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GreatBriton @ Mon Nov 07, 2005 11:18 am

The French riots have now crossed the border into Belgium and Germany.


Rioting Spreads to Brussels and Germany

Berlin, Bremen and Brussels

Cars set afire in Berlin and Bremen

BERLIN/BREMEN, Germany, Nov. 7 UPI -- Youths set cars on fire overnight in Berlin and Bremen, causing officials to investigate links to the riots in neighboring France.

Five cars burned in Berlin's working class district Moabit on early Monday morning. No one was hurt, according to police reports.

Meanwhile, in the northern city of Bremen, three cars, a closed-off former school building and trash cans were set afire in the Huchting district, causing tens of thousands of dollars in damage. Huchting is a residential area and not considered a hot spot.

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PARIS
November 7, 2005

AP - A man who was beaten by an attacker while trying to extinguish a trash can fire during riots north of Paris has died of his injuries, becoming the first fatality since the urban unrest started 11 days ago, a police official said Monday. Youths overnight injured three dozen officers and burned more than 1,400 vehicles.

Apparent copycat attacks spread to other European cities for the first time, with five cars torched outside Brussels' main train station, police in the Belgian capital said.

   



-Mario- @ Mon Nov 07, 2005 11:24 am

To have that many, wide spead riots... make you wonder if Al-Qaida has its paw in it!!!!

   



Constantinople @ Mon Nov 07, 2005 11:42 am

Looks like the Muslims have succeeded in crossing the Pyrenees as well. Such a shame, Christendom.

   



BartSimpson @ Mon Nov 07, 2005 11:43 am

Thus starts another Muslim takeover attempt in Europe.

This is the European intifada.

Give it a little while and we'll see it start in the USA and then Canada.

   



Constantinople @ Mon Nov 07, 2005 11:45 am

BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Thus starts another Muslim takeover attempt in Europe.

This is the European intifada.

Give it a little while and we'll see it start in the USA and then Canada.


Such a beautiful thing was the early 20th Century's will. I hope it has been rekindled in Western youth for the early parts of the 21st.

   



BartSimpson @ Mon Nov 07, 2005 12:04 pm

Constantinople Constantinople:
Such a beautiful thing was the early 20th Century's will. I hope it has been rekindled in Western youth for the early parts of the 21st.


If the people on this site in their early twenties and such are of an example then I fear the battle will be difficult.

Mostly because we can count on certain of them to be on the side of the anti-Westerners.

I'm afraid we'll have a bloody war in our own homes just battling the misguided liberals who are so filled with hate for our civilization that they'd enable and fight for the enemy.

   



DerbyX @ Mon Nov 07, 2005 12:26 pm

BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Constantinople Constantinople:
Such a beautiful thing was the early 20th Century's will. I hope it has been rekindled in Western youth for the early parts of the 21st.


If the people on this site in their early twenties and such are of an example then I fear the battle will be difficult.

Mostly because we can count on certain of them to be on the side of the anti-Westerners.

I'm afraid we'll have a bloody war in our own homes just battling the misguided liberals who are so filled with hate for our civilization that they'd enable and fight for the enemy.


:roll: Bollocks! Pure and simple bollocks.

   



Thematic-Device @ Mon Nov 07, 2005 12:30 pm

BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Constantinople Constantinople:
Such a beautiful thing was the early 20th Century's will. I hope it has been rekindled in Western youth for the early parts of the 21st.


If the people on this site in their early twenties and such are of an example then I fear the battle will be difficult.

Mostly because we can count on certain of them to be on the side of the anti-Westerners.

I'm afraid we'll have a bloody war in our own homes just battling the misguided liberals who are so filled with hate for our civilization that they'd enable and fight for the enemy.


Bart perhaps theres something you don't realize here, in the US we accept and integrate new cultures, and in turn they prescribe to the ideal of american exceptionalism. It is for that reason that the US does not have muslim terrorists. Terrorists don't thrive in open society, and they do not survive in a contented populace.

