US to allow it's citizens passport free travel to Canada
2Cdo @ Wed Mar 28, 2007 1:17 pm
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You sure know a lot about nothing.
it was a joke you humourless droneyes I can see you automatically wouldn't find any joke aimed at the Conservative party funny
I think it's more that no one finds YOU funny period.
Tricks @ Wed Mar 28, 2007 1:40 pm
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don't be silly, you're jumping to conclusions believe me there's a world of difference between intelligence/work ethic and having academic qualifications. This has nothing to do with who stays in school, the fact is school dropouts aren't likely to be conservatives or liberals because they don't generally vote
What? That didn't make any sense.edit in bold, hope it makes sense now
Wullu @ Wed Mar 28, 2007 4:45 pm
In the process now of getting a new passport myself. It seemed to me that as a serving member of the Canadian Forces that the govt probably has all my records on hand and it would be an easy out.
Nope.
A little background... To be a member of the CF with a security clearance you have to be a citizen and the references for the clearance.
I contact them and find out that my military ID is not good enough?????? A birth certificate from Nova Scotia is good but a serialized ID from the federal govt is not? I made the point that we work for the same folks, ain't it possible to just go into the records and get the info they need. Seemed like both a time and money saver to me. Nope.
Not trying to say I should get special treatment because I am in the navy, but damn folks, why do people who have all this data already on file need to do it all over again? Wasting my time and govt time and money where a simple cross deck of of info from one govt organization to another accomplishes everything.
/rant
TheFoundersIntent @ Thu Mar 29, 2007 9:07 am
Maybe a red maple leaf tattooed on your foreheads would help. Of course some may thinks it's the sign of the beast.
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IcedCap @ Thu Mar 29, 2007 9:12 am
I've provided some evidence to back up my academic qualifications statement and it's all gone quiet 
Clogeroo @ Thu Mar 29, 2007 9:22 am
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In the process now of getting a new passport myself. It seemed to me that as a serving member of the Canadian Forces that the govt probably has all my records on hand and it would be an easy out.
Nope.
A little background... To be a member of the CF with a security clearance you have to be a citizen and the references for the clearance.
I contact them and find out that my military ID is not good enough?????? A birth certificate from Nova Scotia is good but a serialized ID from the federal govt is not? I made the point that we work for the same folks, ain't it possible to just go into the records and get the info they need. Seemed like both a time and money saver to me. Nope.
Not trying to say I should get special treatment because I am in the navy, but damn folks, why do people who have all this data already on file need to do it all over again? Wasting my time and govt time and money where a simple cross deck of of info from one govt organization to another accomplishes everything.
You could try shagging the person behind the front desk sometimes that is how you get ahead in some places?
IcedCap @ Mon Apr 02, 2007 11:49 am
CDNBear? Tricks? Ruez? anyone or can I assume your silence is acceptance that I was right
RUEZ @ Mon Apr 02, 2007 12:09 pm
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CDNBear? Tricks? Ruez? anyone or can I assume your silence is acceptance that I was right
IcedCap @ Mon Apr 02, 2007 12:19 pm
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Where's your evidence? So sorry we can't sit by our computers and answer as soon as you'd like your highness.
its on the previous page
RUEZ @ Mon Apr 02, 2007 12:28 pm
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Where's your evidence? So sorry we can't sit by our computers and answer as soon as you'd like your highness.
its on the previous page
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because a conservative voter is less likely to hold a passport since Tory supporters are more rural, longer established in Canada and ,this is really going to upset you all, have less academic qualifications than liberal voters.
Banff @ Mon Apr 02, 2007 12:35 pm
It all makes sense that freedom of movement between Canada should exist but be limited to just that .No dual citizenship nor residence in both countries (one or the other but not both ) This would make both Canadians and Americans happier and stop them from whining about everything ...like each other is a threat to each others livelyhoods .
Canadians and Americans are equal economic terrorists to each other .Business is business , tourism is tourism , and home is home . Canada is a mouse and the US is an Elephant , both rip off their citizens and surprisingly they are so legislated I'm quite surprised there is no legislation on legal and illegal ways to tie your shoe laces . BUT ....in the long run Canada Kicks Ass except for our business and political citizens who are crossed between being cowards and "VERY" ANTI-CANADIAN when dealing with the US .
IcedCap @ Mon Apr 02, 2007 1:25 pm
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I'm sorry I don't see it. You're going to have to point out your evidence that proves this:
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because a conservative voter is less likely to hold a passport since Tory supporters are more rural, longer established in Canada and ,this is really going to upset you all, have less academic qualifications than liberal voters.
I've provided some survey evidence that indicates that the higher the academic qualifications the more likely people are to hold liberal political views, if you're expecting a survey that says explicitly "Tory supporters are less likely to hold a passport" then you're not going to get it.
RUEZ @ Mon Apr 02, 2007 1:53 pm
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I'm sorry I don't see it. You're going to have to point out your evidence that proves this:
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because a conservative voter is less likely to hold a passport since Tory supporters are more rural, longer established in Canada and ,this is really going to upset you all, have less academic qualifications than liberal voters.
I've provided some survey evidence that indicates that the higher the academic qualifications the more likely people are to hold liberal political views, if you're expecting a survey that says explicitly "Tory supporters are less likely to hold a passport" then you're not going to get it.
IcedCap @ Tue Apr 03, 2007 4:59 am
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So you've basically proven nothing.
Er no, I've given you some research that would support my claim that conservatives have on average less academic qualifications than liberals.
Now as for conservatives having more support amongst rural than urban voters I hope you're not going to argue with that surely. The urbanite is more likely to have a passport for any number of reasons exposure to foreign cultures, access to passport offices, location of airports making it easier/cheaper to travel and more likely to be in a job that requires travel overseas.
I think even the other cons agreed with the comment about the conservatives having less support amongst "new" Canadians and being a "new" Canadian you'd be much more likely to have family or other interests overseas that you would need a passport to visit.