Canada Kicks Ass
Evolution classes optional under proposed Alberta law

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RUEZ @ Thu Apr 30, 2009 9:06 pm

Kerozine Kerozine:
Proculation Proculation:
Kerozine Kerozine:
All they are doing is denying their children a potential career in health sciences. :roll:


I don't understand ? There have been health sciences before the theory of evolution.

What year is it?

The year of living dangerously.

   



Proculation @ Thu Apr 30, 2009 9:07 pm

There is a difference between science and beliefs.

   



RUEZ @ Thu Apr 30, 2009 9:07 pm

Lemmy Lemmy:
It's not to be free from studying other ones. :roll:

Why not?

   



Lemmy @ Thu Apr 30, 2009 9:12 pm

RUEZ RUEZ:
Lemmy Lemmy:
It's not to be free from studying other ones. :roll:

Why not?


Because learning and practising are different things. We not forcing these kids to follow Islam, just learn about what it its. Should I be able to tell the School Board to stick their English curiculum if I don't believe Shakespeare really wrote Hamlet, on Charter grounds?

   



Kerozine @ Thu Apr 30, 2009 9:14 pm

Proculation Proculation:
There is a difference between science and beliefs.

Yes. Major differences. Point being?

   



Proculation @ Thu Apr 30, 2009 9:15 pm

Kerozine Kerozine:
Proculation Proculation:
There is a difference between science and beliefs.

Yes. Major differences. Point being?


Lemmy compared religion and science (breathing oxygen).

   



Lemmy @ Thu Apr 30, 2009 9:19 pm

Proculation Proculation:
Lemmy compared religion and science (breathing oxygen).


Not really. I didn't compare them. I compared LEARNING about them.

   



Proculation @ Thu Apr 30, 2009 9:21 pm

Religion is a family thing. Not the state business.

   



Lemmy @ Thu Apr 30, 2009 9:25 pm

Proculation Proculation:
Religion is a family thing. Not the state business.


So, then we shouldn't teach sex-education in the schools? That's a family thing. There are plenty of things that are "family things" that the curriculum includes.

   



Proculation @ Thu Apr 30, 2009 9:29 pm

Lemmy Lemmy:
Proculation Proculation:
Religion is a family thing. Not the state business.


So, then we shouldn't teach sex-education in the schools? That's a family thing. There are plenty of things that are "family things" that the curriculum includes.


Humm I don't know where you live but here (Quebec) sex-ed isn't part of the program since a long time.

   



Lemmy @ Thu Apr 30, 2009 9:34 pm

Proculation Proculation:
Humm I don't know where you live but here (Quebec) sex-ed isn't part of the program since a long time.


You're kidding me? They don't teach human reproduction in Science or Phys-ed classes in highschools? That CAN'T be true. In 2009? In any case, sex-ed classes don't tell kids to have sex or not have sex or to have straight sex, or not have sex with midgets dressed as Little Bo Peep. THOSE are personal choices. But the facts, the birds and the bees, are fair game for public education and should be encouraged as curricular. Same with religion. We shouldn't indoctrinate kids to any belief, but should present as much information as we can. That's not a Charter violation in ANY way.

   



RUEZ @ Thu Apr 30, 2009 9:35 pm

Lemmy Lemmy:
Should I be able to tell the School Board to stick their English curiculum if I don't believe Shakespeare really wrote Hamlet, on Charter grounds?

I don't think anyone has an argument that English classes interfere with their religious freedoms.

   



RUEZ @ Thu Apr 30, 2009 9:38 pm

You know what's funny. We expect people in Canada to have the right to take their kids from class when they sing Oh Canada because of a few words. Yet we don't expect religious people to have those same rights.

   



Lemmy @ Thu Apr 30, 2009 9:38 pm

RUEZ RUEZ:
I don't think anyone has an argument that English classes interfere with their religious freedoms.


And my point is that learning about other religions doesn't interfere with that Charter right either.

   



Proculation @ Thu Apr 30, 2009 9:39 pm

Lemmy Lemmy:
Proculation Proculation:
Humm I don't know where you live but here (Quebec) sex-ed isn't part of the program since a long time.


You're kidding me? They don't teach human reproduction in Science or Phys-ed classes in highschools? That CAN'T be true. In 2009? In any case, sex-ed classes don't tell kids to have sex or not have sex or to have straight sex, or not have sex with midgets dressed as Little Bo Peep. THOSE are personal choices. But the facts, the birds and the bees, are fair game for public education and should be encouraged as curricular. Same with religion. We shouldn't indoctrinate kids to any belief, but should present as much information as we can. That's not a Charter violation in ANY way.


Well of course they teach human reproduction in biology and other classes. But the specific sex-ed classes (how to put a condom, STDs, etc) have been retired since at least 10 years.

   



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