Unions in ontario launch attack ads before election
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BurytheNDPforgood @ Tue Aug 21, 2007 7:07 am
Exactly.
Still waiting, Mustang....
ridenrain @ Tue Aug 21, 2007 7:27 am
sasquatch2 sasquatch2:
Mustang1
Well you just proved my point. That sort of grammar would have kept you in grade 6 indefinitely in my day. In these times proficiency in at least one language is advisable.....what's your's....it is certainly not English. Your rules.
Better to remain silent, and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and forever remove all doubt.
$1:
You don’t much about history, its methodology, inquiry models or historiography but somehow you’ve managed to ascertain student’s knowledge bases while harassing them at KFC? Please.
Well you just proved my point. That sort of grammar would have kept you in grade 6 indefinitely in my day. In these times proficiency in at least one language is advisable.....what's your's....it is certainly not English. Your rules.
Better to remain silent, and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and forever remove all doubt.
This is exactly the small BS thing that our stuffed shirted pall would use to hang an opponent with, and i see that in his following thread he claims another victory because of his mistake.
Well, whoop-de frick'n doo.
The large unions have become un-elected parties, bankrolled by miss-directed union dues, pushing a private and self-serving agenda.
Benoit @ Tue Aug 21, 2007 7:34 am
BurytheNDPforgood BurytheNDPforgood:
Nothing as long as it's done individually, not collectively ie. you decide to protest by walking off the job, but are not allowed to gang up on your employer simply because they are a taxpayer funded monopoly.
What is so special about people working in taxpayer funded unions?
What is so special about people working in taxpayer funded unions?
- The right to associate with our fellow humans is a fundamental one.
- Public employers can explain to their employees why it’s difficult for them to increase the income tax. Collective bargaining is about each side explaining their own difficulties. If you have difficulties paying your taxes explain why or shut up.
Mustang1 @ Tue Aug 21, 2007 7:44 am
BurytheNDPforgood BurytheNDPforgood:
I was simply commenting on a previous post and agreeing with points made in it.
It’s too bad that the last comment was patently false and neither you nor Yeti could substantiate it. Perhaps next time you could familiarize yourself with the particulars prior to posting lest you appear woefully unaware.
$1:
“I don't know a lot about Ontario politics as I don't live there.”
And here’s the problem. Then don’t comment on them! Why on earth would someone simply blindly agree (likely to oversimplified political partisanship) with a statement that was grounded in a explicit context regarding a specific incident and somehow assume they had a handle on it? Politics, despite what many think around here, isn’t merely reading the paper and indiscriminately throwing out terms like “socialism” or “right”. This illustrates that well
$1:
“I was saying that he got things right, assuming that he did do what was said in the post by Sasquatch.”
Then prove it. You say his comments about Harris breaking the Teachers Union is indeed factual, then quit cowering and let’s see the info, but don’t hang this entirely on Yeti. I’ll wait on your response.
$1:
“Do you want me to justify his post or Harris' actions? Perhaps you should ask him or Harris to do this?”
I want you substantiate your point about Harris beating the Teacher’s Unions. Get to it.
$1:
“In terms of my supporting the things that were posted.....Canada needs more Teachers Unions having their grubby, controlling little hands taken away from the helm of running the school systems across the country.”
Empty rhetoric.
$1:
“Now, would YOU please answer MY question?”
I’ll wait until you adequately answer my FIRST one, thanks. Besides, yours is an infantile baiting tactic – you don’t care about mixed market economies, political science, ideology or basic labor law, you just want to spout an agenda (one, that so far, lacks any objective analysis).
Mustang1 @ Tue Aug 21, 2007 7:44 am
BurytheNDPforgood BurytheNDPforgood:
Exactly.
Still waiting, Mustang....
Still waiting, Mustang....
me too....
Mustang1 @ Tue Aug 21, 2007 7:48 am
ridenrain ridenrain:
sasquatch2 sasquatch2:
Mustang1
Well you just proved my point. That sort of grammar would have kept you in grade 6 indefinitely in my day. In these times proficiency in at least one language is advisable.....what's your's....it is certainly not English. Your rules.
Better to remain silent, and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and forever remove all doubt.
$1:
You don’t much about history, its methodology, inquiry models or historiography but somehow you’ve managed to ascertain student’s knowledge bases while harassing them at KFC? Please.
Well you just proved my point. That sort of grammar would have kept you in grade 6 indefinitely in my day. In these times proficiency in at least one language is advisable.....what's your's....it is certainly not English. Your rules.
Better to remain silent, and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and forever remove all doubt.
This is exactly the small BS thing that our stuffed shirted pall would use to hang an opponent with, and i see that in his following thread he claims another victory because of his mistake.
Well, whoop-de frick'n doo.
