Canada Kicks Ass
Should US Army Deserters Be Deported From Canada?

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GordieCanuk @ Fri Jan 09, 2009 9:18 pm

An Angus Reid poll says that 64% of Canadians are in favour of granting them asylum, and a motion passed in our own Parliament...you know that democratically elected body...a motion calling for the government to halt all deportation orders.

Whaddyer all think? Personally I'm in favour of letting them stay. Just because you sign on the dotted line and volunteer doesn't mean you're forced to abandon your own personal moral compass and sense of conscience...or at least I don't think so.

   



Gunnair @ Fri Jan 09, 2009 9:20 pm

Then don't sign on the dotted line.

They should be deported.

   



Mockingbird @ Fri Jan 09, 2009 9:23 pm

But when you do sign on the dotted line and join the military you have to know there is a chance you will be called to action. I would feel differently if they were drafted, but not when they vulunteered. If morally you oppose a military's purpose, don't join to begin with. So I say send the deserters back to face the consequences.

   



RUEZ @ Fri Jan 09, 2009 9:27 pm

Kick the bums out of here. They can't honour that commitment we don't want them.

   



Scape @ Fri Jan 09, 2009 9:31 pm

Deserters need to go to countries that don't have extradiction treaties with the US. Send the lazy morons home to face the music.

   



GordieCanuk @ Fri Jan 09, 2009 9:37 pm

Scape Scape:
Deserters need to go to countries that don't have extradiction treaties with the US. Send the lazy morons home to face the music.
So if a US soldier is ordered to committ a war crime...they should shut up and obey??? And if they desert then they're cowards?

   



Freakinoldguy @ Fri Jan 09, 2009 9:39 pm

They wanted the benefits of military life, without the consequences.

As much as I disagreed with the Vietnam war draft dodges at least they had the courage of their convictions, whatever they may have been.

Send them home.

The reality is that they should be thankful that their Government shut down Fort Leavenworth Army prison.

I stand corrected, it would appear that it is still in operation, so I really hope they enjoy their stay there.

   



mtbr @ Fri Jan 09, 2009 9:39 pm

send them back.

   



RUEZ @ Fri Jan 09, 2009 9:42 pm

GordieCanuk GordieCanuk:
Scape Scape:
Deserters need to go to countries that don't have extradiction treaties with the US. Send the lazy morons home to face the music.
So if a US soldier is ordered to committ a war crime...they should shut up and obey??? And if they desert then they're cowards?

These aren't war crimes they are running from.

   



Yogi @ Fri Jan 09, 2009 9:43 pm

KIck in the ass, and show them the door!

   



hwacker @ Fri Jan 09, 2009 9:44 pm

GordieCanuk GordieCanuk:
Scape Scape:
Deserters need to go to countries that don't have extradiction treaties with the US. Send the lazy morons home to face the music.
So if a US soldier is ordered to committ a war crime...they should shut up and obey??? And if they desert then they're cowards?


Are you making this up or are you speaking about something in particular ?

   



Streaker @ Fri Jan 09, 2009 9:46 pm

GordieCanuk GordieCanuk:
Scape Scape:
Deserters need to go to countries that don't have extradiction treaties with the US. Send the lazy morons home to face the music.
So if a US soldier is ordered to committ a war crime...they should shut up and obey??? And if they desert then they're cowards?


Good point.

Let 'em stay, no questions asked. No one should be forced to participate in an immoral action such as the US occupation and rape of Iraq.

   



GordieCanuk @ Fri Jan 09, 2009 9:47 pm

RUEZ RUEZ:
GordieCanuk GordieCanuk:
Scape Scape:
Deserters need to go to countries that don't have extradiction treaties with the US. Send the lazy morons home to face the music.
So if a US soldier is ordered to committ a war crime...they should shut up and obey??? And if they desert then they're cowards?

These aren't war crimes they are running from.


I'd suggest you look up

"Abu Gharib torture and prisoner abuse"
"Hamdania incident"
"Mahmudiyah killings"

Although given that the US hasn't signed onto declarations about war crimes, maybe they're not from the perspective of the US military.

   



commanderkai @ Fri Jan 09, 2009 9:48 pm

GordieCanuk GordieCanuk:
Whaddyer all think? Personally I'm in favour of letting them stay. Just because you sign on the dotted line and volunteer doesn't mean you're forced to abandon your own personal moral compass and sense of conscience...or at least I don't think so.


That makes no sense. You joined the military to fight and kill other people. If your moral compass had no qualms of signing that contract before the war, then you should face the consequences.

   



RUEZ @ Fri Jan 09, 2009 9:49 pm

GordieCanuk GordieCanuk:
I'd suggest you look up

"Abu Gharib torture and prisoner abuse"
"Hamdania incident"
"Mahmudiyah killings"

Although given that the US hasn't signed onto declarations about war crimes, maybe they're not from the perspective of the US military.
Were any of these soldiers asked to partake in this? How about they do the right thing and report these violations instead of running with their tail between their legs. If you witness a woman getting assaulted do you move to a new apartment so you don't see the assault anymore?

   



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