Canada Kicks Ass
Stephane Dion makes things up as he goes.

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Wally_Sconce @ Mon Jan 14, 2008 11:08 pm

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2007/01/ ... ronto.html

How is it possible, as Dion says, to have Canada make mega tonnes of money and not harm our economy while we reduce our CO2 emissions, while at the same time accepting the argument from China and India that they must be allowed special circumstances because it will harm their respective 'developing' economies?

So which one is it Stephane? If you believe in one, you can't believe in the other.

   



Wally_Sconce @ Mon Jan 14, 2008 11:15 pm

I just finished watching Stephane Dion on Yuotube doing the year end interview thing with Graham Richardson for CTV's Mike Duffy Live.

What a revealing interview it turned out to be.

It would seem that Dion, the self proclaimed hero and environmental champion, either has no clue about CO2 and Norway, or he does know and just decided to lie to the nation and hope nobody was paying attention. It is really too bad for old Stephane that some people were.


In a nutshell Dion stated that achieving the now impossible to achieve Kyoto targets would not be a burden on the economy but rather a boom for it, sort of rephrasing his earlier mega tonnes of money BS. When asked to give an example of another resource based (oil) economy the intellectual named Norway, a country that has increased it's emissions by 25% since 1990 and is now over it's goals by more than 30%.

How could Dion, a so called academic be this wrong with the facts on an issue that he claims is so important to him?

He didn't know and made it up or he did know and just lied about it. Either way he looks like a fool. Are you Liberals really sure that this is the guy you want to go to the polls with whenever the Liberals stop "postponing" the election? Because if what he said during the interview is any indication of what he is going to say during an election campaign, you had better start looking for a good venue for the next LPC leadership convention soon.


While we are on the topic of making stuff up, I see Dion again tried to smear the PM with a quote taken completely out of context, the 'so called greenhouse gases' quote. This originally came about when PM Harper was asked about how the governments environment plan differed from the Liberals plan: . "As we implement our clean-air agenda, the focus is a little different than the other parties. They focus only on so-called greenhouse gases and ignored smog entirely." He was speaking about smog and air pollution being included in the CPC plan, not about whether or not GHG were real or not. BTW these 4 words are very often used by many others as well.


So either Dion was listening to the likes of Cherniak who tried to run with the smear and does not know the true nature of the quote(that might explain the need for a new communications director for the LPC) or he does know and chose to use it anyway in an effort to deceive for political gain. Again, either way it does not look good on Dion with his promise to run a clean campaign.

Not that you can ever believe any Liberal promise, campaign or otherwise, but this stuff is ridiculous.


I also wanted to get into how the Liberals can possibly reconcile their ideas that reducing CO2 will benefit the economy, while at the same time not wanting to put the 'economic burden' of reducing CO2 on 'so called' developing countries such as China and India, but my time is short. Though somehow I am sure there will be more than a few opportunities to do so in the next few months as Liberals never seem to think anybody notices these contradictions in their policies.

   



Thanos @ Mon Jan 14, 2008 11:56 pm

Dion tanking in approval ratings

Over the past year, Liberal Leader Stephane Dion's approval rating has plummeted across Canada, according to a new Strategic Counsel poll.

The survey, conducted between Jan. 10-13 for CTV and The Globe and Mail, shows that Dion is the only national party leader to show a significant drop in support.

When respondents were asked if they found the leaders favourable, less than half said they had a good impression of Dion (difference between a Jan. 11-14, 2007 poll in brackets):

Stephen Harper, Conservatives: 58 per cent (+4)
Elizabeth May, Green Party: 56 per cent (-2)
Jack Layton, NDP: 55 per cent (-4)
Stephane Dion, Liberals: 39 per cent (-20)



-20? Holy sheep shit, Whitey! Let me be the first to say that it couldn't have happened to a more deserving guy.

   



Rats @ Mon Jan 14, 2008 11:58 pm

Vote that dork in and see how fast he becomes pro Quebec on everything he utters and bills passed as a PM. Wouldn't it be nice to have a leader who is not based in Quebec or Ontario? Harper is the only one who has hung around for more than six months.

   



Wally_Sconce @ Tue Jan 15, 2008 8:12 am

Harper is the only chance that we have at having a government that relies on all the provinces for votes.

