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Theres a petition to reinstate the Royal designation in our navy and air force. It's sponsored by a member of parliament(on the site I will provide, support by 2/3 members of army.ca, and supported by general Hillier.

Heres the site http://ww.rcn-rcaf.blogspot.com

   

Sorry Crn....the link don't work

   

Oh, sorry, I forgot a W. it should be http://www.rcn-rcaf.blogspot.com

   

I don't see the point. Canada's ties with Britain are quite weak at this time and will only continue to weaken. It won't be long(I predict 3 or 4 generations) until Canadians demand a complete severing of those ties.

   

Bringing back some semblance of the old traditions would be kinda nice - also the Royal thing just sounds better and would serve to remind a few people in the world that Canada is part of a Commonwealth.

   

I'd reverse it simply because there was no reason to change it in the first place, all it did was bugger up morale in the services.

God damn Trudeau, all the damage that zero caused.

   

While I don't care much for the RCN moniker, it is far better than Maritime Command. Whoever thought up Air Command in place of RCAF should be strung up by his thumbs...

   

Yes the commands do sound quite stupid. Be better off putting them back to their previous names. I would rather say I'm in the RCN than "MARCOM".

   

"Royal" is not a tie to Britain, it is a tie to the Canadian Sovereign, the head of the fully independent Canadian state. The last tie to Britain was officially severed in 1982, and was virtually nonexistent for decades before that.

Unfortunately, I don't think this will be successful. If it isn't, I think it would be a good idea to at least press for "Royal Canadian Forces."

   

Or could just call them the Canadian Army, Canadian Air force, and Canadian Navy like some people already do? or Canada's Air force or Canada's Navy. But the old names are more historic and have more meaning. Anything really but command though.

   

If the government ever officially uses the terms "Canadian Air Force" and "Canadian Navy", they are obligated to attach "Royal" to them.

   

Actually this is one of the few screwups in Canada you can't blame PET for. It was the Defense Minister under Lester Pearson, The Right Honorable Paul Hellyer who was the catalyst for and chief architect of integration.

From what I have gleaned Mr Hellyer was ex military, apparently a corporal in the Army at some point during his youth. This is likely the reason for his Napoleon complex when he was Minister of National Defense.

After looking back at the scenario for integration, it becomes apparent that even back then the Liberal Government had decided to downsize the Military during the Pearson reign. So, given the requirements of a much smaller military it wasn't financially feasible to continue to have three seperate commands, with 3 headquarters, supply systems and Senior Officers lobbying for money from the government. The only logical( and I use the term losely) thing to do was to give them all a nice new green uniform and integrate them into a unified command. To hell with tradition and heritage, this was the new age, a new flag and now a new military.

All this being said, the integration and the amalgamting of the services didn't sit well with alot of people, which resulted in wholesale releases thoughout the military. This may have been the governments plan all along, since it became the first unofficial forces reduction program.

And you wonder why this was allowed to happen under Hellyers watch. I think it was just pure vendictiveness against the Military, but I could be wrong. It also might be a lack of mental accuity that caused him to do this. After a failed run at the leadership of the Liberal Party in 68 he kind of faded from sight till 2005. When like the Phoenix he arose again and made headlines of the type that your family doesn't want to hear about.

In 2005 Mr Hellyer discoverd the exhistance of alien life after reading a book about it. He then accused President Bush of plotting intergalatic war and topped it off with

So I hope this helps explain why this time it wasn't Trudeau who screwed us, but some disgruntled Minister of National Defense with a Napoleon complex and questionable mental faculties.

   

Nice post with good attention to detail.
The Right Honorable Paul Hellyer is the one who recently has been very worried about the flying saucer people too.
http://www.ufobc.ca/Beyond/exopolitics.htm

   

Fair enough they might as well go back to their old names again. But how come it is not the Royal Maritime Command then?

   

I don't know, but it would probably be easier to shoot for RMC than RCN. RCN, as much as it may not be, will always be seen as going back in time, whereas RMC could at least be seen as "going forward" in some way.

   

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