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If you ever want to see some funny neck injuries travel to Elat in Israel. A shitload of European and Israeli babes go topless on the beaches there. You should see how the local Arab men oogle, gawk and drool. Hell they were so bad that I wasn't obvious. Then there's mom in that alluring beach burka trying to shield her children from the sight of naked flesh, pushing and shoving at her dazed husband and teenage sons.

   

Seems to me M Hamilton, you may simply be uncomfortable with your sexuality and wish to condemn others, because they do what seems so alien to you. It is alright to feel that way, as it is probable you were conditioned to be that way during your childhood based on how your father interacted with your mother, and perhaps a religious institution that you joined or were put in that gave you a sense of belonging, an external validation for yourself. Perhaps one should learn to be happy with onself first, the only "constant" thing you'll ever know, then look outward.

   

Keep your kids in a bubble all you want. They do grow up and he will screw chicks, he will bang without a condom, he'll even try weed and get drunk a few times. He'll even get a porno magazine and look at it!

This is Canada and if you're just starting to notice how "liberal" Canada is, where have you been?

Seriously dude, grow up. If breats are your biggest concern for your kids, you're going to have some serious issues down the road!

   

I'd say that at 15 (soon 16) your brother has already seen quite a few boobies (at least pictures of them), so I guess he's already ruined!?!?

But seriously, as many have already said, it's only a RIGHT..which doesn't mean that women actually choose to walk around topless!

I'm happy for you that your biggest concern is the risk of bumping into a topless chick in the store or somewhere ..most others have a lot more "serious" problems to deal with. And sure, you are allowed to have your opinion, I just think it's totally overreacted to be as worried as you seem to be about something that is so unlikely to happen.

   

K fine you guys win. Liberalism good, decency bad...

I guess the fact that things that kids arn't allowed to see on the web can be seen by them in public.

I guess if i ever have a kid i'll find myself explaining to him the facts of life when hes 3...ah and my brother was able to hold off to 6 before he was no longer allowed to remain fully innocent, where have the times gone.

However i find three things stupid bout you guys
1) you associate any ideas of decency(which is still enforced in schools so someone must think its important) with prudishness and fundementalism. Tell me where i said women should go back to completely covering themselves. I just think before this we hade a pretty much ideal balance of decency and liberalism

2) Not all kids grow up to drink and do drugs. I know some who do and some who don't and let me tell you the ones that don't outnumber the ones who do so I thank whichever jackass who made that comment for implying every teenager is on drugs.

3)I'm a guy, jesus h. christ. I've questioned my sexuality at times (yes at one point i thought i was bi, AND no the bible did not make be squench any feelings). I like girls as much as the next guy. I just like a tiny bit of decency. Again woudl you like to explain to your kids why your neighbour is walking around half naked?

   

OK, that's just more information than most of us wanted or needed.

   

Aren't allowed to see? Go to Youtube.com. Type in boobs. Go to google video. Do the same. Go to google images. Do the same. Not hard to find. Even a 6 year old could figure that one out.
He isn't even going to know what fact is at the age of three.
Only three? Telling people to cover up because some epeople might be a little turned on is not decency. That's sheltering. Also, schools inforce the dumbest shit ever. Trust me, my school is horrible for that. We still do.

Serious? I know, out of about 100 people that I have hung out with in my grade....maybe 5 don't drink. maybe 25 haven't done somesort of drug.Sure. "She made a choice that she wanted to walk around half naked, it is her right little jimmy."

   

You beat me to the punch. What that like a punchline or something?

   

Dude, I'm sorry, but.....



You are soooo fucking retarded....

   

Would you like to explain to your kids why you thought that you'd like to have sex with men?

You talk about decency, keep that little fact away from your kids unless you want them in a lifetime of couch crying.

When your kid sees some women's breasts, the explanation of what they are is simply to explain to a child. Get over the fact that you've got a hard-on and try and be a father.

They're kids, you don't need to go on explaining sex at the age of 3.....

You've got a lot of issues you need to work out and a lot of growing to do as a parent.....

   

hamiltonguy's 15 for feck's sake. Hopefully by the time he/she/it turns 16, there'll be some growing up, some awareness that the world is not black and white. Personally, I'm not holding my breath but people can have epiphanies.

I still say hamiltonguy's a 15 yo girl despite claiming otherwise. Certainly the didactic online presence has a strong feminine streak

   

Personally, i think hamiltonguy's plan is working. i think he really LOVES tits and is as happy as can be that he has us all talking about tits. i also think his real problem with tits is not that he may be able to see them in public.... its not being able to TOUCH them in public (or any place).

my suggestion to hamiltonguy is not to worry, most girls know his type and will cover up as soon as they see him coming.

(*)(*)

   

Well if you read a lot of the posts here you'll realize a lot of Canadians go topless! Topless from the neck up! Brain dead and high on dope I FIGURE!

   

He'll probably remember sucking on boobies though



I associate enforcing standards of decency with the puritans. Everyone knows that being selectively revealing is more of a turn on then just showing it all.



Because some are losers who have been fully indoctrinated by health ed.



So you're what, 16? Wait till college.



We're counting alcohol as a drug right?

Maybe 90% of the people I know do some form of a drug. Some more then others, some do them quite responsibly.



I wouldn't need to. Suppose everything you're saying is correct, and we have people walking around nude constantly. Then my kids would be exposed to it from birth and wouldn't find it unusual.

   

A distinction needs to made between nudity and pornography.

Example:

- kitty's avatar (see above) would be considered by most to be pornography, even though the "subject" is completely covered with clothes.

- pictures of a bunch of naked African people in National Geographic, wearing naught but some feathers or maybe a animal bone necklace, would never be considered pornography by any rational person.

   

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