Call for First Nations-focused secondary school in Vancouver
Lemmy @ Sun Jan 30, 2011 7:46 pm
It'd likely be the Feds, not the Sask gov't, Thanos. Native education is federal.
Thanos @ Sun Jan 30, 2011 7:48 pm
I stand corrected then. I thought as a college it would have been a provincial responsibility. No matter who had the oversight though it was still a rotten clusterfuck of corruption.
Lemmy @ Sun Jan 30, 2011 7:52 pm
Hmmm, now I'm not so sure. If it's post-secondary, it may be provincial. Native education is spelled out as a federal matter right in our consititution, but now I'm unsure. Do you remember the name of the institution? Maybe I could look into it some.
Thanos @ Sun Jan 30, 2011 10:35 pm
Not really. Western Standard ran a story on it (at least five years ago or more) because the regular media outside of Saskabush didn't want to touch it. Even with the built-in bias of a magazine run by *Ezra Levant set aside, the whole situation sounded completely hideous.
*Ezra's sort of turned into a Canadian Limbaugh. He was hellishly entertaining and informative just a few years ago (like Limbaugh was back in the 1990's) but he took a major turn for the worse and now he's just another troll.
martin14 @ Mon Jan 31, 2011 12:54 am
Curtman Curtman:
If someone wants to go to a school with a sweat lodge, and they are more successful because of it, I say go for it.
Sweat lodge is no problem.
Consumer Math, ya I need a course to compare prices at Wallmart and Zellers, ok.
Pre-Calculus Mathematics..... ya that's fine, except for the small
problem that my highschool math courses weren't 'pre' anything BS.
It was just Calculus.
ShepherdsDog @ Mon Jan 31, 2011 3:25 am
They'd learn a very simple phonetic alphabet. Eh! Yoo Owe Mee
Curtman @ Mon Jan 31, 2011 6:27 am
martin14 martin14:
Curtman Curtman:
If someone wants to go to a school with a sweat lodge, and they are more successful because of it, I say go for it.
Sweat lodge is no problem.
Consumer Math, ya I need a course to compare prices at Wallmart and Zellers, ok.
Pre-Calculus Mathematics..... ya that's fine, except for the small
problem that my highschool math courses weren't 'pre' anything BS.
It was just Calculus.
Well you can blame the province for that I guess. They make the curriculum, which was the point.
Grade 12 Pre-Calculus Mathematics (40S) Outcomes by Unit
Curtman @ Mon Jan 31, 2011 7:16 am
sandorski sandorski:
I wish we had Spatial Ed when I went to school...
I think they called that "Dodgeball".
QBC @ Mon Jan 31, 2011 7:26 am
You know, if someone wants special schooling like this, they are more than welcome to do that. They can start up their own private school, funded by them, and teach their cultural history and the like to their hearts content. If they want the schooling of their children to be paid for by the government, then they can go to the same public school as everyone else and have the same curriculum as everyone else.
Curtman @ Mon Jan 31, 2011 7:44 am
QBC QBC:
You know, if someone wants special schooling like this, they are more than welcome to do that. They can start up their own private school, funded by them, and teach their cultural history and the like to their hearts content. If they want the schooling of their children to be paid for by the government, then they can go to the same public school as everyone else and have the same curriculum as everyone else.
You're against French immersion school too? I'll agree with the funding idea though. Those religious schools have been sucking up tax dollars like judgement day was coming.
QBC @ Mon Jan 31, 2011 7:49 am
Curtman Curtman:
QBC QBC:
You know, if someone wants special schooling like this, they are more than welcome to do that. They can start up their own private school, funded by them, and teach their cultural history and the like to their hearts content. If they want the schooling of their children to be paid for by the government, then they can go to the same public school as everyone else and have the same curriculum as everyone else.
You're against French immersion school too? I'll agree with the funding idea though. Those religious schools have been sucking up tax dollars like judgement day was coming.
I'm not a fan of french immersion, I think it's unnecessary. But in the same way, if parents want to foot the bill, they can do that, I'm against it being publicly funded.
Curtman @ Mon Jan 31, 2011 7:51 am
QBC QBC:
Curtman Curtman:
QBC QBC:
You know, if someone wants special schooling like this, they are more than welcome to do that. They can start up their own private school, funded by them, and teach their cultural history and the like to their hearts content. If they want the schooling of their children to be paid for by the government, then they can go to the same public school as everyone else and have the same curriculum as everyone else.
You're against French immersion school too? I'll agree with the funding idea though. Those religious schools have been sucking up tax dollars like judgement day was coming.
I'm not a fan of french immersion, I think it's unnecessary. But in the same way, if parents want to foot the bill, they can do that, I'm against it being publicly funded.
But if its more successful at teaching students, (more of them graduate, and the test scores are higher) why would you care? Sour grapes?
QBC @ Mon Jan 31, 2011 7:55 am
Curtman Curtman:
QBC QBC:
Curtman Curtman:
You're against French immersion school too? I'll agree with the funding idea though. Those religious schools have been sucking up tax dollars like judgement day was coming.
I'm not a fan of french immersion, I think it's unnecessary. But in the same way, if parents want to foot the bill, they can do that, I'm against it being publicly funded.
But if its more successful at teaching students, (more of them graduate, and the test scores are higher) why would you care? Sour grapes?
