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GerryHurt @ Tue Jun 05, 2007 8:10 pm
kal kal:
Under most circumstances, yes. The only differance between that and what you're saying is that you believe it should be under all circumstances.
under what circumstances could he not.....and would that right also extend to the grandparents?
kal @ Tue Jun 05, 2007 8:12 pm
GerryHurt GerryHurt:
kal kal:
Under most circumstances, yes. The only differance between that and what you're saying is that you believe it should be under all circumstances.
under what circumstances could he not.....and would that right also extend to the grandparents?
I already covered this. Go read my previous posts.
GerryHurt @ Tue Jun 05, 2007 9:05 pm
kal kal:
GerryHurt GerryHurt:
kal kal:
Under most circumstances, yes. The only differance between that and what you're saying is that you believe it should be under all circumstances.
under what circumstances could he not.....and would that right also extend to the grandparents?
I already covered this. Go read my previous posts.
Really? This is about all I could find that wasn't so vague as to be useless
$1:
Early in the pregnancy I feel the fetus is still part of the woman's body, and I'm a firm believer that a woman should be free to do what she wants with her body. And as I said before, only when all parties concerned decide it is necessary. I know necessary is subjective, which is a big problem with abortion.
I do not advocate abortion as a method of birth control. The thought of anyone using it as such makes me sick. But somehow I have the feeling you already assumed I didn't care about that.
I do not advocate abortion as a method of birth control. The thought of anyone using it as such makes me sick. But somehow I have the feeling you already assumed I didn't care about that.
Really doesn't answer my question now....does it.
kal @ Wed Jun 06, 2007 7:10 am
GerryHurt GerryHurt:
kal kal:
GerryHurt GerryHurt:
kal kal:
Under most circumstances, yes. The only differance between that and what you're saying is that you believe it should be under all circumstances.
under what circumstances could he not.....and would that right also extend to the grandparents?
I already covered this. Go read my previous posts.
Really? This is about all I could find that wasn't so vague as to be useless
Then maybe you should go look again
$1:
$1:
Early in the pregnancy I feel the fetus is still part of the woman's body, and I'm a firm believer that a woman should be free to do what she wants with her body. And as I said before, only when all parties concerned decide it is necessary. I know necessary is subjective, which is a big problem with abortion.
I do not advocate abortion as a method of birth control. The thought of anyone using it as such makes me sick. But somehow I have the feeling you already assumed I didn't care about that.
I do not advocate abortion as a method of birth control. The thought of anyone using it as such makes me sick. But somehow I have the feeling you already assumed I didn't care about that.
Really doesn't answer my question now....does it.
Not the grandparents part, but it answers the other part. And sure, I would extend the right to the grandparents to raise the child. I wouldn't have a problem with that. Not everyone has grandparents though.
See I think where you and I are having a conflict (aside from the obvious difference in opinion) is you're trying to put a blanket rule over all situations, and you're assuming I'm doing the same. I'm not. I think each case would be very, very specific and hence you can't create a blanket rule for it, you just can't account for all of the possible variables.
kathematics @ Wed Jun 06, 2007 11:28 am
oh, just let these bozos go on. theyre just so vitriolic because they know that theyre powerless. they have no control over what they believe in and it burns them up.
too bad. any other topics you want to whine about people? how liberals screwed you over? how everything is someone else's fault? get real
kaetz @ Wed Jun 06, 2007 2:18 pm
Riyko Riyko:
kaetz kaetz:
Riyko Riyko:
I've already watched videos like that in school about abortion. My stance on abortion is unless it was rape or incest then the woman should be required to have the child. It doesn't matter your age if your going to have sex (protected or unprotected) then your responsible enough to take care of a child. Would I be considered pro life?
what exactly do you consider an incest? you know, there are quite different opinions on this account exist.
actually i don't understand your stance regarding incest at all... i thought the DEAD itself was considered a sin (or whatever it is to you).
not all incests are rapes, far from all, i guess (don't possess any stats but maybe lily will come up with any), and not all of them are born with some defections.
And since the child was conceived "in love" (or during a free-will sex, whatever) and have all chances to be born healthy, why an exception should be done for those who slept with their relatives???