   



kenmore @ Tue Jan 15, 2008 8:38 am

aging redneck are you on crack? Harper will be sent packing next election... he has pissed off newfoundland. ontario, now quebec... he has pissed off the first nations people and just about everyone else.. I know you have this dream (nightmare) of a tory majority but I hate to burst your bubble.. he's a gonner.... Cheers... vive le quebec

   



mtbr @ Tue Jan 15, 2008 8:58 am

Aging_Redneck Aging_Redneck:
Harper is the only chance that we have at having a government that relies on all the provinces for votes.


Good point! the tories are the only National Party that tries to do something for the whole country...whether thats kissing Quebec's ass or ignoring Alberta (which is why we vote for him in the first place). Unlike the Liberals and the NDP who only work for the regions that they can bribe.

But if Kenmore and his clan of whiny Liberals want to split up the country heck I say we should all vote Liberal and get this over with.

   



Wally_Sconce @ Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:51 am

kenmore kenmore:
aging redneck are you on crack? Harper will be sent packing next election... he has pissed off newfoundland. ontario, now quebec... he has pissed off the first nations people and just about everyone else.. I know you have this dream (nightmare) of a tory majority but I hate to burst your bubble.. he's a gonner.... Cheers... vive le quebec


He's already got a majority.

   



Wally_Sconce @ Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:55 am

mtbr mtbr:
Aging_Redneck Aging_Redneck:
Harper is the only chance that we have at having a government that relies on all the provinces for votes.


Good point! the tories are the only National Party that tries to do something for the whole country...whether thats kissing Quebec's ass or ignoring Alberta (which is why we vote for him in the first place). Unlike the Liberals and the NDP who only work for the regions that they can bribe.

But if Kenmore and his clan of whiny Liberals want to split up the country heck I say we should all vote Liberal and get this over with.


Aint that the truth. I just want to be left alone and not get screwed. My goal is work hard, and go home to my family every night. so it is for most Albertans.

   



kenmore @ Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:44 pm

a majority? you cant count bush and the republicans... now I know you are on crack... and the only party that is not national is the bloc.. and as a Quebecer I dont vote for them.. the tories are headed down the toilet and harper is the big turd at the head of the team... bye bye...salut.! au revoir... bonjour monsieur prime minister Dion.... bienvenue!

   



ryan29 @ Wed Jan 16, 2008 2:30 pm

kenmore kenmore:
a majority? you cant count bush and the republicans... now I know you are on crack... and the only party that is not national is the bloc.. and as a Quebecer I dont vote for them.. the tories are headed down the toilet and harper is the big turd at the head of the team... bye bye...salut.! au revoir... bonjour monsieur prime minister Dion.... bienvenue!



what this comment makes no sense and isn't even about the topic .

   



Freakinoldguy @ Wed Jan 16, 2008 6:48 pm

kenmore kenmore:
a majority? you cant count bush and the republicans... now I know you are on crack... and the only party that is not national is the bloc.. and as a Quebecer I dont vote for them.. the tories are headed down the toilet and harper is the big turd at the head of the team... bye bye...salut.! au revoir... bonjour monsieur prime minister Dion.... bienvenue!


I never thought I'd say this but........................... Dion would be a bigger mistake for Canadians as PM than Trudeau was.

[titanic]

   



kenmore @ Wed Jan 16, 2008 7:45 pm

shit... Trudeau was the best thing to happen to Canada since Sir John A.... Dion will prove to be very good in office... I was going to totally ignore your comment freakinolduy but you cheer for Montreal Canadiens...cant be all bad....

   



Freakinoldguy @ Wed Jan 16, 2008 8:56 pm

kenmore kenmore:
shit... Trudeau was the best thing to happen to Canada since Sir John A.... Dion will prove to be very good in office... I was going to totally ignore your comment freakinolduy but you cheer for Montreal Canadiens...cant be all bad....


That is and will remain as a matter of conjecture since Dion will never get elected in his lifetime.

But the good news is that CBC is dropping leaf games to air more Habs, Senators and even Penquin games. It's about time that they discovered that Toronto isn't the center of the universe like Bob McCown from prime time sports seems to think.

   



dino_bobba_renno @ Wed Jan 16, 2008 9:52 pm

Aging_Redneck Aging_Redneck:

How is it possible, as Dion says, to have Canada make mega tonnes of money and not harm our economy while we reduce our CO2 emissions, while at the same time accepting the argument from China and India that they must be allowed special circumstances because it will harm their respective 'developing' economies?

So which one is it Stephane? If you believe in one, you can't believe in the other.


I don't know, I kind of believe the guy. I believe we will make "mega tonnes" of money by cutting CO2 emmisons. I also believe we will be driving cars that run on fairy dust going down bio-degradeable roads at some point in the future too.

   



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