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Got this from my brother in law, as a forward. I was wondering if anyone else has had this circulated to them. Do you or don't you agree with it?

   

I see the reason, I see the problem, but I don't think it is a solution.

The urine test in the rigs, is for safety of your co-workers, not for the safety of any other person. So a urine test for welfare recipients would be a privacy matter... Don't think it will happen. Ever.

Everybody is allowed to do with their money what they want. (and that is what it is, once given to them ) If they want to smoke dope from it, they can. If you want to avoid that, don't give anybody welfare.

   

I agree with what you wrote except for one part. Technically they are not allowed to smoke dope it's illegal, they just do it anyway. I pay taxes and I don't have to pass a drug test, but I do have to take a hearing test. Maybe they should make everyone collecting welfare take a hearing test.

   

Of course it is illegal, but you have to get caught first

   

Which means they are "not" allowed to.

   

Well, technically, you are not allowed to drive 200 km per hour, still a lot of cars can do it, and that makes a lot of people drive too fast.

People can "do" with their money what they want, even a welfare recipient has to pay the fine that comes with getting caught driving too fast.

You can buy dope with your well earned money, welfare recipients can do the same with their "sat-on-their-ass-smoking-dope-and-drinking-beer"-received money. You are just as "not allowed to smoke dope" as they are.

   

I agree that they should be drug tested but I know it'll never happen.. I agree 100% that my taxes should not be used to help someone to sit on their ass and raise babies they can't afford to have and get stoned..

now if you're not able to work for a specific reason then you should be on disability, not wlefare..

there are jobs everywhere here in town for people who want to work... hell Mc Donalds pays more hourly to their full time employees then my store does...

Here in Gander you see the welfare system abused a lot and it turns my stomach. I work my ass off... usually between 50 and 60 hours a week and because I'm a single girl who was frigging smart enough to use birth control I'm struggling to make ends meet. yet some girl who started popping out babies at 14 is at home doing NOTHING is getting my tax money??

whats wrong with this picture??

but we all know it'll never happed cause some human rights bullshit will come up and say its an infringement of their rights or some crap..

   

The basis of the objection to this is an invasion of privacy.

BOO HOO

A lot of us have to piss in a bottle. With the US zero tolerance for alcohol in professional drivers, that means I have to totally abstain.

Safety is not the only reason to pursue this. There is a certain stigma to collecting welfare and a lot of resentment to those who abuse the system. The pee in a bottle thing would silence a lot of resentment. It would predictably force a bunch off welfare or clean up.

Years back the city of New York, gave bonus to single moms for each month they were not pregnant and the birth rate of this faction dropped signifigantly. It was a carrot not a stick so the handwringers had their thunder stolen. This worked.

The same policy with welfare would work. A bonus for a clean test rather than a penalty for a failure.

   

What you could do, is don't give welfare anyway. Like Newfette says, when people are not able to work, there is disability. Is there anyother reason to not work for your money?

This is a whole different discussion, however.

   

but why are people on welfare in the first place??? I would understand if there were NO jobs but this isn't the case. people are just to fucking lazy to get off their asses when they are used to getting something for nothing

   

I fondly recall that merely the prospect/possibility of "WORK-FARE" inspired my X to get a job.

   

i could never NOT work..


even if i won the lottery I would either go to school and get trained to do something I truly loved or do volunteer work..

I couldn't sit at home and do nothing. I just wasn't raised that way

   

newfette Posted:

Yeah I know. Gotta take a tour to town and collect a cheque for a truck I scrapped yesterday. Pulled it out of a bushlot. A bit of torch work and presto-----cash.

   

Should the welfare people get a heads up for when their going to be tested ? As this rig worker most likely gets 6 weeks notice before he's going to be tested.

   

no they shouldn't


I believe all drug testing should be random

three days notice max

   

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