Terrorist wanting to behead Harper
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danikyvor @ Tue Jun 06, 2006 2:14 pm
Well....that seems to be a matter of debate in one of the other threads Bart....
ridenrain @ Tue Jun 06, 2006 2:21 pm
So on one hand, these retards are whining that they are poor downtroden minorities who were victums of a huge RCMP entrapment, yet if they had their chance, they wouldn't mind killing the prime minister.
Making a great case for themselves.
Retard judges will probably let them out.
Bodah @ Tue Jun 06, 2006 3:35 pm
Considering the actual person in that pic was beheaded, your attempt at humor is sick and twisted and not even remotely funny. As much as I dislike some politicians I would never want to see any physical harm come to them.
But Im sure you posted that so you could get a rise out of some people here, your real life that boring ?
Later dumbass
Hardy @ Tue Jun 06, 2006 3:59 pm
IceOwl IceOwl:
In all of the news articles I've read, they're only accused of these things. There has been no mention of any actual proof of anything, only allegation. The only proof that I've seen was the makings of a cellphone detonator - that cements things, to be sure, but the media isn't doing a very good job of convincing me that they were really in any kind of "advanced planning stage."
I'm not sure whether there could BE any "advanced planning stage" for beheading Harper, with 17 mostly teenaged guys armed with paintball guns. I don't believe that the PM's security is so poor as to allow random sword-flailing persons to run up and decapitate him.
Buying $900 worth of fertilizer is one thing, that's an action, and a damning one. Flights of fancy about wanting to behead the PM are another, and I have yet to see any evidence that the wanting equated to intending, planning or trying. And if the guy actually thought he could pull it off, I'd have to wonder if he wasn't too insane to be much of a threat.
I'm thinking that the whole thing was just one guy's fantasy.
Jaime_Souviens @ Tue Jun 06, 2006 4:07 pm
MissT MissT:
Anyone else notice how "Steven Chand" is a distinctly un-islamic name? are some of these kids white?
Reports confirm he's a converted Hindu. Just to make things interesting.
Jaime_Souviens @ Tue Jun 06, 2006 4:11 pm
Hardy Hardy:
...Buying $900 worth of fertilizer is one thing, that's an action, and a damning one. Flights of fancy about wanting to behead the PM are another, and I have yet to see any evidence that the wanting equated to intending, planning or trying. And if the guy actually thought he could pull it off, I'd have to wonder if he wasn't too insane to be much of a threat.
I'm thinking that the whole thing was just one guy's fantasy.
I'm thinking that the whole thing was just one guy's fantasy.
The distinction is when someone takes a specific, physical action toward the claimed act.
But it's his lawyer who's admitting the claim, so it seems to be beyond any real doubt.
And using a real photograph of a decapitation for a joke isn't funny at all.
MissT @ Tue Jun 06, 2006 4:14 pm
Gotta say too, that's one lousy lawyer, going to the media and telling them about his client's alleged violent fantasies... Not exactly a great way to build a defence or make them seem innocent. What an idiot. Either that or News940 made it all up. It's not exactly a sturdy article either.
EyeBrock @ Tue Jun 06, 2006 4:19 pm
MissT MissT:
Gotta say too, that's one lousy lawyer, going to the media and telling them about his client's alleged violent fantasies... Not exactly a great way to build a defence or make them seem innocent. What an idiot. Either that or News940 made it all up. It's not exactly a sturdy article either.
I have to agree with you re the quality of Counsel. Then to slag off the PM for his statement to the house?
Even the NDP house leader thought that was silly. The trouble is with Rocco Galati and the like, they are more interested in resume building than the actual case.
I would think the defence guys will challenge every miniscule thing and drag these cases out for years.
Such is our 'justice' system.