To me incest is anyone that is related to you up until 2nd counsins after that it can't really be considered incest. I never said that all incests are rape I was saying if the woman was raped or if it was incest.
Why does it matter what I posted, I have a deeper reason for talking about incest in my post then what people may think. I'm not going to post my reasons and why I feel so deeply for it because it's no ones business and very personal to me. I don't care if it was forced or if it was willingly you shouldn't be allowed to have the child especally considering that the relationship is illegal (unless of course it's different in canada or elsewhere). I will admit the state i'm from allows first cousins to marry, but if they are 65 or older or if they are 55 with evidence of sterility.
Answer me this, what is incest to you?
if something bad happened with you or in your family,it doesnt actually mean this will necessarily repeat with other people. i didnt ask you to give you private reasons.
"shouldnt be allowed to have child" - WOW! that was harsh! don't generalise your tragedy
but ok, if i want to have an abortion done, i just go to the clinic, say that i slept with my cousin and get it... simple as it is
Wally_Sconce @ Wed Jun 06, 2007 2:26 pm
30 abortions in Canada for every 100 births?
That number is truly disturbing.
That tells me that 30% of canadian women are extreme narcisistic.
My contempt for abortion just grew dramatically.
kal @ Wed Jun 06, 2007 2:39 pm
Aging_Redneck Aging_Redneck:
30 abortions in Canada for every 100 births?
That number is truly disturbing.
That tells me that 30% of canadian women are extreme narcisistic.
My contempt for abortion just grew dramatically.
That number is truly disturbing.
That tells me that 30% of canadian women are extreme narcisistic.
My contempt for abortion just grew dramatically.
Not quite 30%. The ratio is 30/130, so it's actually about 23%. Still far to high.
GerryHurt @ Wed Jun 06, 2007 3:00 pm
kal kal:
Aging_Redneck Aging_Redneck:
30 abortions in Canada for every 100 births?
That number is truly disturbing.
That tells me that 30% of canadian women are extreme narcisistic.
My contempt for abortion just grew dramatically.
That number is truly disturbing.
That tells me that 30% of canadian women are extreme narcisistic.
My contempt for abortion just grew dramatically.
Not quite 30%. The ratio is 30/130, so it's actually about 23%. Still far to high.
Direct from the statscan site that I provided a link to
$1:
"The number of induced abortions per 100 live births decreased to 31.0 in 2003, from 32.1 in 2002."
also:
$1:
Induced abortions continue to be most common among women in their twenties, who accounted for 53% of all women who obtained an abortion in 2003. On average, 26 women out of every 1,000 in their twenties obtained an abortion.
and I am sure that all these young women felt that the baby she murdered was "necessary"
kal @ Wed Jun 06, 2007 3:06 pm
GerryHurt GerryHurt:
kal kal:
Aging_Redneck Aging_Redneck:
30 abortions in Canada for every 100 births?
That number is truly disturbing.
That tells me that 30% of canadian women are extreme narcisistic.
My contempt for abortion just grew dramatically.
That number is truly disturbing.
That tells me that 30% of canadian women are extreme narcisistic.
My contempt for abortion just grew dramatically.
Not quite 30%. The ratio is 30/130, so it's actually about 23%. Still far to high.
Direct from the statscan site that I provided a link to
$1:
"The number of induced abortions per 100 live births decreased to 31.0 in 2003, from 32.1 in 2002."
30 abortions per 100 live births, not per 100 pregnancies. That means out of 130 pregnancies, 30 are aborted, 100 are live birth. Ration of 30/130 = 23%.