The large unions have become un-elected parties, bankrolled by miss-directed union dues, pushing a private and self-serving agenda.
Hey...another Karma Bomb from our resident sanctimonious post police! thanks, but i burned him on the FACTS (but, hey, you're welcome to go back and criticize something tangible and RELEVANT that i posted. You won't, chicken crap, but i'll offer you the chance to hang yourself on this.
I'll debate you one on one on political science any day - come on, if you're so interested in politics, this should be fun. I'll await your response.
Hey...get back to work as we need yet another aped newspaper article with your shoddy shallow partisan analysis. Do your job, Great Britain, and leave the thinking to me.
BurytheNDPforgood @ Tue Aug 21, 2007 8:01 am
Mustang1 Mustang1:
BurytheNDPforgood BurytheNDPforgood:
I was simply commenting on a previous post and agreeing with points made in it.
It’s too bad that the last comment was patently false and neither you nor Yeti could substantiate it. Perhaps next time you could familiarize yourself with the particulars prior to posting lest you appear woefully unaware.
$1:
“I don't know a lot about Ontario politics as I don't live there.”
And here’s the problem. Then don’t comment on them! Why on earth would someone simply blindly agree (likely to oversimplified political partisanship) with a statement that was grounded in a explicit context regarding a specific incident and somehow assume they had a handle on it? Politics, despite what many think around here, isn’t merely reading the paper and indiscriminately throwing out terms like “socialism” or “right”. This illustrates that well
$1:
“I was saying that he got things right, assuming that he did do what was said in the post by Sasquatch.”
Then prove it. You say his comments about Harris breaking the Teachers Union is indeed factual, then quit cowering and let’s see the info, but don’t hang this entirely on Yeti. I’ll wait on your response.
$1:
“Do you want me to justify his post or Harris' actions? Perhaps you should ask him or Harris to do this?”
I want you substantiate your point about Harris beating the Teacher’s Unions. Get to it.
$1:
“In terms of my supporting the things that were posted.....Canada needs more Teachers Unions having their grubby, controlling little hands taken away from the helm of running the school systems across the country.”
Empty rhetoric.
$1:
“Now, would YOU please answer MY question?”
I’ll wait until you adequately answer my FIRST one, thanks. Besides, yours is an infantile baiting tactic – you don’t care about mixed market economies, political science, ideology or basic labor law, you just want to spout an agenda (one, that so far, lacks any objective analysis).
OMG! You can go on as long as you like about that previous post by Sasquatch, it's just fillibustering.
Are you the "Billy No Mates" of CKA, by the way? You seem like an angry man fighting with everyone.
Mustang1 @ Tue Aug 21, 2007 8:09 am
BurytheNDPforgood BurytheNDPforgood:
Mustang1 Mustang1:
BurytheNDPforgood BurytheNDPforgood:
I was simply commenting on a previous post and agreeing with points made in it.
It’s too bad that the last comment was patently false and neither you nor Yeti could substantiate it. Perhaps next time you could familiarize yourself with the particulars prior to posting lest you appear woefully unaware.
$1:
“I don't know a lot about Ontario politics as I don't live there.”
And here’s the problem. Then don’t comment on them! Why on earth would someone simply blindly agree (likely to oversimplified political partisanship) with a statement that was grounded in a explicit context regarding a specific incident and somehow assume they had a handle on it? Politics, despite what many think around here, isn’t merely reading the paper and indiscriminately throwing out terms like “socialism” or “right”. This illustrates that well
$1:
“I was saying that he got things right, assuming that he did do what was said in the post by Sasquatch.”
Then prove it. You say his comments about Harris breaking the Teachers Union is indeed factual, then quit cowering and let’s see the info, but don’t hang this entirely on Yeti. I’ll wait on your response.
$1:
“Do you want me to justify his post or Harris' actions? Perhaps you should ask him or Harris to do this?”
I want you substantiate your point about Harris beating the Teacher’s Unions. Get to it.
$1:
“In terms of my supporting the things that were posted.....Canada needs more Teachers Unions having their grubby, controlling little hands taken away from the helm of running the school systems across the country.”
Empty rhetoric.
$1:
“Now, would YOU please answer MY question?”
I’ll wait until you adequately answer my FIRST one, thanks. Besides, yours is an infantile baiting tactic – you don’t care about mixed market economies, political science, ideology or basic labor law, you just want to spout an agenda (one, that so far, lacks any objective analysis).
OMG! You can go on as long as you like about that previous post by Sasquatch, it's just fillibustering.
Are you the "Billy No Mates" of CKA, by the way? You seem like an angry man fighting with everyone.
Well...that's certainly a dodge. I guess you really don't know, do you? Maybe next time, you'll evaluate the content more thoroughly before posting on it?
