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Is Canada the world's next superpower?

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andyt @ Thu Mar 08, 2012 2:35 pm

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:
The next world superpower won't a miltitay power but an economic one. The worlds changed from the days of whose got the biggest dick militarily speaking to who's got the biggest dick financially.

Our problem is, smaller population, larger size of country and a what appears to be lack of will by all our governments to be keep what's ours by enacting laws that protect our resources and riches from the pillfering fingers other countries.


I still think the two go together - it hasn't changed. Look at China ramping up its military as it gets richer. The military might not be used for outright invasion and conquest anymore, but for pushing your weight around and defending what you've got. The US has been an example of that, and as it's wealth declines there are fears of its declining military power.

   



Ruxpercnd @ Thu Mar 08, 2012 2:41 pm

I thought Canadian beer was brewed in Mexico... but according to wiki, 90% of Canada's beer is brewed in Canada! But, not Canadian owned. What your really getting is American beer brewed in Canada. Canada really should be stronger in the beer category. Superpower awaits you.

$1:
Canada's largest brewing companies were traditionally Labatt's and Molson. Labatt's was purchased in 1995 by the Belgian company Interbrew (now part of Brazilian-Belgian Anheuser-Busch InBev, the world's largest brewing company) and Molson merged with US company Coors in 2005 to create Molson Coors, now the world's fifth largest brewing company. With the purchase of Sleeman Breweries, the largest remaining Canadian brewer, in 2006 by the Japanese owned Sapporo Brewery, Canada’s beer production has been mainly under the control of foreign multinationals. By the end of 2006, nearly 90% of beer sales was of product brewed domestically under license from non-domestic corporations.[4] American beers brewed under license dominate much of the market. The market in Canada for domestic beer is dominated by Labatt, Molson and Sleeman, all foreign-owned companies. The largest Canadian-owned brewer, Moosehead Brewery, controls about 5.5% of the Canadian market.

   



Ruxpercnd @ Thu Mar 08, 2012 2:46 pm

I was just reading that Russia doesn't have enough eighteen year old men to man its military. Both Russia and Canada have very low fertility rates. Sooo.. let me add to the list:

- You have to be sexy, if you know what I mean.

   



Gunnair @ Thu Mar 08, 2012 5:53 pm

BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Gunnair Gunnair:
We had the Arrow


And managed to kill it without any help from the USA.


Yep. No man behind the curtain.

   



Gunnair @ Thu Mar 08, 2012 5:55 pm

Ruxpercnd Ruxpercnd:
I thought Canadian beer was brewed in Mexico... but according to wiki, 90% of Canada's beer is brewed in Canada! But, not Canadian owned. What your really getting is American beer brewed in Canada. Canada really should be stronger in the beer category. Superpower awaits you.


Are you serious here? Really?

You may want to brush up on the beer industry as well as the surge of microbreweries.

   



Freakinoldguy @ Thu Mar 08, 2012 9:38 pm

andyt andyt:
Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:
The next world superpower won't a miltitay power but an economic one. The worlds changed from the days of whose got the biggest dick militarily speaking to who's got the biggest dick financially.

Our problem is, smaller population, larger size of country and a what appears to be lack of will by all our governments to be keep what's ours by enacting laws that protect our resources and riches from the pillfering fingers other countries.


I still think the two go together - it hasn't changed. Look at China ramping up its military as it gets richer. The military might not be used for outright invasion and conquest anymore, but for pushing your weight around and defending what you've got. The US has been an example of that, and as it's wealth declines there are fears of its declining military power.



Not really. The military as an extension of diplomacy isn't what it used to be, now it's sanctions and embargoes that Goverments seem to use more.

Take a look at Iran, had this shit happened forty years ago Terhan would already be an American forward staging area.

The only reason you keep a strong military now is to protect your financial well being, ie, resources or, for the usual regional bullying (see China).

But, if large military's showed how rich and much of a super power a county was, North Korea and not Disneyland would be the "HAPPIEST PLACE ON EARTH". [eat]

   



rickc @ Thu Mar 08, 2012 10:14 pm

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:
andyt andyt:
Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:
The next world superpower won't a miltitay power but an economic one. The worlds changed from the days of whose got the biggest dick militarily speaking to who's got the biggest dick financially.

