Triple price of gas to save planet, climate expert argues
start investing in hydrogen and electric hybids or more biodiesel...mind you then the africans starve because there is no free grain left over.
PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:
saturn_656 saturn_656:
Imagine having to respond to those MVAs.

Minor fender bender at Yonge and Bloor today, 250,000 people killed

For 250,000 dead in Toronto....
bring it on !!!
any place there was a large Chinese, greek, Italian, or Indian population(or a Tim Horton's Drive thru for that matter) it'd be a nuclear wasteland for untold millenia.
You can't target one group of people without hitting others that rely on them as well, if you target personal use the people that rely on trucks to go hunting/trapping get nailed as well. The only real option is to give the consumer more options in small trucks.
Robair @ Fri Jun 10, 2011 8:55 am
Purchased a 1999 pontiac firefly two months ago. 3 cylinders, 1,000cc made by Suzuki.
It's easier on the pride to think of it as a really comfy bike instead of a really uncomfortable car.
Getting around 5L/100km driving everywhere at 105 - 110 km/h.
With my current commute, it saves me 400+ bucks a month in gasoline vs my f-150 4x4. Will pay for itself in seven months.
Next I'm trading in my wife's minivan and my truck for a Nissan Xterra and a utility trailer. Get us back down to two vehicles total.
I've always said it will take high gas prices to push for real innovation in automobiles. I'm kind of looking forward to that part of it.
Lemmy @ Fri Jun 10, 2011 9:00 am
I know this is fantasy-land in 2011, but how about banning cars in cities? People who live in rural areas, of course, need vehicles, but for the majority of people who live in cities, cars are really unnecessary. Cities would be much safer and better places to live if the automobiles were completely removed.
DanSC @ Fri Jun 10, 2011 9:05 am
Lemmy Lemmy:
I know this is fantasy-land in 2011, but how about banning cars in cities? People who live in rural areas, of course, need vehicles, but for the majority of people who live in cities, cars are really unnecessary. Cities would be much safer and better places to live if the automobiles were completely removed.
Cool story bro, but how do you deliver the mail? Food to grocery stores? Supplies to hospitals? The only city that has successfully kept out cars is Venice, Italy, and only because everyone can drive a fossil fuel-burning boat.
Taseko @ Fri Jun 10, 2011 9:07 am
Lemmy Lemmy:
I know this is fantasy-land in 2011, but how about banning cars in cities? People who live in rural areas, of course, need vehicles, but for the majority of people who live in cities, cars are really unnecessary. Cities would be much safer and better places to live if the automobiles were completely removed.
A good idea! This is actually planned for the EU in 2050.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/new ... -2050.htmlIt may be a little tricky to invoke such a policy in some place like Calagry which covers a fairly large piece of real estate.
jeff744 jeff744:
Better option: invest in miniature nuclear reactors we can use to replace our car engines.
Not a new idea.

And, of course...

Seriously, it's bad enough that every time a hybrid or electric car has a serious accident that the accident site is instantly a toxic waste problem. I can't imagine people commuting with nuclear reactors in their cars.
andyt @ Fri Jun 10, 2011 9:20 am
Obviously an overnight tripling would be disastrous. But using taxes to steadily increase the price would be a good idea, as has been done on a small scale here in BC. Especially the US needs to go in this direction, and we could do way more in Canada too.
As for it harming poor people, well pay them more so they won't be poor, then they can afford the cost of gas. And use the money collected to build high quality transit, so cars become unnecessary for many people.
andyt andyt:
Especially the US needs to go in this direction
You
first.
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I think your idea of tripling the price of petrol in Canada would be an awesome way to improve the economies of scores of communities on the US border. The number of Canadians coming over to buy petrol every day would be staggering!
It's a great idea and I can't wait to see you do it.
Taseko @ Fri Jun 10, 2011 9:25 am
Then there is China, India and many "emerging" nations that will likely increase their usage as our usage declines.
I wonder how that would work out?
andyt @ Fri Jun 10, 2011 9:27 am
Taseko Taseko:
Then there is China, India and many "emerging" nations that will likely increase their usage as our usage declines.
I wonder how that would work out?
It's going to keep raising the price of oil no matter what we do here.
Taseko Taseko:
Then there is China, India and many "emerging" nations that will likely increase their usage as our usage declines.
I wonder how that would work out?
No need to wonder. China has already eclipsed the US in carbon output and India, Russia, and Brazil are not far behind.
So what happens is while we're devolving our industrial base the rest of the world is building theirs and any savings we might make in carbon output is instantly negated by countries that are smart enough not to pay attention to global warming weenies.
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
andyt andyt:
Especially the US needs to go in this direction
You
first.
![Drink up [B-o]](./images/smilies/drinkup.gif)
I think your idea of tripling the price of petrol in Canada would be an awesome way to improve the economies of scores of communities on the US border. The number of Canadians coming over to buy petrol every day would be staggering!
It's a great idea and I can't wait to see you do it.

No doubt. The number of people that used to cross the border for gas when our dollar was only worth 75 cents US was staggering. Tripling gas prices in Canada without the US doing the same while our dollars are relatively even, would just encourage that behaviour again. Even more so with a stronger Canadian dollar.