Terrorist wanting to behead Harper
Hardy @ Tue Jun 06, 2006 4:47 pm
Jaime_Souviens Jaime_Souviens:
Hardy Hardy:
Jaime_Souviens Jaime_Souviens:
Hardy Hardy:
...Buying $900 worth of fertilizer is one thing, that's an action, and a damning one. Flights of fancy about wanting to behead the PM are another, and I have yet to see any evidence that the wanting equated to intending, planning or trying. And if the guy actually thought he could pull it off, I'd have to wonder if he wasn't too insane to be much of a threat.
I'm thinking that the whole thing was just one guy's fantasy.
I'm thinking that the whole thing was just one guy's fantasy.
The distinction is when someone takes a specific, physical action toward the claimed act.
But it's his lawyer who's admitting the claim, so it seems to be beyond any real doubt.
The lawyer did not admit to any claim, only stated that the prosecution made one.
"'There's an allegation apparently that my client personally indicated that he wanted to behead the prime minister of Canada,' said Chand's lawyer, Gary Batasar. 'It's a very serious allegation. My client has said nothing about that.'...
There you go.
I'm sure that there are any number of things which he had no intention of doing which he's never brought up. Either that, or he was extremely delusional to think he could succeed in such a plan with the resources he had. Kind of like Moussaoui:
"Xavier Amador diagnosed the Sept. 11, 2001, conspirator with paranoid schizophrenia after observing his actions and writings since 2002. He cited delusional beliefs firmly held by Moussaoui, including his conviction that President Bush will free him from prison and that his court-appointed lawyers are in a conspiracy to kill him."
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/04/ ... 6798.shtml
Meaningless fantasy or certifiable psychosis, take your pick.
Patrick_Ross @ Tue Jun 06, 2006 5:04 pm
tritium tritium:
I just don't get it. What is so wrong about wanting to behead Prime Minister Harper, sound like a plan to me.
I am sure half the Liberals in Canada wouldn't have much of a problem with it.
I am sure half the Liberals in Canada wouldn't have much of a problem with it.
Then they aren't truly liberals, and neither are you.
In fact, thinking it's alright for someone to be beheaded because you disagree with them is closer to fascism.
Robair Robair:
Not funny. Not even a little bit.
But this on the other hand:
Pure comedy!
But this on the other hand:
Pure comedy!
Fuck. That explains it.
He even looks like an idiot.
SJ-24 SJ-24:
As for hacking off Harper's head....I'm seeing on our local news that the threat goes back far enough that he was planning PM Martin's demise, not Harper's. So I guess the joke really isn't that funny after all is it!?! I really don't find it funny no matter which PM they were targeting. I say hook them up to a couple of 5000 volts, 40 AMP lines and help them meet their God just a little quicker...
Nothing could make this joke funny. It would be equally bad if it was a Paul Martin joke.
...Then again, this has already been said. I just want it to be known that I feel the same.
Bodah @ Tue Jun 06, 2006 5:19 pm
IceOwl IceOwl:
In all of the news articles I've read, they're only accused of these things. There has been no mention of any actual proof of anything, only allegation. The only proof that I've seen was the makings of a cellphone detonator - that cements things, to be sure, but the media isn't doing a very good job of convincing me that they were really in any kind of "advanced planning stage."
3 tons of ammonium nitrate
components to set it off
Semi-automatic weapons..
Still no proof huh.
Maybe your thinking along these lines,
"A proof is a proof. What kind of a proof? It's a proof. A proof is a proof, and when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven"
Bodah @ Tue Jun 06, 2006 5:19 pm
doh
Patrick_Ross @ Tue Jun 06, 2006 5:40 pm
Bodah, everyone, if I may be so bold as to interject, I think maybe we missed the big picture.
Tritium doesn't care about terrorism. Tritium doesn't care about these accused terrorists. Tritium doesn't care about human life.
The only reason Tritium jumped on this topic is to attack the Prime Minister. When there are so many valid reasons to criticize Harper, and someone chooses this one, it just shows us where his head is at.
Namely: no where. There is no "head" to speak of. No mind.
Tritium doesn't care about proving anything. This topic just allows him to desperately clutch at straws -- especially ones that don't exist.
ziggy @ Tue Jun 06, 2006 5:59 pm
Bodah Bodah:
Considering the actual person in that pic was beheaded, your attempt at humor is sick and twisted and not even remotely funny. As much as I dislike some politicians I would never want to see any physical harm come to them.
But Im sure you posted that so you could get a rise out of some people here, your real life that boring ?
Later dumbass
But Im sure you posted that so you could get a rise out of some people here, your real life that boring ?
Later dumbass
I recognized that pic from the video right away. Pretty sick if you have to use that guys pic to make some kind of point. I just got home and reread this and I think some time in the hoosegow for you is warrented.
What you think mods?
Tricks @ Tue Jun 06, 2006 6:05 pm
ziggy ziggy:
Bodah Bodah:
Considering the actual person in that pic was beheaded, your attempt at humor is sick and twisted and not even remotely funny. As much as I dislike some politicians I would never want to see any physical harm come to them.
