Joining the Canadian Forces

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EyeBrock @ Sun Jan 09, 2011 1:38 pm

You get far less training in the civilian police versus the MP's? I think not ginger.

SprCForr @ Sun Jan 09, 2011 3:31 pm

Doing basic isn't a downside and it's unavoidable whatever your route. It's an opportunity to expose yourself to the culture, learn the minimum acceptable standards and provides a challenge.

If your physically fit enough already, then look at it as a chance to improve and get paid for it. How could that be a "downside", hmm?

:wink:

EyeBrock @ Sun Jan 09, 2011 3:44 pm

Basic is something that was hard, but memorable. I made great mates there that I still have contact with. Shared hardship makes strong bonds. It's something that we lucky few never regret doing.

SprCForr @ Sun Jan 09, 2011 3:50 pm

It's funny how it worked. Basic is a challenge when you've yet to face it, after you've done it, it's actually the easiest part of your career.

Strange how fear of the unknown works.

EyeBrock @ Sun Jan 09, 2011 3:52 pm

Tough at the the time but really, it prepares you for the challenges to come. I was 16 1/2 when I did it. Big shock it was!

Benn @ Sun Jan 09, 2011 4:14 pm

ginger ginger:

Exactly. I have a Communications and Business French degree with honours, but to become a direct entry MPO you need a degree in Criminology, Psych, Sociology, Political Science, etc. I mean, really? I took criminology courses in University, but chose not to major in it because I wanted a degree that kept my options open. I know that my degree is in no way inferior to the particular liberal arts degrees that they ask for, but oh well, I just grin and bear it. I think it's ridiculous. It's not like they know more about law than I do necessarily. Even more, for an Intelligence Officer, they want a journalism degree. Communications and Journalism are the same thing! But not according to the CF! To become an MP, you must have a Police Foundations diploma. My degree was sufficient for that, since it was higher education. Yet for a civilian police service, all you need is a High School Diploma, AND get far less training. Makes no sense to me, but like I said, I just go with the flow, and hope to become an Officer eventually. The only downside is that, since I am applying as a NCM, I will have to do basic training if I am lucky to get accepted. One downside.

I know of a guy who has a criminology degree who was just turned down by the Winnipeg Police. More to the job than what you took in school obviously.

Benn @ Sun Jan 09, 2011 4:26 pm

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

Tough at the the time but really, it prepares you for the challenges to come. I was 16 1/2 when I did it. Big shock it was!

Big and good. The shock straightened me out at least.

SprCForr @ Sun Jan 09, 2011 4:56 pm

The shock was when a old "fat" guy who smoked like a chimney kicked our arrogant teen asses at PT all the while dressed combats. The guy wore jungle boots with no socks for runs.

That was my first exposure to the you do/I do style of leadership as opposed to the then very common I say/you do style.

ginger @ Sun Jan 09, 2011 5:22 pm

Sorry, I didn't mean to imply that basic training was a dreaded downside. I know there are countless benefits to it. More than anyone can say. I suppose I was just comparing direct entry to doing an extra 13 weeks of training. Needless to say, if I get the opportunity to start basic, I will be pretty happy.

SprCForr @ Sun Jan 09, 2011 5:29 pm

You mean 13 weeks of extra pay, right?

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