Am i angry? Nah. I just have a low tolerance level for ignorance, self-righteousness, intellectual cowardice and hypocrisy. Just once, i'd like to see someone (ok, some here to have points) have a clue about "leftist" or "rightist" politics before launching into a personal agenda. Or have the balls to admit you don't know and can accept it.
Benoit @ Tue Aug 21, 2007 8:16 am
Mustang1 Mustang1:
Just once, i'd like to see someone (ok, some here to have points) have a clue about "leftist" or "rightist" politics before launching into a personal agenda.
Here a clue: left is about altruism and right is about egotism.
Mustang1 @ Tue Aug 21, 2007 8:24 am
Benoit Benoit:
Mustang1 Mustang1:
Just once, i'd like to see someone (ok, some here to have points) have a clue about "leftist" or "rightist" politics before launching into a personal agenda.
Here a clue: left is about altruism and right is about egotism.
Oh please....don't bait them. It only upsets them
BurytheNDPforgood @ Tue Aug 21, 2007 8:28 am
Mustang1 Mustang1:
BurytheNDPforgood BurytheNDPforgood:
Mustang1 Mustang1:
BurytheNDPforgood BurytheNDPforgood:
I was simply commenting on a previous post and agreeing with points made in it.
It’s too bad that the last comment was patently false and neither you nor Yeti could substantiate it. Perhaps next time you could familiarize yourself with the particulars prior to posting lest you appear woefully unaware.
$1:
“I don't know a lot about Ontario politics as I don't live there.”
And here’s the problem. Then don’t comment on them! Why on earth would someone simply blindly agree (likely to oversimplified political partisanship) with a statement that was grounded in a explicit context regarding a specific incident and somehow assume they had a handle on it? Politics, despite what many think around here, isn’t merely reading the paper and indiscriminately throwing out terms like “socialism” or “right”. This illustrates that well
$1:
“I was saying that he got things right, assuming that he did do what was said in the post by Sasquatch.”
Then prove it. You say his comments about Harris breaking the Teachers Union is indeed factual, then quit cowering and let’s see the info, but don’t hang this entirely on Yeti. I’ll wait on your response.
$1:
“Do you want me to justify his post or Harris' actions? Perhaps you should ask him or Harris to do this?”
I want you substantiate your point about Harris beating the Teacher’s Unions. Get to it.
$1:
“In terms of my supporting the things that were posted.....Canada needs more Teachers Unions having their grubby, controlling little hands taken away from the helm of running the school systems across the country.”
Empty rhetoric.
$1:
“Now, would YOU please answer MY question?”
I’ll wait until you adequately answer my FIRST one, thanks. Besides, yours is an infantile baiting tactic – you don’t care about mixed market economies, political science, ideology or basic labor law, you just want to spout an agenda (one, that so far, lacks any objective analysis).
OMG! You can go on as long as you like about that previous post by Sasquatch, it's just fillibustering.
Are you the "Billy No Mates" of CKA, by the way? You seem like an angry man fighting with everyone.
Well...that's certainly a dodge. I guess you really don't know, do you? Maybe next time, you'll evaluate the content more thoroughly before posting on it?
Am i angry? Nah. I just have a low tolerance level for ignorance, self-righteousness, intellectual cowardice and hypocrisy. Just once, i'd like to see someone (ok, some here to have points) have a clue about "leftist" or "rightist" politics before launching into a personal agenda. Or have the balls to admit you don't know and can accept it.
For God's sake, get over yourself. You lefties think you are so fucking smart don't you?
I'll get some info for you. Hopefully late this evening as I have to head off to work right now.
Do you have a job, or are you a teacher with a big fat pension and an extended summer vacation every year?
Mustang1 @ Tue Aug 21, 2007 8:40 am
BurytheNDPforgood BurytheNDPforgood:
Mustang1 Mustang1:
BurytheNDPforgood BurytheNDPforgood:
Mustang1 Mustang1:
BurytheNDPforgood BurytheNDPforgood:
I was simply commenting on a previous post and agreeing with points made in it.
It’s too bad that the last comment was patently false and neither you nor Yeti could substantiate it. Perhaps next time you could familiarize yourself with the particulars prior to posting lest you appear woefully unaware.
$1:
“I don't know a lot about Ontario politics as I don't live there.”
And here’s the problem. Then don’t comment on them! Why on earth would someone simply blindly agree (likely to oversimplified political partisanship) with a statement that was grounded in a explicit context regarding a specific incident and somehow assume they had a handle on it? Politics, despite what many think around here, isn’t merely reading the paper and indiscriminately throwing out terms like “socialism” or “right”. This illustrates that well
$1:
“I was saying that he got things right, assuming that he did do what was said in the post by Sasquatch.”