$1:
also:
and I am sure that all these young women felt that the baby she murdered was "necessary"
$1:
Induced abortions continue to be most common among women in their twenties, who accounted for 53% of all women who obtained an abortion in 2003. On average, 26 women out of every 1,000 in their twenties obtained an abortion.
and I am sure that all these young women felt that the baby she murdered was "necessary"
I'm sure they did. That doesn't mean I think it was necessary. When are you going to get it through your thick fucking skull that I don't think abortion should be allowed in most cases? I must have said that 4 or 5 times already
GerryHurt @ Wed Jun 06, 2007 3:11 pm
kal kal:
GerryHurt GerryHurt:
$1:
Induced abortions continue to be most common among women in their twenties, who accounted for 53% of all women who obtained an abortion in 2003. On average, 26 women out of every 1,000 in their twenties obtained an abortion.
and I am sure that all these young women felt that the baby she murdered was "necessary"
Edit: I'm sure they did. That doesn't mean I think it was necessary. When are you going to get it through your thick fucking skull that I don't think abortion should be allowed in most cases? I must have said that 4 or 5 times already
Yet you support "pro-choice" which allows all of this. Hows that fence pole feel up your ass?
kal @ Wed Jun 06, 2007 3:28 pm
GerryHurt GerryHurt:
kal kal:
GerryHurt GerryHurt:
$1:
Induced abortions continue to be most common among women in their twenties, who accounted for 53% of all women who obtained an abortion in 2003. On average, 26 women out of every 1,000 in their twenties obtained an abortion.
and I am sure that all these young women felt that the baby she murdered was "necessary"
Edit: I'm sure they did. That doesn't mean I think it was necessary. When are you going to get it through your thick fucking skull that I don't think abortion should be allowed in most cases? I must have said that 4 or 5 times already
Yet you support "pro-choice" which allows all of this. Hows that fence pole feel up your ass?
I also support aspects of socialism -that doesn't mean I'm a communist. How's that extremist pole feel up your ass?
GerryHurt @ Wed Jun 06, 2007 3:43 pm
kal kal:
GerryHurt GerryHurt:
kal kal:
GerryHurt GerryHurt:
$1:
Induced abortions continue to be most common among women in their twenties, who accounted for 53% of all women who obtained an abortion in 2003. On average, 26 women out of every 1,000 in their twenties obtained an abortion.
and I am sure that all these young women felt that the baby she murdered was "necessary"
Edit: I'm sure they did. That doesn't mean I think it was necessary. When are you going to get it through your thick fucking skull that I don't think abortion should be allowed in most cases? I must have said that 4 or 5 times already
Yet you support "pro-choice" which allows all of this. Hows that fence pole feel up your ass?
I also support aspects of socialism -that doesn't mean I'm a communist. How's that extremist pole feel up your ass?
If being pro-life means I'm an extremist....I will gladly have that hung around my neck...or that pole up my ass.
kal @ Wed Jun 06, 2007 3:51 pm
GerryHurt GerryHurt:
kal kal:
GerryHurt GerryHurt:
kal kal:
GerryHurt GerryHurt:
$1:
Induced abortions continue to be most common among women in their twenties, who accounted for 53% of all women who obtained an abortion in 2003. On average, 26 women out of every 1,000 in their twenties obtained an abortion.
and I am sure that all these young women felt that the baby she murdered was "necessary"
Edit: I'm sure they did. That doesn't mean I think it was necessary. When are you going to get it through your thick fucking skull that I don't think abortion should be allowed in most cases? I must have said that 4 or 5 times already
Yet you support "pro-choice" which allows all of this. Hows that fence pole feel up your ass?
I also support aspects of socialism -that doesn't mean I'm a communist. How's that extremist pole feel up your ass?
If being pro-life means I'm an extremist....I will gladly have that hung around my neck...or that pole up my ass.
And if being pro-choice under very extenuating circumstances means I have a fence pole up my ass -oh wait, it doesn't. I don't support the current legal system's way of handling abortion, I think it should be overhauled. But of course you're like a religious extremist so everybody who doesn't agree with you 100% is dead wrong and is 100% for the other side of the argument. Poor you. I couldn't imagine having such a narrow view of things.
GerryHurt @ Wed Jun 06, 2007 3:54 pm
kal kal:
And if being pro-choice under very extenuating circumstances means I have a fence pole up my ass -oh wait, it doesn't. I don't support the current legal system's way of handling abortion, I think it should be overhauled. But of course you're like a religious extremist so everybody who doesn't agree with you 100% is dead wrong and is 100% for the other side of the argument. Poor you. I couldn't imagine having such a narrow view of things.
Current legal system's way of handling abortion?????? and what way is that pray tell?
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