they think of the trade policies with Canada, or did you go from every single state, every single income level, every single job area, and ask different people from those fields what they think of what you know? Did you talk to tons of younger people, between the ages of 18-30 what they think, and old people at the same time? News junkies, or oblivious reality show lovers? I mean really, I suppose none of those exist in the United States because we all LOVE the president, and follow him no matter what. We must conform to whatever the media tells us. We never think for ourselves, we're all a bunch of sheep. Damn, sucks being me. We hate the world actually, I think we should bomb every country and take it over, and the biggest thing on my agenda, which I always write to my congressmen about, is screwing over Canada and making sure we have trade policies which are unfair and only benefit the US. Can you sense the sarcasm :lol:

Really man, take a chill pill and realize that alot of us just want fair policies with all countries, but if you are going to go off on Americans and tell them how much they suck, and "anti-yankee" you are, how dumb we are, and then make it like you are only trying to inform us, you will never get through. I'm surprised a college educated person like you can be so petty and not understand the common psychology that you will never get people on your side if you automatically attack them and put them down. I would like to help Canada if I could, and want things to be far, as I'm sure plenty of Americans would if they knew their country was screwing over another(keep in mind I've heard about the soft wood lumber issue and have heard from Canadians here plenty about the US having unfair trade policies), but if you come around attacking us for how we act in other countries, using fucking BRITNEY SPEARS as an example of what you think all Americans are, and even saying we all shoot each other and are dumb, you will never get anywhere. Maybe you should go back to college and take some psychology courses, or some anger management?

   



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