Ironically though, the same conservatives who worry about fighting terrorism so much, often advocate means which will destroy americas most valuable weapon against terrorism. Of all the muslims I have known in the states, each one considered themselves to be an american first and foremost. Yet nutjobs insist on trying to change that.

It's the liberals who are fighting to maintain the constitution and american democracy which is the only barrier from the conservatives getting their way and devolving this country into one where terrorism can breed. Terrorism by the state, by individuals, and by extremist groups.


Some of us don't want to see that, and want to see a rule of law, where no one is above it and everyone is judged equally and fairly. Where the government is kept under constant supervision and is never given a carte blanche. Some of us actually respect the constitution as a document which must be followed always not just when its convenient for the government to do so. Some of us know what Americanism is, and will fight to defend it.

   



BartSimpson @ Mon Nov 07, 2005 12:50 pm

DerbyX DerbyX:
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Constantinople Constantinople:
Such a beautiful thing was the early 20th Century's will. I hope it has been rekindled in Western youth for the early parts of the 21st.


If the people on this site in their early twenties and such are of an example then I fear the battle will be difficult.

Mostly because we can count on certain of them to be on the side of the anti-Westerners.

I'm afraid we'll have a bloody war in our own homes just battling the misguided liberals who are so filled with hate for our civilization that they'd enable and fight for the enemy.


:roll: Bollocks! Pure and simple bollocks.


I wasn't talking about you. Frankly, I figure you for one of those folks who'll bitch and moan and whine when he gets drafted and then go out and distinguish yourself with honour once things get really nasty.

You may fool everyone else, but I know in your heart you're a really decent person. 8)

   



BartSimpson @ Mon Nov 07, 2005 1:04 pm

Thematic-Device Thematic-Device:
Bart perhaps theres something you don't realize here, in the US we accept and integrate new cultures, and in turn they prescribe to the ideal of american exceptionalism. It is for that reason that the US does not have muslim terrorists.


Uhm, except for the terrorists in Lodi and down the street from my home (relatively speaking) at the Masjid Annur mosque that gave Al Qaeda US$1.5 million in August of 2001 just two weeks prior to 9/11.

Thematic-Device Thematic-Device:
Terrorists don't thrive in open society, and they do not survive in a contented populace.


Then explain 9/11? Why did rich, well-off Saudi boys kill themselves and 3,000 innocent people?

Thematic-Device Thematic-Device:
Ironically though, the same conservatives who worry about fighting terrorism so much, often advocate means which will destroy americas most valuable weapon against terrorism. Of all the muslims I have known in the states, each one considered themselves to be an american first and foremost. Yet nutjobs insist on trying to change that.


Ask this question of any Muslim and see if you get a straight answer:

Do you renounce Surah 8:36, "Make war on them until idolatry shall cease and God's religion shall reign supreme"? Yes or no?

Good luck with that, by the way.

Thematic-Device Thematic-Device:
It's the liberals who are fighting to maintain the constitution and american democracy which is the only barrier from the conservatives getting their way and devolving this country into one where terrorism can breed. Terrorism by the state, by individuals, and by extremist groups.


Real conservatives want less government and less control of our lives. You've been watching too much TV.

Thematic-Device Thematic-Device:
Some of us don't want to see that, and want to see a rule of law, where no one is above it and everyone is judged equally and fairly. Where the government is kept under constant supervision and is never given a carte blanche. Some of us actually respect the constitution as a document which must be followed always not just when its convenient for the government to do so.


So are you then a constructionist who believes the Constitution should be interpreted as it was written or do you ascribe to the liberal, "living document", school of thought where the Constitution "evolves" and means whatever a liberal court says it means?

Thematic-Device Thematic-Device:
Some of us know what Americanism is, and will fight to defend it.


