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Um... No you twit. Being left or right wing means you have that opinion on issues, not a bias you stupid fuck. Learn what the word means before tossing it around.

   

Lets try to keep things a bit more civil in here guys, you may feel strongly about your own position but agrue the points. There's no need for name calling or flaming

   

At the time this what was being said by the local government to justify an unConstitutional seizure of lawfully owned firearms.

Several incidents where police shot and killed "armed" refugees later turned out to be acts of murder against unarmed citizens who were desperate to escape the hellhole that New Orleans became after the storm. Seven police officers have been convicted of these crimes so far with some twenty more still pending convictions for civil rights violations and etc.

The Federal Courts ruled the seizure of the lawfully owned arms to be illegal and the City of New Orleans has been found in contempt of court for initially refusing to return legally owned arms to their proper owners.

A friend of mine who works for Blackwater was doing security for the media in New Orleans and said he'd repeatedly had problems with LEO's who tried to steal media vehicles, their supplies, and he said the LEO's repeatedly and illegally tried to disarm him and his people several times and several times he came close to combat with LEO's.

The biggest problem in New Orleans after the storm was not with armed citizens, but with cops acting illegally and inhumanly.

   

Also, I was once asked if I would shoot at American citizens if ordered to and my reply was that I would not hesitate one second to shoot the person who gave the order.

I was never asked the question again.

   

   

   

No you twit. Saying I liked what Harper did at one time is an opinion. That doesn't stop me from saying he fucked up on something else. If I said that Harper can do no wrong and should be grand poobah, that's bias. Man go back to school.

   

This is actually a good topic if you can discuss it honestly. Probably most bullets in the world are fired by one citizen at another fellow citizen. That is the nature of guns.

However... on the issue of military ordered strikes. Yea, it is in the oath... all enemies foreign and domestic.

In the U.S. Navy I was in a rifle squad trained to face off against fellow Americans. We had rifles and bayonets... but were not issued bullets. I told my fellow riflemen that I intended not to shoot anybody. We were called out to the front gate of the base, but the supposed threat did not show up as the intelligence had warned, so we stood down... a non event, except we had been training for it and we did assemble for action. However it made me think. There are some things that were not talked about too much and never made the news.

Most civilians didn't know that there were contingencies for domestic action, but I was there and did the training, lots of bayonet drills.... We were told specifically that we were training for civil unrest. I think there were second thoughts because this seemed to be a phase that came and went.

Of course the National Guard has been called out many times. Soldiers will tend to follow their training and think about it later.

My recommendation though is that if a soldier with a gun tells you to leave the area.. it would be a good idea to leave.

   

What if those American citizens were enemies of the state?

   

   

Ever wonder why Mikey Moore et al is never hardly seen in public?

   

   

   

Try "hardly ever" then.

   

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