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You will lost money too in that, we have the St-Laurent lol. But maybe just a "right of passage" that ( boat ) will be ok. But that suck for the maritimes if they have to pay quebec when they want to go in ontario or what ever. They maybe want to separate too !
And why u dont have a stronger money?

   

The provincial (Quebec) Liberals complain about the "déséquilibre fiscal", true enough, but that has nothing to do with the fact that Quebec gets more from the federal government than it pays in taxes to the federal government.

On another note, the reason why I started this thread is because I haven't yet made up my mind about partitioning Quebec in the event of a "yes" vote, so I'm curious about how people feel about this...

   

We will dig a new ditch for the boats, then put a dam on the St-Laurent. Good luck getting out of James Bay in the winter. thats if the Indians let you use it.

   

[quote="Freaker] The provincial (Quebec) Liberals complain about the "déséquilibre fiscal", true enough, but that has nothing to do with the fact that Quebec gets more from the federal government than it pays in taxes to the federal government.
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Lol in quebec, we have not the same story, and when i said Liberals, i means federals liberals. When the get voted, in the "discours" ( the speaking ) of their gouvernementalysation ( i know that doesn't exist lol ) They said, because of the Bloc Québecois, that they recognise the déséquilibre fiscal in québec. So the fédérals and Provincial Liberal agree with the déséquilibre fiscal. So we lost 2billions last years, we pay taxe, but we can 2billions less then we give. lol on ur side its the Inverse. Why u think that we have more then we pay?

   

Lol how old are u? And why its should be trouble between canada and quebec? Why u hate us so much? lol in 1995 millions of canadians come in Quebec to said that u love us, i find that is not true ! Now i find that canadians hate more quebecers, then quebecers "hate" canadians. ( we dont really hate u, we just dont know u, u look like peacefull american with no-guns for many people here )

   

This raises an interesting question. If someone were born in Quebec, but lives in another province, where would their citizenship be if Quebec chose to separate?

   

You know why , Quebec is in Canada. You are no different then anybody, but some people think you are. You get treated with kidd gloves. Screw that, whats good for PEI is good for Quebec if you don't like it leave. Stop fucking around every couple years. it's getting old.

   

Because of this.

The part about the federal liberals agreeing about the "déséquilibre fiscal" is interesting though. I wasn't aware of that.

   

Citizenship would be Canadian because Quebec would have no standing for country or citizenship.

   

Good question, Ontario_Born. There are so many thorny questions that would need to be resolved if Quebec ever seceded.

   

The original question is totally futile.
As long as Quebec is part of Canada, its bouderies or territory can not be changed by the Federal government or any other province. Refer to the 1867 paper.
When Québec becomes sovereign, the Canadian constitution would cease to apply within Québec's territory. Québec's territorial integrity would then be guaranteed by well-established principles of international law.

According to these principles, Québec's borders as they were before it became sovereign would be the borders of the new state. The established rule in international law is uti possidetis juris, which basically means "You keep what you already have."

This rule has been rigorously applied in all recent cases in which states have attained sovereignty. For example, when the republics of the former Soviet Union became sovereign states, they kept their territory; indeed, respect for established borders was one of the international community's main criteria for recognizing the new states.

In short, neither the other provinces nor the federal government could use the opportunity to reduce or modify Québec's territory without its consent.

The above are the conclusions of a study completed by:

Thomas M. FRANCK, « Becker professor » director du Centre of international studies, Law faculty,New York University.

Rosalyn HIGGINS, Q.C., London School of Economics , member of the UN Human Right Comittee.;

Alain PELLET, professeur agrégé de droit public à l'Université de Paris X-Nanterre et à l'Institut d'études politiques de Paris (France), Member of The Internation Commission of International Rights, United Nation.

Malcom N. SHAW, professor,, Law faculty, Université de Leicester (UK)

Christian TOMUSCHAT, professor,, International Institute of Lawl, Bonn (Germany), Président of the the Commission of International Laws, United Nations.

   

Far be it from me to defend this city, but that storm occured just before the city's snow removal contract with a private firm was set to begin for the season. It was either get bent over a log and take the financial hit (with an election year looming) or call in the army and have them do their duty for free. Ridiculous or not, it was a cost-saving measure, nothing more, nothing less. The inferiority complex in this country is astounding sometimes. If it's not Toronto it's the Americans that are stupid and lazy. Good lord, grow up.

   

JackD: You have cited a pamphlet published by the government of Quebec in 1997. At the time the government was in the hands of the PQ (Jacques Brassard was the minister responsible) and they commissioned a group of legal scholars who were sympathetic to their cause to come to conclusions which would reinforce the PQ position. Although the legal concept of "uti possidetis juris" shouldn't be dismissed outright I think it is safe to conclude that this is not a particularly unbiased source! Other legal scholars have contested the arguments of this decidedly sovereignist-sympathetic group of lawyers.

In any event international law is nebulous at best and filled with ambiguities...

   

You ever hear of a shovel?
No inferiority here, I'm just tired of Toronto's "we're the centre of the universe' crap. With people like your self no wonder they can't help themselves. Also idiot it is not free when the military is called out to assist in "real" emergencies, someone foots the bill. Plus as a member of the army I really hate when idiots like yourself start with the I pay your salary crap. I too pay taxes so in a sense I am my own boss?
I see by your profile that you are a student, who by your own writing needs to learn alot more and to grow up a little bit before becoming a contributing member of society!

   

1. That bill has already been paid for, soldiers have a duty to citizens and not government in this country (thankfully).
2. It's not a matter of paying their salary, so I'd appreciate you not putting words in my mouth, thank you.
3. Digging out roads so buses and streetcars can get by in order to get 2 million people to work IS an emergency
4. Define 'contributing'
5. Cut the internet bravado.

   

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