Yes, and some of us also know what it is and we'll fight to defend it, as we have been by defeating liberal politicians and liberal politics at every turn.

   



DerbyX @ Mon Nov 07, 2005 1:45 pm

BartSimpson BartSimpson:
DerbyX DerbyX:
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Constantinople Constantinople:
Such a beautiful thing was the early 20th Century's will. I hope it has been rekindled in Western youth for the early parts of the 21st.


If the people on this site in their early twenties and such are of an example then I fear the battle will be difficult.

Mostly because we can count on certain of them to be on the side of the anti-Westerners.

I'm afraid we'll have a bloody war in our own homes just battling the misguided liberals who are so filled with hate for our civilization that they'd enable and fight for the enemy.


:roll: Bollocks! Pure and simple bollocks.


I wasn't talking about you. Frankly, I figure you for one of those folks who'll bitch and moan and whine when he gets drafted and then go out and distinguish yourself with honour once things get really nasty.

You may fool everyone else, but I know in your heart you're a really decent person. 8)


I wouldn't bitch about beind drafted assuming there is a credible threat to Canada and the UK,AUS,USA as well for that matter. I just don't see liberals hating our society. I don't know about france but I don't see that kind of response in Canada. We only do that shit when we win the Stanley cup (montreal) or lose it (Vancouver) or during an occasional blackout (T.O.). I think our population, as liberal as it is would not just sit back and allow muslims demanding their religion be given a commanding role. If they did then you might just hear about an irate driver barreling headlong into a bunch of muslim rioters, accidentily of course! :wink:

   



xerxes @ Mon Nov 07, 2005 1:47 pm

So liberalism is un-American is it? That you would deem a certain way of politcal thinking un-American, is un-American.
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So all these riots are one big massive Muslim assault on Christianity? What a load of shit!

I have not seen one news report quoting someone "I'm rioting because I hare Christians" or "I'm rioting because France or some other country isn'
t Muslim enough" (though I'm sure you'll find one). The riots in France are about people who have been living on the margins of society who have no real job prospects aside from McJobs and the like and who were shunted away into communities where they wouldn't need to integrate or be seen by French society.

I am so tired of this anti-Muslim bullshit. Oh no, French Muslims are rioting, that must mean they want to kill every Chrisitan! Or, Oh no, there's some lines in their holy book that say they have to kill every Christian, that means they will!

Religions have at times, been able to live side by side in societies. Back when the Moors controlled southern Spain, in the city of Cordoba, there were all together about 1000 Churches, Mosques, and Synagogues and there were rarely any problems. Problems arise when certain people with extreme views use religion as a front for their twisted ideology. Osama is like that, Jerry Fallwell is like, and so are a number of people throughout history.

   



DrCaleb @ Mon Nov 07, 2005 1:55 pm

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Thematic-Device Thematic-Device:
Terrorists don't thrive in open society, and they do not survive in a contented populace.


Then explain 9/11? Why did rich, well-off Saudi boys kill themselves and 3,000 innocent people?


Asked, and answered.

   



Scape @ Mon Nov 07, 2005 2:08 pm

France tries reserves, curfews to stem riots

Muslims issue fatwa against riots

   



DerbyX @ Mon Nov 07, 2005 3:17 pm

$1:
Ask this question of any Muslim and see if you get a straight answer:

Do you renounce Surah 8:36, "Make war on them until idolatry shall cease and God's religion shall reign supreme"? Yes or no?

Good luck with that, by the way.


I did, specifically and he said that kind of thinking belongs only in the past and not in modern times.

How about this:
$1:
Beat your children hard and often. Don't worry about hurting them. You may break a few bones and cause some brain damage, but it isn't going to kill them. And even if they do die, they'll be better off. They'll thank you in heaven for beating the hell out of them


from: Proverbs 23.
$1:
23:13 Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die.

23:14 Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell.


Many fundies still raise their children under this barbaric philosophy. Should I continue?

   



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