Our problem is, smaller population, larger size of country and a what appears to be lack of will by all our governments to be keep what's ours by enacting laws that protect our resources and riches from the pillfering fingers other countries.


I still think the two go together - it hasn't changed. Look at China ramping up its military as it gets richer. The military might not be used for outright invasion and conquest anymore, but for pushing your weight around and defending what you've got. The US has been an example of that, and as it's wealth declines there are fears of its declining military power.



Not really. The military as an extension of diplomacy isn't what it used to be, now it's sanctions and embargoes that Goverments seem to use more.

Take a look at Iran, had this shit happened forty years ago Terhan would already be an American forward staging area.

The only reason you keep a strong military now is to protect your financial well being, ie, resources or, for the usual regional bullying (see China).

But, if large military's showed how rich and much of a super power a county was, North Korea and not Disneyland would be the "HAPPIEST PLACE ON EARTH". [eat]

I enjoy 99% of your posts, but have to disagree with this one. It was only in 1979 [no even 40 years ago] that the Iranians were holding 52 Americans hostage. We did not turn Terhan into an American forward staging area. Kuwait is a very wealthy country. That vast wealth did not prevent their country from being overun in a matter of hours. Extreme wealth without the means to defend only makes you a bigger target. The Soviet Union was a superpower based on the size of their military,and land ownership. Their currency was considered worthless beyond their borders. As Andy has said, both would be nice.

   



Caelon @ Thu Mar 08, 2012 10:16 pm

Ruxpercnd Ruxpercnd:

$1:
Canada's largest brewing companies were traditionally Labatt's and Molson.

Only the people who do not know the taste of real beer drink that crap (think 16 to 23 year olds). Any real beer drinkers enjoy full flavoured beer from a number of regional breweries across Canada. As Gunnair has pointed out BC by itself lays claim to quite a few options.

   



rickc @ Thu Mar 08, 2012 10:45 pm

Caelon Caelon:
Ruxpercnd Ruxpercnd:

$1:
Canada's largest brewing companies were traditionally Labatt's and Molson.

Only the people who do not know the taste of real beer drink that crap (think 16 to 23 year olds). Any real beer drinkers enjoy full flavoured beer from a number of regional breweries across Canada. As Gunnair has pointed out BC by itself lays claim to quite a few options.

Well said! I remember a not too distant past when beer drinkers were looked down upon by our wine and martini drinking brothers. The micro brew industry has changed all that. I make it a habit to sample the regional beers of every area that I visit. The only drawback is that many of those beers are hard to come by back in your native land. I would like to see the net work to lower those barriers and allow me to purchase regional beers for my personal consumption.

   



Ruxpercnd @ Thu Mar 08, 2012 11:11 pm

If you visit Washington/Oregon then you need to ask for Deschutes brewery Black Butte Porter. It really is the best. Glad to hear that Canada is making a beer comeback. [B-o]

$1:
With a dark beer as our first and flagship brand, Black Butte defined Deschutes as a radical player. A slight hop bitterness up front enhances the distinctive chocolate and roasted finish. It’s prized for its creamy mouthfeel and intense complex flavors.

Malt: Pale, Carapils, Chocolate, Crystal, Wheat
Hops: Cascade, Bravo, Tettnang

The Critics Speak

Bronze Medal, Brown Porter
2009 Great American Beer Festival

Best Porter
2007 Readers' Choice Awards, Northwest Brewing News

Gold Medal, Porter Category
2007 Australian International Beer Awards

Silver Medal, Porter Category
2006 Australian International Beer Awards

Silver Medal (88 - Highly Recommended)
2005 World Beer Championships

   



PublicAnimalNo9 @ Fri Mar 09, 2012 1:47 am

Ruxpercnd Ruxpercnd:
If you visit Washington/Oregon then you need to ask for Deschutes brewery Black Butte Porter. It really is the best. Glad to hear that Canada is making a beer comeback. [B-o]

$1:
With a dark beer as our first and flagship brand, Black Butte defined Deschutes as a radical player. A slight hop bitterness up front enhances the distinctive chocolate and roasted finish. It’s prized for its creamy mouthfeel and intense complex flavors.