Hardy @ Tue Jun 06, 2006 4:21 pm
Jaime_Souviens Jaime_Souviens:
Hardy Hardy:
...Buying $900 worth of fertilizer is one thing, that's an action, and a damning one. Flights of fancy about wanting to behead the PM are another, and I have yet to see any evidence that the wanting equated to intending, planning or trying. And if the guy actually thought he could pull it off, I'd have to wonder if he wasn't too insane to be much of a threat.
I'm thinking that the whole thing was just one guy's fantasy.
I'm thinking that the whole thing was just one guy's fantasy.
The distinction is when someone takes a specific, physical action toward the claimed act.
But it's his lawyer who's admitting the claim, so it seems to be beyond any real doubt.
The lawyer did not admit to any claim, only stated that the prosecution made one.
"'There's an allegation apparently that my client personally indicated that he wanted to behead the prime minister of Canada,' said Chand's lawyer, Gary Batasar. 'It's a very serious allegation. My client has said nothing about that.'
Speaking outside the courthouse, Batasar said the charges were based on fear-mongering government officials."
Arctic_Menace @ Tue Jun 06, 2006 4:21 pm
If they succeeded in beheading Harper, it would be a terrible thing. Not because our leader is dead, but because Peter MacKay is in charge from that point on.
This is why I'm glad Bush is alive today, because if he weren't, that psychopath Dick Cheney would be in power.....
Jaime_Souviens @ Tue Jun 06, 2006 4:22 pm
Who knows, maybe they have him on tape saying it, and the lawyer thought releasing it would either diminish a later impact, or would make the whole thing seem a little ridiculous.
I'm not saying it was right, or that even the whole story is true. ---Just that things can be complicated.
Hardy @ Tue Jun 06, 2006 4:27 pm
Arctic_Menace Arctic_Menace:
If they succeeded in beheading Harper, it would be a terrible thing. Not because our leader is dead, but because Peter MacKay is in charge from that point on.
This is why I'm glad Bush is alive today, because if he weren't, that psychopath Dick Cheney would be in power.....
This is why I'm glad Bush is alive today, because if he weren't, that psychopath Dick Cheney would be in power.....
Old tactic. "Nixon had quipped that Agnew was his insurance against impeachment, arguing that no one wanted to remove him if it meant elevating Agnew to the presidency."
http://www.senate.gov/artandhistory/his ... _Agnew.htm
Jaime_Souviens @ Tue Jun 06, 2006 4:30 pm
Hardy Hardy:
Jaime_Souviens Jaime_Souviens:
Hardy Hardy:
...Buying $900 worth of fertilizer is one thing, that's an action, and a damning one. Flights of fancy about wanting to behead the PM are another, and I have yet to see any evidence that the wanting equated to intending, planning or trying. And if the guy actually thought he could pull it off, I'd have to wonder if he wasn't too insane to be much of a threat.
I'm thinking that the whole thing was just one guy's fantasy.
I'm thinking that the whole thing was just one guy's fantasy.
The distinction is when someone takes a specific, physical action toward the claimed act.
But it's his lawyer who's admitting the claim, so it seems to be beyond any real doubt.
The lawyer did not admit to any claim, only stated that the prosecution made one.
"'There's an allegation apparently that my client personally indicated that he wanted to behead the prime minister of Canada,' said Chand's lawyer, Gary Batasar. 'It's a very serious allegation. My client has said nothing about that.'...
There you go.
SJ-24 @ Tue Jun 06, 2006 4:32 pm
Let's see....They had an initiator for the Nitrate....Complete with Bell Canada ring tones....They had 3 tons of Nitrate....And 4 of their party were already in jail for illegal importing of automatic and semi-automatic weapons...nah! I can't see a connection to any of this iether! 
As for hacking off Harper's head....I'm seeing on our local news that the threat goes back far enough that he was planning PM Martin's demise, not Harper's. So I guess the joke really isn't that funny after all is it!?! I really don't find it funny no matter which PM they were targeting. I say hook them up to a couple of 5000 volts, 40 AMP lines and help them meet their God just a little quicker...
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