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Gee, Obomba may have a hard time with a comeback for that - the truth hurts. I am sure tho that he will come out with a way of declaring that sort of ad hate speech and while he's at it maybe he can sentence the ppl who produced it to the death penalty, that'll learn em. Personally, I'm still waiting for him to produce a live certificate of birth for himself so we can find out if Barry Sotero (aka obomba) is a u.s. citizen. Not that it matters, the u.s. constitution is outdated.

   

are these same pro-lifers that create the ad against contraception?

   

Which cannibals would those be?

   

Kuru

Aside from the obvious cultural taboos and general ickiness of it there is indeed a biological reason not to eat our fellow humans.

   

Jeffery Dahmer for one. If I'm not mistaken, it's only if certain parts are eaten, such as the brain.

Wow, I really have to stop thinking about this... I just ate...

   

Anybody we know?

   

I'm mostly talking about hard line jail terms if you impregnate a woman and then run off without giving any child support or support of any kind. It should be illegal to "knock up" a woman and then take off. I don't disagree these men will likely be bad fathers but in general men that take on this kind of behavior tend to be bad people in general.

   

When they do abortions, the egg is not alive. Meaning once a abortion is done there isn't a life to be killed because the process hasn't happened yet. Nobody does abortions after a certon time limit.

Majority of kids who grow up in a shitty place usually carry that with them. Kids who have to endure stress, depression and shitty lives at a early stage CAN become the first black president yes but that doesn't mean every single one of them is happy. Majority of kids who enter that world don't come out of it.

Kids who get molested generally become molesters themselves when there older. Kids who are depressed develope anger issues and become school bullies and thugs and gangsters. People who grow up in a poor neighbourhood where they cannot even afford school have to steal to make a living.

I mean the list can go on and on. The lucky ones are usually those who find activities to occupy themselves like hockey.

I am not saying that abortion should be used in every scenario but what's the point in giving life if that life is just going to end up in a misserable life and fucked up? If a teenager or other parent doesn't want to keep there kid or can't afford to. If abortion was illegal the only other option would be to have it and put it up for adoption where he or she will be miss-handled, beat up, molested, etc.

The only good adoption places really are the catholic or christian ones. The majority of the rest are underfunded and pretty much take anybody as staff.
Kids at those places really suffer.

Abortion is a choice. If the child is not even considered life yet than there is no rights to life because what isn't alive isn't life. In that time period it's up to the situation of the parents if that kid should be aborted or not.

   

The child is a unique genetic life form from the moment of it's conception and having sex with someone means that you are consenting to the possibility however low or high of having a child with that person. It's why I am extremely anti-one night stand. You just never know when a condom will fail or if that girl really has been taking her pill properly on time every day.

All in all we need to stop trying to label every single unborn baby that's aborted as some sort of "poverty destined failure" and start realizing that ANY of us here could have been aborted. We don't even know the child's gender in some cases and we think we have any right to say that "this child's life will be shit". We need to shut up and realize these babies are just like you me and any guy down the block.

edit: for some odd reason the forum is glitching and putting extra HTML quote tags in the post that I can't erase forgive the format.

   

They don't. The vast majority of pro-choicers argue on just that basis, choice. I've not met one pro-choicer who has argued that poor people should get more abortions as its more likely their children will suffer needlessly.

The key issue is choice and having sex is simply not both parties signing an agreement over pregnancy. Sex for some 99.9% of the time is done for recreation and not procreation. Of course that doesn't cover rape at all but rape case abortions are a small minority of abortions.

   

You can have sex for pleasure all you like but you can NEVER escape the reality that if you have sex with someone they could become pregnant. People need to take responsibility for that. Abortion is an easy way out and the victim will never have to say a word.

People NEED to start taking responsibility for their actions. That and our society needs to stop putting sex in the glory without cost light.

   

Women do accept the responsibility. Its their body and their responsibility just as it is their choice.

Should they decide not to carry a fetus to term then they can get an abortion.

They understand responsibility because they undergo the procedure.

You seem to have little sympathy for even those who take precautions only to have them fail.

Quite frankly you are sounding extremely Victorian in your view on sex.

   

   

"You seem to have little sympathy for even those who take precautions only to have them fail.

Quite frankly you are sounding extremely Victorian in your view on sex."

I would be far more sympathetic if id didn't result in the murder of an innocent person. Men need to start being held accountable for what they do as well. It's wrong to shove all the responsibility on the women out there.

But I repeat that people need to realize that if you have sex with someone you better be fully open to the possibility of having a child with that person. It could happen and it's a huge life changing event.

   

Its not a person until it can exist outside of the womb. Men do need to take responsibility and quite frankly most do. The dead beat dad scenario is far from accurate. Many fathers do indeed try their best to step up to the plate only to see courts award unfair judgements against them allowing the women to sit at home while he works 16 hour shifts providing for her as he lives in a shanty bachelor pad.

What about the women who get pregnant on purpose?

Lot of what abouts.

Only one truly matters. As long as its a womens body she remains the sole decision maker for that body and if she doesn't want to spend 9 months of her life giving birth in an act that can actually lower her own life expectancy or kill her outright (women still die in childbirth) then nobody on earth deserves the right to force her.

Her body, her choice. No other belief can be supported.

   

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