But Im sure you posted that so you could get a rise out of some people here, your real life that boring ?
Later dumbass
But Im sure you posted that so you could get a rise out of some people here, your real life that boring ?
Later dumbass
I recognized that pic from the video right away. Pretty sick if you have to use that guys pic to make some kind of point. I just got home and reread this and I think some time in the hoosegow for you is warrented.
What you think mods?
Johnny_Utah @ Tue Jun 06, 2006 6:18 pm
Patrick_Ross Patrick_Ross:
Bodah, everyone, if I may be so bold as to interject, I think maybe we missed the big picture.
Tritium doesn't care about terrorism. Tritium doesn't care about these accused terrorists. Tritium doesn't care about human life.
The only reason Tritium jumped on this topic is to attack the Prime Minister. When there are so many valid reasons to criticize Harper, and someone chooses this one, it just shows us where his head is at.
Namely: no where. There is no "head" to speak of. No mind.
Tritium doesn't care about proving anything. This topic just allows him to desperately clutch at straws -- especially ones that don't exist.
Tritium doesn't care about terrorism. Tritium doesn't care about these accused terrorists. Tritium doesn't care about human life.
The only reason Tritium jumped on this topic is to attack the Prime Minister. When there are so many valid reasons to criticize Harper, and someone chooses this one, it just shows us where his head is at.
Namely: no where. There is no "head" to speak of. No mind.
Tritium doesn't care about proving anything. This topic just allows him to desperately clutch at straws -- especially ones that don't exist.
I wonder what he would have said had these Terrorists carried out their attacks and beheaded the Prime Minister as they planned. I don't also see how some people can think of this as some joke, this is serious, these Terrorists wanted to kill Canadians and the Prime Minister. It shouldn't make Canadians scared to live thier lives hell no. What it should do is serve as a wakeup call..
Johnny_Utah @ Tue Jun 06, 2006 6:22 pm
Bodah Bodah:
Considering the actual person in that pic was beheaded, your attempt at humor is sick and twisted and not even remotely funny. As much as I dislike some politicians I would never want to see any physical harm come to them.
But Im sure you posted that so you could get a rise out of some people here, your real life that boring ?
Later dumbass
But Im sure you posted that so you could get a rise out of some people here, your real life that boring ?
Later dumbass
Agreed!
Maybe he didn't see the beheading Video and hear the screams of Nick Berg being beheaded. If he did and still finds it funny to use that image, then I don't know what to say about him..
ziggy @ Tue Jun 06, 2006 7:07 pm
Johnny_Utah Johnny_Utah:
Bodah Bodah:
Considering the actual person in that pic was beheaded, your attempt at humor is sick and twisted and not even remotely funny. As much as I dislike some politicians I would never want to see any physical harm come to them.
But Im sure you posted that so you could get a rise out of some people here, your real life that boring ?
Later dumbass
But Im sure you posted that so you could get a rise out of some people here, your real life that boring ?
Later dumbass
Agreed!
Maybe he didn't see the beheading Video and hear the screams of Nick Berg being beheaded. If he did and still finds it funny to use that image, then I don't know what to say about him..
That was one e-mail vid I was sorry I ever watched.
Changed the way in which I see the world now.
ziggy @ Tue Jun 06, 2006 7:10 pm
ziggy ziggy:
Johnny_Utah Johnny_Utah:
Bodah Bodah:
Considering the actual person in that pic was beheaded, your attempt at humor is sick and twisted and not even remotely funny. As much as I dislike some politicians I would never want to see any physical harm come to them.
But Im sure you posted that so you could get a rise out of some people here, your real life that boring ?
Later dumbass
But Im sure you posted that so you could get a rise out of some people here, your real life that boring ?
Later dumbass
Agreed!
Maybe he didn't see the beheading Video and hear the screams of Nick Berg being beheaded. If he did and still finds it funny to use that image, then I don't know what to say about him..
That was one e-mail vid I was sorry I ever watched.
Changed the way in which I see the world now.Hate for Harper,like his weblink go's to,a hate Harper site.
He sure posts lots of fag pics though....what's up with that?
Numure @ Wed Jun 07, 2006 9:07 am
Bouhaha that pic is pretty funny. I really don't understand what the fuss is about.
danikyvor @ Wed Jun 07, 2006 9:33 am
You guys actually SAW the beheading video?? THAT is disturbing to me more than than some guy's face being cut and pasted onto a picture.
If you guys hadn't said it was a picture taken right before someone had been executed, I wouldn't have known, just taken it for a picture with some militants and someone in an orange suit. I don't follow that stuff, it's disturbing.
ridenrain @ Wed Jun 07, 2006 11:11 am
Ditto on dropping the picture. Political gab is one thing but murder is not a joke and the orignal victim deserves more respect than that.
For a real heavy dose of morons, check out this site. I guess this is what Trilliam wants to be when he grows up.
No wonder the Left is a big bag of nuts.
PluggyRug @ Wed Jun 07, 2006 1:44 pm
ridenrain ridenrain:
For a real heavy dose of morons, check out this site.
That idiot is so far left his right shoe don't fit anymore.