Evolution classes optional under proposed Alberta law
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Lemmy @ Fri May 01, 2009 8:49 am
Zipperfish Zipperfish:
Proculation Proculation:
Religion is a family thing. Not the state business.
I agree. That's why freedom of religion should be removed from the Charter.
We also have protection of "thought, belief and opinion", so protecting religion, specifically, is redundant.
RUEZ @ Fri May 01, 2009 8:50 am
fifeboy fifeboy:
RUEZ RUEZ:
You know what's funny. We expect people in Canada to have the right to take their kids from class when they sing Oh Canada because of a few words. Yet we don't expect religious people to have those same rights.
Who is we?Who are you?
Zipperfish @ Fri May 01, 2009 8:53 am
RUEZ RUEZ:
Bacardi4206 Bacardi4206:
What is with this bullshit? You don't see politicians making laws on what can be taught at religious school. I am sure there are quite a few things parents don't want there kids to hear there as well but hey whos going to complain to the priest when there religious.
Did you even read the article? They aren't telling people what can be taught at schools.
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A controversial Alberta bill will enshrine into law the rights of parents to pull their children out of classes discussing the topics of evolution and homosexuality.
They are allowing parents to decide what they want their children to hear at school.Nice new avatar, Ruez. Love it!
I would hope, as a Scientist myself, that I could miss any singing of teh national anthem, since that has the word "god" in it. Also, since the word "fag" is heard in the average classroom about eighty times a day, I guess you wouldn't have to send your kid to school at all.
RUEZ @ Fri May 01, 2009 8:58 am
Zipperfish Zipperfish:
RUEZ RUEZ:
Bacardi4206 Bacardi4206:
What is with this bullshit? You don't see politicians making laws on what can be taught at religious school. I am sure there are quite a few things parents don't want there kids to hear there as well but hey whos going to complain to the priest when there religious.
Did you even read the article? They aren't telling people what can be taught at schools.
$1:
A controversial Alberta bill will enshrine into law the rights of parents to pull their children out of classes discussing the topics of evolution and homosexuality.
They are allowing parents to decide what they want their children to hear at school.Nice new avatar, Ruez. Love it!
I would hope, as a Scientist myself, that I could miss any singing of teh national anthem, since that has the word "god" in it. Also, since the word "fag" is heard in the average classroom about eighty times a day, I guess you wouldn't have to send your kid to school at all.
I personally have no problem with anything schools teach children. I also don't have a problem with parents being allowed to decide what's right for their kid. I think someone already said it, if they want to keep their kids ignorant that's their business.
fifeboy @ Fri May 01, 2009 9:03 am
stemmer stemmer:
fifeboy fifeboy:
mtbr mtbr:
Well I'm disappointed . 
It's says nothing about the option to pull your kids from the discussion of Global Warming 
Discussions of global warming are science discussions. There may be disagreement on it, but it is still science. It's says nothing about the option to pull your kids from the discussion of Global Warming
Science...??? Hardly... It's science being massaged for a very scary political agenda....
fifeboy @ Fri May 01, 2009 9:05 am
RUEZ RUEZ:
fifeboy fifeboy:
RUEZ RUEZ:
You know what's funny. We expect people in Canada to have the right to take their kids from class when they sing Oh Canada because of a few words. Yet we don't expect religious people to have those same rights.
Who is we?Who are you?
Zipperfish @ Fri May 01, 2009 9:06 am
RUEZ RUEZ:
I personally have no problem with anything schools teach children. I also don't have a problem with parents being allowed to decide what's right for their kid. I think someone already said it, if they want to keep their kids ignorant that's their business.
I agree to an extent. But eventually whether or not you want a socialized education system. Even the US, the most capitalist country in the world, still has a socialized education system. I'm not much for socialism myself, but in the case of education, there's strong arguments for it, I believe. Education--whether by home-schools, private or public schools--is mandatory in all provinces. Public schools should accomodate to a adegree, but if the parents son't want their kids to learn about evolution, they should home-school them or put them in private schools.
RUEZ @ Fri May 01, 2009 9:10 am
fifeboy fifeboy:
The guy who asked the question, "who is we?"
I guess you haven't watched Tropic Thunder?
fifeboy @ Fri May 01, 2009 9:30 am
RUEZ RUEZ:
fifeboy fifeboy:
The guy who asked the question, "who is we?"
I guess you haven't watched Tropic Thunder?Having no idea what you are talking about, I would guess you are right.
Proculation @ Fri May 01, 2009 9:36 am
Zipperfish Zipperfish:
RUEZ RUEZ:
I personally have no problem with anything schools teach children. I also don't have a problem with parents being allowed to decide what's right for their kid. I think someone already said it, if they want to keep their kids ignorant that's their business.
I agree to an extent. But eventually whether or not you want a socialized education system. Even the US, the most capitalist country in the world, still has a socialized education system. I'm not much for socialism myself, but in the case of education, there's strong arguments for it, I believe. Education--whether by home-schools, private or public schools--is mandatory in all provinces. Public schools should accomodate to a adegree, but if the parents son't want their kids to learn about evolution, they should home-school them or put them in private schools.
Humm the US is not the most capitalist country. You would like to look data for Hong Kong or Singapour.
Lemmy @ Fri May 01, 2009 9:45 am
RUEZ RUEZ:
I personally have no problem with anything schools teach children. I also don't have a problem with parents being allowed to decide what's right for their kid. I think someone already said it, if they want to keep their kids ignorant that's their business.
No way. I totally disagree. Just because a kid has morons or religious nut-cases for parents, that shouldn't be a reason that an education be withheld from him/her. Furthermore, public education benefits ALL Canadians. Even if I didn't have kids, I'd have to pay taxes for education because an educated citizenry is good for us all. It's called Positive External Benefit in economics.
fifeboy @ Fri May 01, 2009 9:50 am
Proculation Proculation:
Humm the US is not the most capitalist country. You would like to look data for Hong Kong or Singapour.
Here, you will need this to pick those nits:
Lemmy @ Fri May 01, 2009 9:52 am
Proculation Proculation:
Humm the US is not the most capitalist country. You would like to look data for Hong Kong or Singapour.
Hmmm...Singapore is a very centrally planned economy. It's a far cry from a capitalist state.
RUEZ @ Fri May 01, 2009 10:00 am
Lemmy Lemmy:
RUEZ RUEZ:
I personally have no problem with anything schools teach children. I also don't have a problem with parents being allowed to decide what's right for their kid. I think someone already said it, if they want to keep their kids ignorant that's their business.
No way. I totally disagree. Just because a kid has morons or religious nut-cases for parents, that shouldn't be a reason that an education be withheld from him/her. Furthermore, public education benefits ALL Canadians. Even if I didn't have kids, I'd have to pay taxes for education because an educated citizenry is good for us all. It's called Positive External Benefit in economics.
You may disagree but in Canada people have the right to practice their religion. After 16 children also have the right to get no education at all.
Proculation @ Fri May 01, 2009 10:04 am
Lemmy Lemmy:
Proculation Proculation:
Humm the US is not the most capitalist country. You would like to look data for Hong Kong or Singapour.
Hmmm...Singapore is a very centrally planned economy. It's a far cry from a capitalist state.
Sure. And North Korea is not a socialist state. Maybe it's the economy classes that are not compulsory
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