The city of Toronto turns right.
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Unsound @ Tue Oct 26, 2010 2:55 pm
hurley_108 hurley_108:
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
bootlegga bootlegga:
The problem is that in many cases, the city is surrounded by suburbs, and there is no place left for them to grow. Take a look at Edmonton sometime on Google maps. St. Albert, CFB Edmonton & Ft. Saskatchewan block growth in the north, Sherwood Park does the same in the east, Beaumont, Nisku, & Leduc do it in the south, and the Enoch Reservation and Spruce Grove/Stony Plain do it on the west.
Short of annexing one or more of those cities (which the province has adamantly refused over the past two decades), there is nowhere to grow outwards to provide land for residents. Housing demand is high, but Edmonton is rapidly running out of land to build them.
Short of annexing one or more of those cities (which the province has adamantly refused over the past two decades), there is nowhere to grow outwards to provide land for residents. Housing demand is high, but Edmonton is rapidly running out of land to build them.
That's a big 'so what?'. Edmonton does not have a God-given right to annex someone else's city without the approval of the people living in that city. Manage what you've got and deal with it.
I'm from one of those suburbs - St. Albert, so I speak with some knowledge when I say that St. Albertans in general are a stuck up bunch of whiny selfish prats. They mostly mooch jobs and entertainment off of Edmonton but retire to their own cosy little community for sleep. They rely on the RCMP for policing because they're not big enough for their own police force. They recently successfully lobbied the province to realign a road that had been in the works for decades so that it would be a litle farther from their houses, but in the process had to demolish a 50 year old seminary and force it to move - guess where - further into Edmonton. And let's not forget the letter to the local rag recently that makde national headlines raging against the effect a habitat for humanity project would have on the priveleged, elite lifestyle St. Albertans are entitled to. Because they're better.
Edmonton can annex the everlasting FUCK out of St. Albert for all I care.
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Zipperfish @ Tue Oct 26, 2010 3:01 pm
Mustang1 Mustang1:
Rob Ford is a nasty, brutish, loud-mouthed, uneducated, slob who rode the wave of angry populism to the mayor's seat. Sorry, Toronto, but enjoy the ride.
\Like that Mel Brooks guy you had in there during the SARS scare. What was his great line (though I'm sure he many other great ones) about teh WEolrd Health Organization: "They don't know what they're talking about. I don't know who this group is. I've never heard of them before."
Mustang1 @ Tue Oct 26, 2010 3:01 pm
CDN_PATRIOT CDN_PATRIOT:
It's about time. The leftist socialist pigs have had too much time to ruin our fair city. Toronto will rise high once again thanks to Mr. Ford.
"No left turns"
-J.
"No left turns"
-J.
Hey, there's another dropou...er...Ford supporter! And like a true student of the Enlightenment he offers up an insult that's redundant! Welcome to the new Toronto!
Lemmy @ Tue Oct 26, 2010 3:14 pm
Well, Toronto, this is what you've got yourself into: 
enjoy.
bootlegga @ Tue Oct 26, 2010 3:24 pm
hurley_108 hurley_108:
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
bootlegga bootlegga:
The problem is that in many cases, the city is surrounded by suburbs, and there is no place left for them to grow. Take a look at Edmonton sometime on Google maps. St. Albert, CFB Edmonton & Ft. Saskatchewan block growth in the north, Sherwood Park does the same in the east, Beaumont, Nisku, & Leduc do it in the south, and the Enoch Reservation and Spruce Grove/Stony Plain do it on the west.
Short of annexing one or more of those cities (which the province has adamantly refused over the past two decades), there is nowhere to grow outwards to provide land for residents. Housing demand is high, but Edmonton is rapidly running out of land to build them.
Short of annexing one or more of those cities (which the province has adamantly refused over the past two decades), there is nowhere to grow outwards to provide land for residents. Housing demand is high, but Edmonton is rapidly running out of land to build them.
That's a big 'so what?'. Edmonton does not have a God-given right to annex someone else's city without the approval of the people living in that city. Manage what you've got and deal with it.
I'm from one of those suburbs - St. Albert, so I speak with some knowledge when I say that St. Albertans in general are a stuck up bunch of whiny selfish prats. They mostly mooch jobs and entertainment off of Edmonton but retire to their own cosy little community for sleep. They rely on the RCMP for policing because they're not big enough for their own police force. They recently successfully lobbied the province to realign a road that had been in the works for decades so that it would be a litle farther from their houses, but in the process had to demolish a 50 year old seminary and force it to move - guess where - further into Edmonton. And let's not forget the letter to the local rag recently that makde national headlines raging against the effect a habitat for humanity project would have on the priveleged, elite lifestyle St. Albertans are entitled to. Because they're better.