Hu, can't talk about the subject? You have to somehow make it personal? What an idiotic question......
Curtman @ Mon Jan 31, 2011 8:02 am
QBC QBC:
Hu, can't talk about the subject? You have to somehow make it personal? What an idiotic question......
I'm just asking. Why care if the students are learning, and it doesn't cost taxpayers any more to teach them about their culture?
Just for context....
A degree of faith
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Manitobans fund private religious schools and universities, but teachers who don't adhere to doctrine may not have a prayer
Tories set level
The former Conservative government set the level of private post-secondary operating grants in the late 1990s.
Under an agreement with that Filmon government, CMU receives the same percentage increase in annual operating grants as do other colleges and universities such as University of Manitoba and University of Winnipeg.
In 2007-2008, the most recent year for which a detailed government financial report is available, provincial taxpayers paid $46.7 million to the operation of private kindergarten to Grade 12 schools -- or just slightly less than half of the costs of operating those schools.
The private schools receive half the per-student amount of money that the public school division in which they are located spends per student, or about $4,500 to $5,000 per private-school child.
That last Tory government had planned to increase private school operating grants each year as a percentage of public school spending, but the Doer government froze the level of grants at 50 per cent when the NDP took office in 1999.
Some high-enrolment private schools receive millions of public dollars, but because they have high tuition fees and other sources of money, the percentage of public support is relatively low. St. John's-Ravenscourt draws 19.2 per cent of its operating budget from the province, and Balmoral Hall School 16.4 per cent.
Some less-affluent private schools with smaller or no tuition get the majority of their funding from the provincial government. In a few cases, the province basically covers all the bills: Alhijra Islamic School got 96.2 per cent of its budget from provincial taxpayers, Green Acres 90 per cent, Holy Cross 94.1 per cent, Pine Creek 96.5 per cent.
Some large private schools provide at least as many resources as the public schools. Some private schools pay teachers a stipend rather than a salary and lack the resource teachers and some other features of the public system.
Public schools spent $9,401 per student in 2007-2008, the private schools $8,419.
But that spending varied far more widely than in public schools.
Balmoral Hall spent $20,366 per student, The Laureate (formerly Laureate Academy) spent $19,486 per child, and SJR $18,594.
Odanah School spent $3,999 per student -- it is a Hutterite private school near Minnedosa. Another private Hutterite school, Wingham School in Elm Creek, spent $4,049 per child, for 20 students in kindergarten to Grade 12. Pine Creek in Austin, a K-12 school with 12 students, spent $4,181.
Among large Winnipeg faith-based private schools, Calvin Christian spent $6,617, Springs Christian Academy $7,804, and Linden Christian $6,850.
Tories set level
The former Conservative government set the level of private post-secondary operating grants in the late 1990s.
Under an agreement with that Filmon government, CMU receives the same percentage increase in annual operating grants as do other colleges and universities such as University of Manitoba and University of Winnipeg.
In 2007-2008, the most recent year for which a detailed government financial report is available, provincial taxpayers paid $46.7 million to the operation of private kindergarten to Grade 12 schools -- or just slightly less than half of the costs of operating those schools.
The private schools receive half the per-student amount of money that the public school division in which they are located spends per student, or about $4,500 to $5,000 per private-school child.
That last Tory government had planned to increase private school operating grants each year as a percentage of public school spending, but the Doer government froze the level of grants at 50 per cent when the NDP took office in 1999.
Some high-enrolment private schools receive millions of public dollars, but because they have high tuition fees and other sources of money, the percentage of public support is relatively low. St. John's-Ravenscourt draws 19.2 per cent of its operating budget from the province, and Balmoral Hall School 16.4 per cent.
Some less-affluent private schools with smaller or no tuition get the majority of their funding from the provincial government. In a few cases, the province basically covers all the bills: Alhijra Islamic School got 96.2 per cent of its budget from provincial taxpayers, Green Acres 90 per cent, Holy Cross 94.1 per cent, Pine Creek 96.5 per cent.
Some large private schools provide at least as many resources as the public schools. Some private schools pay teachers a stipend rather than a salary and lack the resource teachers and some other features of the public system.
Public schools spent $9,401 per student in 2007-2008, the private schools $8,419.
But that spending varied far more widely than in public schools.
Balmoral Hall spent $20,366 per student, The Laureate (formerly Laureate Academy) spent $19,486 per child, and SJR $18,594.
Odanah School spent $3,999 per student -- it is a Hutterite private school near Minnedosa. Another private Hutterite school, Wingham School in Elm Creek, spent $4,049 per child, for 20 students in kindergarten to Grade 12. Pine Creek in Austin, a K-12 school with 12 students, spent $4,181.
Among large Winnipeg faith-based private schools, Calvin Christian spent $6,617, Springs Christian Academy $7,804, and Linden Christian $6,850.
Yogi @ Mon Jan 31, 2011 8:08 am
The only ones who should get special attention are those who ride the 'special' bus.
How well do you think it would go over if a school ( paid for with tax $$$) were to advertise that Our focus is on CAUCASION KIDS!
Just how, exactly, is taking part in a sweat lodge, or learning how to do a rain dance, or making pemican ( thanks Martin) going to prepare anyone to do better in todays society?