Then prove it. You say his comments about Harris breaking the Teachers Union is indeed factual, then quit cowering and let’s see the info, but don’t hang this entirely on Yeti. I’ll wait on your response.
$1:
“Do you want me to justify his post or Harris' actions? Perhaps you should ask him or Harris to do this?”
I want you substantiate your point about Harris beating the Teacher’s Unions. Get to it.
$1:
“In terms of my supporting the things that were posted.....Canada needs more Teachers Unions having their grubby, controlling little hands taken away from the helm of running the school systems across the country.”
Empty rhetoric.
$1:
“Now, would YOU please answer MY question?”
I’ll wait until you adequately answer my FIRST one, thanks. Besides, yours is an infantile baiting tactic – you don’t care about mixed market economies, political science, ideology or basic labor law, you just want to spout an agenda (one, that so far, lacks any objective analysis).
OMG! You can go on as long as you like about that previous post by Sasquatch, it's just fillibustering.
Are you the "Billy No Mates" of CKA, by the way? You seem like an angry man fighting with everyone.
Well...that's certainly a dodge. I guess you really don't know, do you? Maybe next time, you'll evaluate the content more thoroughly before posting on it?
Am i angry? Nah. I just have a low tolerance level for ignorance, self-righteousness, intellectual cowardice and hypocrisy. Just once, i'd like to see someone (ok, some here to have points) have a clue about "leftist" or "rightist" politics before launching into a personal agenda. Or have the balls to admit you don't know and can accept it.
For God's sake, get over yourself. You lefties think you are so fucking smart don't you?
I'll get some info for you. Hopefully late this evening as I have to head off to work right now.
Do you have a job, or are you a teacher with a big fat pension and an extended summer vacation every year?
Firstly, i'm not even a true "Lefty". That's mistake #1. Secondly, i do have a job, but taking apart your uniformed postings simply takes little time and doesn't interfere with it. Mistake #2. Thirdly, your remarks regarding teachers is insulting to that profession and it reeks of an envious little man, bent on pushing yet another agenda. Mistake # 3.
Lastly, bring whatever you want tonight and ape whatever you deem necessary, but if this is just you creating your lexicon, hedging your bets or pushing some bush-league political science site from the Net, than don't bother.
If you've got some commentary on "socialism" or "communism" or "conservatism" or ideological "liberalism" than, by all means, let's have it. Just make it objective.
Benoit @ Tue Aug 21, 2007 8:40 am
BurytheNDPforgood BurytheNDPforgood:
I'll get some info for you. Hopefully late this evening as I have to head off to work right now.
Do you have a job, or are you a teacher with a big fat pension and an extended summer vacation every year?
Do you have a job, or are you a teacher with a big fat pension and an extended summer vacation every year?
Work nowadays is only a stupid excuse for not doing what is right.
sasquatch2 @ Tue Aug 21, 2007 8:41 am
This Mustang1, is indeed a part of the phenomena of teachers unions hijacking the agenda.
They seek to line their own pockets and indoctrinate our children to their PC agenda.
Their chief weapon is pseudo intellectualism and just plain old browbeating. They just ooze their notion that they and they alone are the arbiters of all things.
Their practice goes against accepted practice. Recently here a "visible minority" kid assaulted another kid, allegedly over a racial remark. The victim of the assault had teeth broken.
The police were involved by the victims family. The Police attended and viewed video of the assault. The "visible minority" kid was charged with "assault causing bodily harm".
Parallel to the the school, dealt with this matter, both kids were suspended for 3 days. The notion was that there was a fight and involvement meant fighting. Despite a published "code of conduct" whereby a student charged with a criminal offence on school property would be suspended until the matter was resolved in the courts---the accused was allowed to return to school. The victim was further disciplined for the alleged racial remark, despite the assailants admission that from his position it was here-say. The Police had to direct that the assailant be kept away from the victim.
Subsequently, the assailant was arrested and held in custody for an unrelated, violent home-invasion robbery. He was found guilty of all charges and a deportation order was made for the completion of his incarceration.
This illustrates the schools (teachers), not the elected school boards, imposing a set of values contrary to our established law and order.
FYI to those out of province. Following the victory of the "Common Sense Revolution" the defeated LIBRANO candidates occupied the school-board and with bloated deficit budgets attempted to derail government policy. In many cases, the government took over the school boards and appointed administrators-----which the LIBRANOs and teachers unions cried foul.
Reading Mustang1's posts, this theme comes through clearly. A Taliban like self appointed elite.
Benoit @ Tue Aug 21, 2007 8:46 am
sasquatch2 sasquatch2:
Reading Mustang1's posts, this theme comes through clearly. A Taliban like self appointed elite.
When normal collective bargaining is forbidden, society is caught in Taliban like collective bargaining.
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