Edmonton can annex the everlasting FUCK out of St. Albert for all I care.
Zipperfish @ Tue Oct 26, 2010 3:27 pm
This guy and Gregor Robertson (mayor of vancouver) will probably spontaneously annihilate each other if they ever meet. Seriously though, I'm a lefty and all that, but even I'm fed up with nannyism and taxing me up the ass. I somewhat sympathize wiht Toronto's reaction.
EyeBrock @ Tue Oct 26, 2010 3:36 pm
Now if I can just get some weed killer........'Kin dandelions.....'Kin Dalton's fault....whine...whine
EyeBrock @ Tue Oct 26, 2010 3:37 pm
Mustang1 Mustang1:
CDN_PATRIOT CDN_PATRIOT:
It's about time. The leftist socialist pigs have had too much time to ruin our fair city. Toronto will rise high once again thanks to Mr. Ford.
"No left turns"
-J.
"No left turns"
-J.
Hey, there's another dropou...er...Ford supporter! And like a true student of the Enlightenment he offers up an insult that's redundant! Welcome to the new Toronto!
He did say 'Mr'. A polite chap.
Mustang1 @ Tue Oct 26, 2010 3:40 pm
EyeBrock EyeBrock:
Mustang1 Mustang1:
CDN_PATRIOT CDN_PATRIOT:
It's about time. The leftist socialist pigs have had too much time to ruin our fair city. Toronto will rise high once again thanks to Mr. Ford.
"No left turns"
-J.
"No left turns"
-J.
Hey, there's another dropou...er...Ford supporter! And like a true student of the Enlightenment he offers up an insult that's redundant! Welcome to the new Toronto!
He did say 'Mr'. A polite chap.
Nah...he's just trying to put lipstick on a pig. And in this case it's both figurative as well as literal.
BartSimpson @ Tue Oct 26, 2010 3:50 pm
hurley_108 hurley_108:
I'm from one of those suburbs - St. Albert, so I speak with some knowledge when I say that St. Albertans in general are a stuck up bunch of whiny selfish prats.
Doing the math...
Hurley is a St. Albertan.
St. Albertans are a stuck up bunch of whiny selfish prats.
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Gunnair @ Tue Oct 26, 2010 4:07 pm
EyeBrock EyeBrock:
I think it's funny that all the lefties in TO are crying into their lattes.
The tide is turning!
The tide is turning!
http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2010/10/26/kelly-mcparland-latte-futures-plummet-as-toronto-contemplates-ford-mayoralty/
EyeBrock @ Tue Oct 26, 2010 4:08 pm
Now now Gunny! The bad lefties deserved it!
Gunnair @ Tue Oct 26, 2010 4:14 pm
martin14 martin14:
EyeBrock EyeBrock:
Yep, but we either the get the condescending " I know best " guys or loonies like Hudak and Ford.
The time is ripe for a big change in Canada. Maybe andy and me can start our own party?
We could have Lemmy in Finance, we'll get you and Shep in Policy, Gunny and Bart in Defence, DD in Immigration, Brenda on Wimmins Issues, ASL for the gun thing, Hurley and Boots in the Dept of Common Sense and we have plenty of people for other portfolios.
I think we would be good to go...!
The time is ripe for a big change in Canada. Maybe andy and me can start our own party?
We could have Lemmy in Finance, we'll get you and Shep in Policy, Gunny and Bart in Defence, DD in Immigration, Brenda on Wimmins Issues, ASL for the gun thing, Hurley and Boots in the Dept of Common Sense and we have plenty of people for other portfolios.
I think we would be good to go...!
with you as King of Quebec and Andy as the Sheriff of Vancouver of course...
Have whatever you wish, but I'm keeping My Island!
Gunnair @ Tue Oct 26, 2010 4:16 pm
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Oh, and I humbly accept my appointment as Ministerof Defence. 
You get the Black Ops portfolio Mr-too-fast-on-the-draw-and-still-a-longhaired-unwashed-Yankee!
Gunnair @ Tue Oct 26, 2010 4:19 pm
EyeBrock EyeBrock:
Now now Gunny! The bad lefties deserved it!
Correct. Hence...
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