Is Canada the world's next superpower?
raydan @ Sat Mar 10, 2012 2:36 pm
The latest I bought... 750 ml of pure pleasure at 10% alcohol. When they entered this vintage in the World Beer Awards in England, it won the highly coveted Best Dark Ale, and was widely proclaimed “The Best Beer in the World”. Good now, but even better if I put it away and open it in 5 years. ![[drool]](./images/smilies/droolies.GIF "Drool")
PimpBrewski123 @ Sat Mar 10, 2012 8:02 pm
That is a good beer for sure.
Also, there are several smaller microbreweries that are not as well known, but have excellent beers.
GreenTiger @ Sat Mar 10, 2012 10:50 pm
Ruxpercnd Ruxpercnd:
There is discussion about this story on another forum thread,
filibuster-cartoons-f72/canada-s-latest-conquest-t100068.html
But this is a different slant. That is contemplating Canada as a superpower. Please see:
http://outfront.blogs.cnn.com/2012/03/0 ... hpt=hp_mid
In years past, a superpower nation would have been a colonial power. That's Gone.
Then a superpower is a country with nukes. Can't use them. Stupid to threaten or intimidate with them. Otherwise North Korea would be a superpower.
That leaves economic power. Canada fits this bill and in this regard Canada is a power. I remember when we thought that Brazil might become a superpower, but that didn't happen. And distinctions get blurred as we are now all so inter-dependent.
I love and respect Canada. However, I would be more impressed superpower-wise if Canada:
- Had at least two super aircraft carriers.
- Had nukes.
- Single handily took out some dictator somewhere.
- Brewed more of it's own beer.
- Brewed better beer.
- Could solve problems in the Middle East.
- Sponsored a joint strike fighter that the U.S. could purchase.
- Had a real bad-ass prime minister that inspired fear and pissed off people around the world.
- Hosted the United Nations.
- Was on American network news every night.
- Put up a space station with a big maple leaf on it.
- Had spies all over the world.
I am sure there is more... take the United Nations please. I would bow to the North.
filibuster-cartoons-f72/canada-s-latest-conquest-t100068.html
But this is a different slant. That is contemplating Canada as a superpower. Please see:
http://outfront.blogs.cnn.com/2012/03/0 ... hpt=hp_mid
In years past, a superpower nation would have been a colonial power. That's Gone.
Then a superpower is a country with nukes. Can't use them. Stupid to threaten or intimidate with them. Otherwise North Korea would be a superpower.
That leaves economic power. Canada fits this bill and in this regard Canada is a power. I remember when we thought that Brazil might become a superpower, but that didn't happen. And distinctions get blurred as we are now all so inter-dependent.
I love and respect Canada. However, I would be more impressed superpower-wise if Canada:
- Had at least two super aircraft carriers.
- Had nukes.
- Single handily took out some dictator somewhere.
- Brewed more of it's own beer.
- Brewed better beer.
- Could solve problems in the Middle East.
- Sponsored a joint strike fighter that the U.S. could purchase.
- Had a real bad-ass prime minister that inspired fear and pissed off people around the world.
- Hosted the United Nations.
- Was on American network news every night.
- Put up a space station with a big maple leaf on it.
- Had spies all over the world.
I am sure there is more... take the United Nations please. I would bow to the North.
I would add at least two submarines that work to the list.
PostFactum @ Sun Mar 11, 2012 3:52 am
After global warming, maybe.
Caelon @ Sun Mar 11, 2012 5:31 am
GreenTiger GreenTiger:
I would add at least two submarines that work to the list.
Done! We got 3 in the West Edmonton Mall.
Gunnair @ Sun Mar 11, 2012 6:35 am
Caelon Caelon:
GreenTiger GreenTiger:
I would add at least two submarines that work to the list.
Done! We got 3 in the West Edmonton Mall.
And the run!
bootlegga @ Mon Mar 12, 2012 10:06 am
Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:
The next world superpower won't a miltitay power but an economic one. The worlds changed from the days of whose got the biggest dick militarily speaking to who's got the biggest dick financially.
Military power has always gone hand-in-hand with economic power when considering spuerpower status. Early empires like Rome through to the Brits and now the Americans have always had both.
Without a strong economy, your nation can only support a world class military for a generation or two (USSR), while strong economies without strong militaries (Japan) lack the ability to influence world events in their favour, which inevitably leads to them weakening over time as well.
FurTrader4 @ Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:04 am
raydan raydan:
The latest I bought... 750 ml of pure pleasure at 10% alcohol. When they entered this vintage in the World Beer Awards in England, it won the highly coveted Best Dark Ale, and was widely proclaimed “The Best Beer in the World”. Good now, but even better if I put it away and open it in 5 years.
I've tried a couple of beers from Unibroue: Maudite & La Fin Du Monde I picked them up at the LCBO in Thunder Bay.
I'm going to have to ask them if they will bring in some more beers from Quebec they really are world class.
![[B-o]](./images/smilies/drinkup.gif "Drink up")
BartSimpson @ Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:33 pm
bootlegga bootlegga:
Military power has always gone hand-in-hand with economic power when considering spuerpower status. Early empires like Rome through to the Brits and now the Americans have always had both.
Without a strong economy, your nation can only support a world class military for a generation or two (USSR), while strong economies without strong militaries (Japan) lack the ability to influence world events in their favour, which inevitably leads to them weakening over time as well.
Without a strong economy, your nation can only support a world class military for a generation or two (USSR), while strong economies without strong militaries (Japan) lack the ability to influence world events in their favour, which inevitably leads to them weakening over time as well.
Right now it's pretty fair to say that Japan has the most powerful navy in the Pacific and it's also fair to say that their air force is dominant in the Western Pacific. The Chinese stopped sending subs through the Bungo Channel when Japan not only complained about it but gave the Chinese a track for each of their subs from their home port to the channel.
In a Japan vs. China match up right now I'd say Japan would win.
In a Japan vs. the US match right now I'd still favor Japan.
They don't put on a big show, but they've plenty of capability.
Ruxpercnd @ Mon Mar 12, 2012 2:19 pm
Japan? 
Would they take the united nations? Fix the middle east?
sukhoi @ Tue May 15, 2012 11:01 pm
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
bootlegga bootlegga:
Military power has always gone hand-in-hand with economic power when considering spuerpower status. Early empires like Rome through to the Brits and now the Americans have always had both.
Without a strong economy, your nation can only support a world class military for a generation or two (USSR), while strong economies without strong militaries (Japan) lack the ability to influence world events in their favour, which inevitably leads to them weakening over time as well.
Without a strong economy, your nation can only support a world class military for a generation or two (USSR), while strong economies without strong militaries (Japan) lack the ability to influence world events in their favour, which inevitably leads to them weakening over time as well.
Right now it's pretty fair to say that Japan has the most powerful navy in the Pacific and it's also fair to say that their air force is dominant in the Western Pacific. The Chinese stopped sending subs through the Bungo Channel when Japan not only complained about it but gave the Chinese a track for each of their subs from their home port to the channel.
In a Japan vs. China match up right now I'd say Japan would win.
In a Japan vs. the US match right now I'd still favor Japan.
They don't put on a big show, but they've plenty of capability.
Not in a million years. The US Navy, by tonnage, is larger than the next 13 navies combined and operates nearly 4,000 aircraft. It has no present day match, but China hopes to change this within the next couple decades.