Malt: Pale, Carapils, Chocolate, Crystal, Wheat
Hops: Cascade, Bravo, Tettnang

The Critics Speak

Bronze Medal, Brown Porter
2009 Great American Beer Festival

Best Porter
2007 Readers' Choice Awards, Northwest Brewing News

Gold Medal, Porter Category
2007 Australian International Beer Awards

Silver Medal, Porter Category
2006 Australian International Beer Awards

Silver Medal (88 - Highly Recommended)
2005 World Beer Championships

Canada isn't making a come-back. There was never anything to come back from. We merely sold off the swill brewers to the Yanks and kept the premium stuff here :wink:

   



Freakinoldguy @ Fri Mar 09, 2012 2:11 am

rickc rickc:
I enjoy 99% of your posts, but have to disagree with this one. It was only in 1979 [no even 40 years ago] that the Iranians were holding 52 Americans hostage. We did not turn Terhan into an American forward staging area. Kuwait is a very wealthy country. That vast wealth did not prevent their country from being overun in a matter of hours. Extreme wealth without the means to defend only makes you a bigger target. The Soviet Union was a superpower based on the size of their military,and land ownership. Their currency was considered worthless beyond their borders. As Andy has said, both would be nice.


Had this been in the Johnson Administration and not the Carter Administration, the American reaction would have been totally different to the hostage situation.

But. since we're talking what makes a superpowers you're right about Kuwait being rich, but it wasn't a superpower despite it's wealth. The only reason countries seem to keep a strong military now is to protect their finances and resources or regional bullying, which, Kuwait didn't do but Saddam did.

The odd thing about Kuwait was that despite not being a superpower they were rich enough to have a real superpower come to their aid. Had Saddam attacked Yemen do you think the US would have shown up to free them. :lol:

But you guys are likely right, a country probably should have both to be on the safe side, especially since the economies are going down the toilet and it's gonna be resources that are the real power.

   



Gunnair @ Fri Mar 09, 2012 7:08 am

Ruxpercnd Ruxpercnd:
If you visit Washington/Oregon then you need to ask for Deschutes brewery Black Butte Porter. It really is the best. Glad to hear that Canada is making a beer comeback. [B-o]

$1:
With a dark beer as our first and flagship brand, Black Butte defined Deschutes as a radical player. A slight hop bitterness up front enhances the distinctive chocolate and roasted finish. It’s prized for its creamy mouthfeel and intense complex flavors.

Malt: Pale, Carapils, Chocolate, Crystal, Wheat
Hops: Cascade, Bravo, Tettnang

The Critics Speak

Bronze Medal, Brown Porter
2009 Great American Beer Festival

Best Porter
2007 Readers' Choice Awards, Northwest Brewing News

Gold Medal, Porter Category
2007 Australian International Beer Awards

Silver Medal, Porter Category
2006 Australian International Beer Awards

Silver Medal (88 - Highly Recommended)
2005 World Beer Championships


Wow.... the ignorance and arrogance that is starting to leak into this.

Two things in this world has the potential to trigger a rain of f-bombs from the Canuckanach. The passive aggressive dissing of hockey and patronizing posts about our beer.

Keep at it and find a bunker.

   



ShepherdsDog @ Fri Mar 09, 2012 7:15 am

$1:
Wow.... the ignorance and arrogance that is starting to leak into this.


Is that dumber than dog shit dope Eureka involved in the thread?

   



BartSimpson @ Fri Mar 09, 2012 9:44 am

Caelon Caelon:
Only the people who do not know the taste of real beer drink that crap (think 16 to 23 year olds). Any real beer drinkers enjoy full flavoured beer from a number of regional breweries across Canada. As Gunnair has pointed out BC by itself lays claim to quite a few options.


Vancouver Island Brewery's Scottish Cream Ale is my favorite and on those times I drive up there I always drive back with at least four cases of this in the car. [B-o]

   



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